This week on After the Horn, Tom Green and Ron Zappolo are in the host chairs, with Natasha Vukonich joining as usual, for a loaded sports conversation presented by RedBird Farms Chicken. Tom and Ron start with the NBA Finals, where the Knicks’ 13-game winning streak comes to an end against Victor Wembanyama and the Spurs at Madison Square Garden — with a presidential courtside appearance adding even more noise to the night. They break down the physicality of the series, the Spurs’ response, Jalen Brunson, Karl-Anthony Towns, and whether Denver Nuggets fans should feel encouraged watching these Finals teams. Then the conversation shifts to the Avalanche, as Joe Sakic prepares to address the media and major offseason questions loom around Jared Bednar, Chris MacFarland’s departure, and where the Avs go from here. Tom and Ron also dig into the wild Stanley Cup Final, including Carolina’s stunning comeback and the unpredictability that makes playoff hockey so compelling. The crew also discusses the World Cup coming to the United States, the rising cost of sports tickets, FIFA, the growing divide between real fans and premium-event pricing, and how sports leagues risk turning live games into studio television. Later, they hit the Rockies’ ongoing struggles, what Colorado should do at the trade deadline, and why the franchise needs to think differently about player development and roster-building. The episode closes with a deep discussion on the Brendan Sorsby gambling controversy, the NCAA’s fading power, NIL money, college athletes and sports betting, plus the latest Broncos headlines — including Jonathan Cooper’s legal situation, Jaylen Waddle’s arrival, Marvin Mims’ role, Courtland Sutton, Bo Nix, and where Denver stacks up in the AFC. Presented by RedBird Farms Chicken. Chapter Markers / Timestamps 00:00 — Intro: Spurs stop the Knicks’ 13-game winning streak 00:35 — Tom and Ron open the show; Woody expected back next week 01:19 — Knicks-Spurs reaction, President Trump at Madison Square Garden 03:31 — Victor Wembanyama, Karl-Anthony Towns, and the Finals matchup 06:05 — NBA Finals physicality and what Game 4 could mean 07:52 — How the Nuggets match up with the Knicks and Spurs 10:06 — Nuggets roster questions, trades, salary cap and the second apron 12:39 — Avalanche offseason: Joe Sakic, Jared Bednar, Chris MacFarland 16:50 — Stanley Cup Final chaos and Carolina’s comeback 20:36 — RedBird Farms Chicken sponsor segment 22:32 — World Cup preview and ticket pricing frustration 25:28 — The rising cost of live sports and fans being priced out 29:04 — USA vs. Paraguay and World Cup favorites 30:28 — Golf, softball, college baseball and Colorado sports viewing 31:51 — Rockies struggles and trade deadline possibilities 37:24 — Brendan Sorsby gambling controversy and NCAA backlash 42:18 — NCAA power, NIL money, gambling and college athletes 44:08 — Jonathan Cooper legal situation and possible Broncos impact 46:49 — Broncos minicamp, Jaylen Waddle, Marvin Mims and wide receiver outlook 49:22 — Broncos AFC odds and where Denver stacks up nationally 51:59 — USA-Paraguay prediction and closing thoughts
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Hi there. So what does it take to stop a 13 game winning streak? Well, there's that alien in San Antonio. And having maybe most reviled New Yorker in history stopped by for a game at the garden. Also, we're going to take a look at Brendan Saws B's unique decision and the decisions surrounding him.
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Unknown
Hi, gang. Welcome to After the Horn, Tom green. We are still one man down. Woody is getting much, much better and we expect Woody to be here next week, which is great news when you say we're one man down, it makes me think we're on the peak. Got to kill another penalty this week. We have kind of been ice in the puck here.
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Why? Woody's been gone. Going to talk a lot about what's going on with the avalanche and the Stanley Cup in a minute. But last night at Madison Square Garden, the Knicks magic run came to an end at the hands of Victor Wembanyama and the Spurs. But I think so many people were so interested in what happened surrounding President Trump stopping by, he he stopped by.
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Unknown
All right. He changed. He changed the game. Yeah. He did the Nixon one with 13 in a row. Yeah. President shows up. You know I'm really enjoying the series because I think the games are close and the games are physical and they're letting them play. And last night I thought the Spurs kind of mentally got the Knicks number a little bit.
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Unknown
And I think a couple of ways, number one, I think the Knicks were kind of premature celebration a little ahead of them, a little ahead of themselves. They they forgot what it was like to lose. And people are in there. It was like a celebration of coronation. The Knicks are the greatest team ever, which I've seen on TV.
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Unknown
Yeah. You know, which is absurd. And I think they got ahead of themselves. The second thing that I think happened is the Knicks should have known that the Spurs were going to come out the way they came out, and I don't think they were ready for it. And the Spurs, to me, Tom did to Jalen Brunson. But the Knicks had successfully done to Wembanyama.
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Unknown
They were very physical, kind of got into his head, got him off his game and I think the Spurs had an extra day to think about this. And they thought about how they played SGA and kind of played Brunson the same way. And I thought the Knicks Mike Brown complained about the officiating. I didn't see it. I thought the fouls were close.
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Unknown
I think that they didn't lose because of the officiating. They lost because they turned it over to much. They definitely had some really sloppy turnovers from the Knicks throughout the series. But last night they really bit him. But also, I thought the Knicks tried to have a real cool professional vibe. And the Spurs were clawing and fighting and the Spurs won the beginning of both halves and that was the difference.
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Unknown
Fast start in the first. Knicks overcame it. Fast start in the second. Knicks couldn't overcome it. And the Knicks really got got handled by a really good Spurs team to find castles. Been outside branding and you know played great. He played the whole 94ft great. He was a great defender and he made some big shots as well. And a couple of big free throws to yeah.
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Unknown
So the the Knicks go down. Interesting to see how this series takes shape now because now New Yorkers who had already started to plan their parade now realize they're up against something special. I mean when was terrific again. Listen, it doesn't always work out this way, but I always think in any playoff series, the team that has the best player has an advantage.
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Unknown
Well, in game two, there was a much made of the first half of that game when Karl Anthony Towns took Wembanyama to the woodshed and Wembanyama had a better second half. But I think there's also when they looked at that tape, or when they even maybe even heard what the broadcast was saying about. I think Victor Wemba took it personally because he came out of the gate running, and he was he was in command of the game whenever he was on the floor, when Victor, when Magnum plays his best and when Karl-Anthony towns plays his best, it's no contest.
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Unknown
Yeah, well, Victor, when is the best player in the league? And if they both play to their Max Victor women is going to win more times than he loses. And I think that's what the Spurs have going for. I do and I think you know what? This is weird. I've seen this before in playoff series. I felt the Knicks played with more pressure last night on them than the Spurs did, even though the Spurs knew if we lose this game, it's a wrap.
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Unknown
It's a wrap. But I think sometimes when you're home in playoff series, I remember covering a lot of them and that sometimes when you think it's going to allow you to play more free and easy, you play, you play tighter. I know these rims, I know everything. Yeah, well, the home team zero for three now. Yeah. This this could go on to.
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Unknown
Yeah I the home the road team may end up probably winning more games in this series. And the home team I don't know the numbers offhand, but if if I was betting game four at this point, I would likely be favoring the Spurs. I would too. And I think the odds makers do, because last night the the Knicks came into the game up two to nothing, having won 13 games in a row, having kind of put their will on the Spurs in the first two games, and they were only favored by a point in the half.
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Unknown
Yeah, they should make sure it's still two and a half point favorites. Yeah, but the Spurs were 67. favorites in the first two games. So I think the odds makers who are smart, they look at the Spurs as they're also looking at the money like and the money and seeing more of the money. I think New York will be a heavy.
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Unknown
That two and a half points is mostly based on New York vibe money coming in as opposed to San Antonio. But it's two and a half today. Let's see what it will be by tomorrow night. Yeah, so interesting to see the I'm enjoying it. I think it's great. And I do just one opinion. I do like the physicality of the series because it's more of a throwback to when we were younger, when you'd see an NBA finals where, okay, we don't want to be blowing the whistle every two minutes, you know, keep it together.
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Unknown
We'll call it fair, you know? And I'm seeing more of that in this series now. I don't know how the whistle will be tomorrow night, but I think so far they've let them play, which I like. Physicality is a measure of intensity. And obviously it's the NBA finals. Intensity is there. They don't want to foul people out. Yeah they don't.
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Unknown
Well so both teams new last night if the Knicks won the series is over. And I think both teams also know now that with the Spurs win in game three, the rest of the series is a mystery, especially with the home team now over. Can't you see away now after watching that game last night that the Spurs win this series?
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Unknown
Definitely, yeah. Me too. I could also see the Knicks winning though I'm not. Both teams have a clear. I could see the Knicks winning the next two games. Yeah, I could also see them losing the next two. I have no feel for like I thought the Spurs would win last night, but I don't have a feel. I thought the Knicks would win game one.
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Unknown
I thought the Spurs would win game two right, but I did think the Spurs would win game three. I have no idea what to think in game four. No, no idea. Which makes it great. Yeah. No, it sets up for a brilliant series but obviously game for good for the NBA. Whenever you watch a playoff series, you always refer to each game as the pivotal game four and then the pivotal game as you watch this series.
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Unknown
Do you ever think about how the nuggets match up with these two teams? Yeah, well they do. They get to play the Spurs throughout the season and they played them well this year. They were very effective. Jokic was probably the most effective player against women in the league. Saw Karl Anthony Towns because of his history in Minnesota. I think to enjoy matching up with him as well.
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Unknown
So it's hard to say because you looked at a team like last night when the Knicks opened the fourth quarter and missed every three pointer. You know, the game was fundamentally decided by them going, I think it was, oh, for 9 or 10. But that's a great point. I mean, I'm looking at that game. Each team I think shot 3334 three pointers.
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Unknown
These really good teams like the Knicks and the Spurs, they don't have to shoot threes. And I think this year in the NBA, I saw it somewhere that the average amount of threes in every NBA game was over 40. Wow. That's a lot of threes. But that's when I think of the nuggets being able to compete or beat either of these teams.
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Unknown
Had they gotten to the Western finals or the NBA finals I think it's for the nuggets. Sometimes it comes down to how they shoot the threes. They're going to get that great line from Jokic. But there's his assist. Numbers are oftentimes dependent on other players. But I watch this series Tom and I I mean maybe I'm a homer I don't feel like the nuggets are that far away from these two.
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Unknown
Which is how everyone here felt after the Minnesota series. The nuggets can't play with anybody right now. They're terrible. They need to blow it up, start it over, trade everyone, fire everyone. And now a little bit down the road, you start going. Maybe it's just that Minnesota thing. Yeah. Like they I just I watch these three games and I go oh I could see the nuggets playing either one of these teams.
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Unknown
They're not that far away. Maybe maybe a couple of changes. But and again I think it's really interesting what the nuggets are going to do here in the next few weeks before the draft. Because usually the trades come right around the draft, the drafts a few weeks away, and I hope I don't know this, I hope the nuggets are talking to a lot of teams about a lot of different things.
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Unknown
It's funny because, you know, with the nuggets, a lot of the decision making is really about money more than talent. Ultimately, you've got to change or improve your talent, but it has to do with things that interest no one. The second apron and salary caps. But they're real. They do exist. And they they change what you can. Not only do they do that, Tom, I think the second apron has been a bad thing for the NBA.
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Unknown
I really do, because I think in the NBA people like dynasty. Do you actually understand the second apron? I hate to say this because I'm a retired guy. I could talk to you about the second apron, but in no way when I walk into somebody's office and explain to them the second apron. But I do know how the second apron works, and I know why it was enacted.
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Unknown
And I think it's wrong because I think the NBA is better when you have a Golden State team that wins and you everybody can measure themselves against a great team. I also think fans like to see teams that can stay together. And I think what the second apron does is it and I think the owners have done this to help themselves.
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Unknown
It says you can't keep a team together. Well, the bird rights thing was was a big change in the 80s. Yeah. But I mean when you've got a when you win a championship and you look at the second apron as an owner and say, well, I don't want to, was that about Durant? Because he was the guy who chose he wanted to go play with that.
00;11;37;08 - 00;11;58;00
Unknown
He wanted to go play for a ring. But I think it was just a way for the owners to save money. In other words, let's use the Celtics, for example. They won the NBA title wasn't that long ago, wasn't that long ago, but they did it by accruing a lot of talent. They got to a point. Their best player snaps his Achilles.
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Unknown
That gave the ownership the idea that, okay, here's the perfect way we can get we're not going to win it next year without our best player. So let's get under the second apron and let's get rid of some guys, some guys that they didn't want to get rid of. But for financial reasons, they went ahead and did it.
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Unknown
And I think we're going to see that with Oklahoma City right now. The Knicks are pretty well put together. Let's see when Stefan Castle and some of these other guys get a little older, the Spurs will be dealing with the same thing. It all comes in, the bill comes. Do you talk about the nuggets future. Let's turn to hockey and we'll get to the the Stanley Cup final in a second.
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Unknown
Pretty good final by the way. Well that's great. But let's talk about the Avs because Thursday now is the day that Joe Sakic is going to meet the media. And we don't know who will be with Joe. I think Jared Bednar appears safe, but he is not officially. He's also not extended. Do you think that there's a chance that Joe is going to come out in a couple of days?
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Unknown
I think Joe will either come out with Jared or without him without Jared, but I don't think if he comes without him doesn't mean that he's not the guy. But they're going to be okay. What would it mean to you if he comes out without him? Would you? What do you read into that could be anything. It's taken so long to have the press conference by now.
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Unknown
Jared may be down on the ranch, you know. Yeah, but although I do think at these end of the season deals. Yeah, the, the the manager or the coach should be there. So my I think they they're going to have to extend Jared Coach Bednar or move on. But I don't think I think they're going to have to make it.
00;13;38;01 - 00;13;54;28
Unknown
What do you think one way or the other. I think they're going to extend it I do too. But and I think that's how they they roll. But Thursday is going to be that's also the day we start to find out who had a torn thumb leg all this. Let me ask you something about Joe, cuz you're closer to this than I am.
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Unknown
And I love Joe, but I'm not around the team anymore and I don't talk to people. Is Joe as the head of the franchise as forthcoming as he was as a player? Because I love Joe. But you know, the next really compelling thing Joe ever said to me in an interview will probably be the first thing. Yeah. He was known as quote, quote, loss Joe.
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Unknown
And I think he enjoyed that. That was that was one of the I think he loved it. I think anytime you brought that up, a smile came to his face, you know. But I have a hunch, especially now with Chris McFarland's departure, which I don't think we know the whole story behind that, but it doesn't sound like it sounded like the abs really wanted him to stay and really made an effort to keep him, and eventually it went further than they were willing to go.
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Unknown
So how much did you really want to keep them then? Was that much? And is or was there daylight between Joe and Chris McFarland? As far as Jared Bednar, the roster, the future, the present in that with Chris leaving, I mean, Joe was kind of the only choice to go back into that role as an interim. And the question is, what is an interim length for for Joe Sakic as a GM?
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Unknown
Because every big decision went across his desk and now it's good. Everybody knows the buck stops with Joe, and if he wants to put both hands on it, good. I trust him. And if you and I think he should bring back Jared. But now I know there are some people that think that he's been there too long. And in hockey, eight, nine years is a and it is a long time.
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Unknown
I always go by the idea of don't fire somebody unless you know who you're bringing in. Yeah, you got to have is it an upgrade or not? If it's not, you know, I see what, what what, did Mike Babcock just go to Edmonton once? Yeah. Yeah. I mean there's you're, you're you're taking guys back from. And Mike Babcock got you think Joe Quintals got a bad history checkered.
00;15;51;00 - 00;16;10;24
Unknown
Yeah. So I mean there's not a lot of people out there that if you were to dismiss Jared Bednar and hire somebody. Improvements. Yes. What a great upgrade that is. Yeah I you know. No. And I think, you know, you you reflect on the season and I look at how it ended. And obviously Vegas played great. They're on a roll.
00;16;10;26 - 00;16;32;05
Unknown
They've got a unique I think level. They they're going to win the Cup. But the Avs also I don't think that Jared Bednar was what I didn't like out on the ice. I thought the players the best players all yeah, I mean I think I've thought about it a little bit about this. What could Jared Bednar have done differently that would have changed the outcome of the Vegas series?
00;16;32;06 - 00;16;50;21
Unknown
Yeah, I mean he tried everything, but it's a you know, it's an easier to push that button. And again, I'm not using this as an excuse. But when you lose Cale McCarthy for the first two games, that's a big loss. And then when your other best player gets hurt and a third game and really kind of wasn't the same.
00;16;50;23 - 00;17;28;25
Unknown
Those are tough things. And I know everybody's got injuries. I'm not in Vegas. Earned it too. And they just outplayed them. I mean sometimes you just have to say they were better than us. So what about this Stanley Cup final tonight? They'll be back at it. And we've seen was that not one of the bizarre game Stanley Cup final games you've ever seen that that game the four nothing to four four to double overtime I could see that happening I we haven't but I could have seen it happening if the team down for nothing was at home and came back and scored four goals to score four in a row on the road and to
00;17;28;26 - 00;17;54;03
Unknown
score three goals and I believe 39 seconds. What a jolt that can't be done. So but I and then the only thing that bothered me about it and I've seen this in hockey a million times and it's okay. I hate to see two teams spilling blood out there and just working their asses off. And the game winner is such a pinball.
00;17;54;04 - 00;18;14;20
Unknown
Yeah, a fluke ish, which happens a lot in overtime in games, but I just wanted to see more of a great passing play, a three on two, you know. But it was such a, you know, I don't want to say lucky, but it was just, you know, the puck just bounced them one way. And I was watching game two with our good friend Jim Benjamin who's great.
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Unknown
Hockey. How is Benny doing? Benny's good. Tell him I said hello. I will, but the one thing he said sarcastically about midway through the second period of the game, he goes, I wish they'd show torts more.
00;18;27;23 - 00;18;50;28
Unknown
They can't stop. Well, hey, you know what? And again, when you take over a team with they came to go in the season and you're two wins you there. That's a story. And I get it. And I know what Jim meant when he said that. But yeah you know it is what it is. I mean he has he has found the lightning in a bottle.
00;18;51;00 - 00;19;10;19
Unknown
He the only time we got to see the torts that most of us know through his career was after the loss. Yeah. When he turned into that, turned into the guy we all know. You know, just being a prick to everybody. Gave the finger to everybody. Yeah. And then you know he's been Mr. Charming. They win every game I mean the avalanche series he was.
00;19;10;21 - 00;19;32;04
Unknown
Yeah. He didn't have to say two words. It didn't matter. He was smiling when I just went every game. I mean, but when they lose. So the excitement of the NBA finals, well, what's going to happen? What's going to happen now in the Stanley Cup Finals? What's your guess? I think you know, Vegas, you're watching them play and they don't have questions to answer say and goal like like Carolina.
00;19;32;05 - 00;19;54;00
Unknown
Now they're the hotter team. Yeah. And there but but again trust me the way these two games the last two games have gone with these sudden explosions of offense late in games by Carolina to just turn. We're fortunate we've got two series going where they're both unpredictable. Yeah. You got to watch. You got to watch. You just don't know.
00;19;54;01 - 00;20;17;11
Unknown
I mean there's two though in Carolina for 50 minutes. Look like the avalanche series. Carolina couldn't get anywhere. They couldn't be there. They they were getting beat to every puck. And I'm going, oh my God, this is the exact same thing. And then goes Bing, bing! And it's two, two. You know, that's why I just think these the Stanley Cup playoffs way more than the NBA historically.
00;20;17;11 - 00;20;36;15
Unknown
It's just so hard to watch and say, I know what's going to happen. This team is better. And they're going to because you just don't. No, no. And this series is living proof of it. Well we got the. We could be five to nothing tonight or it could be a three overtime game or five nothing. And then five, five, 1 in 5, five.
00;20;36;16 - 00;20;59;11
Unknown
Yeah. So the NBA finals. Tremendous excitement. America's riveted the Stanley Cup finals. North America's riveted. Ron, we're going to talk about the World Cup getting kicked off the world to be riveted. But but first, Ron has been out to dinner lately and has been coming across some of the products from our bird farm. Yeah. Let's talk about Redbird Farms for a minute.
00;20;59;11 - 00;21;19;02
Unknown
And this is really kind of, you know, it's kind of neat. And I brought it up and I'm not doing a commercial for either a restaurant. But Thursday night I was at Ocean Prime and something that my wife and I out in a whim. We went to Oliver's. Yeah. And both places I had the red bird chicken. Yeah.
00;21;19;03 - 00;21;44;24
Unknown
And it was absolutely outstanding. And, you know, it's good because there are two of a number of places that just don't serve the red bird chicken. They put it in the headlines in the menu. We proudly serve red bird chicken. I mean, what does that tell you? When these places could get any kind of chicken they want, they can pay what they want for it.
00;21;44;25 - 00;22;10;27
Unknown
They are trying to get people and they they advertise. They put it in big, bold letters. Hey, we serve red bird chicken. It's absolutely the best we can go through all this stuff. You know, it's fresh. No antibiotics ever. It's just it's all humanly raised, cage free. No added hormones, no additives. It's just the absolute best. And I had I had it Sunday night.
00;22;10;27 - 00;22;32;16
Unknown
I wasn't even planning on going to dinner. And I went out and I had a salad and I had the red bird chicken. And it was just such a good meal. So I'm telling you, and I'm not looking for a free meal from those places. They, they charge me. But but it's great evidence of how much they value red bird chicken.
00;22;32;16 - 00;22;56;00
Unknown
If they're in it and it's their business, you should value it to. Next time you go to your local grocers, ask for red bird chicken and take it from both of us. You will not be disappointed. Great. Hey, so the World Cup, after years of excitement building, is now finally about to get underway and the United States team is going to be taken on Paraguay.
00;22;56;01 - 00;23;27;15
Unknown
So to break it down, Ron Polo, give us give it a here's how I'm going to break it down. Why when we have the World Cup in this country. Why is why are the tickets almost impossible for real soccer fans to get you know, there's something wrong with that. Well, there's been so much movement on the money surrounding the World Cup, and the World Cup is always I thought FIFA is incredibly competitive with the International Olympic Committee and about who can grift more, who can.
00;23;27;16 - 00;23;48;19
Unknown
You know, I'm glad you said that because of all the entities in sports, which is dirtier. Isn't FIFA the king of the I don't know, I really they're up there close. Yeah. And they have more more power I think. So FIFA make up an award or something. They gave something to the president. Yes. A piece because he he can't get the Nobel so he gets the FIFA.
00;23;48;21 - 00;24;12;17
Unknown
Oh I just think when you have a listen, there are many, many people in this country. And good for them that the World Cup is the biggest sport event in their lives. Okay. And I just think and I read this story and maybe I'm wrong, but I read that you can't even get into any of these games unless you are really well heeled.
00;24;12;17 - 00;24;31;07
Unknown
Why can't they're playing in big places? Why can't they make a certain block of tickets? Because it's all about money. It's just I know I read last night what what it cost to get into the garden. That was criminal. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. But if you're a really good fan, were you selling your tickets when you finally got an NBA finals game?
00;24;31;08 - 00;24;52;11
Unknown
You know, you're all I know is did you read that they auctioned off some baseline tickets. Oh, really? Yeah. For for charity. For. Yeah, for $1 million. Oh. Oh my gosh, somebody paid it. I don't see a fan say that they sold three of their tickets for 18 K each. And they're like you know but these for next season.
00;24;52;13 - 00;25;28;22
Unknown
Yeah. It's you know, you go this brings up a bigger issue. And it's about sports in general. And not to get away from the World Cup because they're part of it. We're we're we're making a mistake in this country. We are. And I say we we are pricing out real people that want to do what I did as a kid and get close to my dad because he could afford to take me to a Celtic game or a Red Sox game, and he could and he could take his family, he could go out to dinner.
00;25;28;22 - 00;25;47;28
Unknown
We used to do this all the time as kids. We would go to the garden on a Sunday afternoon and watch wilt battle Russell. Yeah, my dad would take us to the North End for a bowl of spaghetti, and we'd go back and watch the Bruins and Rangers at 730. And you know, we he could afford to do it.
00;25;47;28 - 00;26;22;13
Unknown
And how can anybody with a young couple of young kids. People can but not not normal. Not normal, not regular people even like being a Bronco fan and us having the longest sellout streak. Normal people can't even go to normal. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. What's going to happen when the. And I'll make a prediction when the Broncos open their new stadium and every season ticket holder gets a letter a year in advance and says, welcome to our new stadium.
00;26;22;14 - 00;26;50;16
Unknown
Oh, by the way, we've been acting. We've enacted a private seat license we need. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we need ten grand, and we need 10 or 20 grand for you to continue. Yeah. And now a lot of people will pay it, but a lot of people will go. I've had tickets since 1967. I can't afford this anymore. I just think Jerry Jones was on to something a couple of years ago when he said he was talking about the NFL, but he could have been talking about all of sports.
00;26;50;16 - 00;27;17;28
Unknown
We're in danger of making every sport a studio television. So and I have this, this crazy theory that people look at me funny when I say it, but if you invent it from whole cloth, it didn't exist. Professional football today and it's going to and it's going to be as big as it is now. I think in real life you'd actually probably have to pay everyone about 30 bucks to go to the game because you need the studio audience for atmosphere.
00;27;18;04 - 00;27;36;05
Unknown
So you give everyone in the crowd 30 bucks to fill your stadium for the TV show, your show you're producing. You know, I got to say, I'll tell a story on myself. I just pushed back in Boston, my hometown, and I had a great time. My wife and I went, and I really didn't want to go to Fenway because I'm pissed off at John Henry.
00;27;36;05 - 00;28;00;02
Unknown
And my wife said, My God, we're not here. We don't live here. We're at the hotel like, you know, two blocks from come on, let's go. I said, okay, and we ended up long story short, we had a great time. We went to the cask and flag dinner. We had a lot of fun. But if I told you what I paid for the two tickets each night, think about it and then add some.
00;28;00;02 - 00;28;21;05
Unknown
Watching a couple of bad teams. Yeah, well, the Braves were in town, so I got one good team. But the point was, I'm very, very, very fortunate in life that I could afford it. But you've just taught me something I did not know. That cask and flagon had food. I've been in there a lot, but I've ever had, you know, I had not been in the cask and flagon since I was like a teenager.
00;28;21;05 - 00;28;39;24
Unknown
And so I said to my wife, and she's not a bar food. I said, let's just go to the cask and flag and do it for me. So we go into the cask and flagon. The food was great. Oh, good. There were salads. There were all kinds of good stuff. But it was the vibe, you know, it was the being in there hearing people bitch about the Red Sox having all.
00;28;39;25 - 00;29;04;11
Unknown
It was great. It was fun. And it brings back. I like in life now, as you get older, anything that brings back a memory of something good in life. Board pitching, yeah, whatever it is. When you were young in the day, it's good. So you like us over Paraguay? I'm going to go with the Russian commercial. The. When the guy says, I like the US to win the whole thing, and the guy goes, what?
00;29;04;17 - 00;29;22;28
Unknown
And he turns around and says, what? You don't believe in miracles? So they're in there in that group D, you know. Yeah. Well, how is Kirk? Tell me about they got turkey. Turkey got a good team. Yeah, yeah. You don't want to tell Turkish guys. You don't want to mess with them. Who is the favorite to win the World Cup?
00;29;23;01 - 00;29;42;22
Unknown
I think it's a Spain. France. It's European. Spain, France, England and Portugal I think are the top four on the betting line. And then you get then you get the South Americans, Brazil and Argentina. Because I know I won't watch it, but I will, I will you won't really because I do know you don't. I don't watch it religiously, but it's always on in the middle of the day.
00;29;42;22 - 00;30;07;04
Unknown
It's nothing on. And I watch. You know what I gotta say? I'm not ugly American. I'm just I didn't grow up with it. And you know what? And again, this is age. I'm a baseball guy, and I can sit there and watch a 15 to 14 Brewers win over the A's last night and enjoy it. And I follow baseball, but I'm in my 70s and I grew up with it.
00;30;07;04 - 00;30;28;04
Unknown
I did not grow up with soccer, and it's harder for me to get into it now when it gets down to the, you know. Yeah. The final 4 or 5. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll watch it. This is I think 16th odds in. So they're you know well there they were probably 16th at the 1980 Lake Placid Olympics. Right.
00;30;28;06 - 00;30;50;28
Unknown
It's what you're used to like I'll give you you probably you can get this I watch the golf this weekend because that's what I do. Yeah, I like watching I like watching the women's golf a lot. I watch more, I thought watching and again seeing JT posting, I don't want to use the word but miss a putt and then still win in a playoff is great.
00;30;50;29 - 00;31;14;23
Unknown
Nelly Korda and Charlie Hall also. They all make for a great show. I felt bad the two Coloradans had didn't have great Sundays, but came close as Wyndham Clark at the memorial. I didn't have a good Sunday, but she didn't really work up until about 17 when? What was Gerard? Yeah, Ryan nailed that. I thought Wyndham Clark was going to be in a playoff.
00;31;14;25 - 00;31;32;02
Unknown
Yeah. You know what else I watched over the weekend? That I found myself a little surprised. I was watching it, but I kind of liked it. Was the college baseball. Well, the softball I thought was tremendous. And I think the softball is easier to keep track of. Baseball people probably can follow the college baseball when you get to regional, super, regional.
00;31;32;02 - 00;31;51;25
Unknown
And who's in it? I you know, I'm just you know, I mean, I just like I like baseball and I guess that puts me on the, you know, minority anymore. But. Well, I live and I live in Colorado. Well, let's talk about I don't have any baseball to watch. So the Rockies have been able to wrestle last place in MLB for the angels and the Giants.
00;31;51;25 - 00;32;14;04
Unknown
There are some teams that are pushing them, pushing hard, but they have settled in to where they will be. And I think I blame you a little bit because last week you brought up justifiably so how good sons Attila had been, which he had been so like a joker. And I don't do this often. After I watched the Red Sox beat the Yankees, which was a rare.
00;32;14;06 - 00;32;32;07
Unknown
There you go. Okay, I flicked over and said, okay, Rockies are playing the Brewers. They got the lead. I'm going to watch the last couple innings, which I did, and I watched sons Attila throw a potential double play ball into center, but not a poor pitching. He pitched well, he pitched and he had a double play ball that he needed.
00;32;32;09 - 00;32;49;03
Unknown
And he and he went into center field. He I was looking at in my mind the most tradable. And that got them going on a. Yeah, well they lost four straight. Now with the Cubs coming to town and their fan and the Cubs are angry right now and the Cubs have been struggling. And this for the Cubs. This is a get right series.
00;32;49;04 - 00;33;12;26
Unknown
Well yeah that's the trouble is when you're always the get right series you know that's what you have. I mean listen I'm watching the game and I'm watching bits and pieces now Rockies games I don't sit down and, you know, spend 2.5 hours. But I want the Rockies to do Tom what they should have been doing for years and never did.
00;33;12;27 - 00;33;48;00
Unknown
You've settled into last place. You kind of know what this season is going to be. I like the catcher. He's he's he's terrific all star, great hitter. I like Tovar everybody else you grabs come on. So but since Tela would be one, I think Mo'Nique might be their second best tradable option. Okay, when the Rockies get to where we're sitting here years from now for Still Here, which is highly doubtful, and they are playoff real, legitimate playoff contenders.
00;33;48;01 - 00;34;09;13
Unknown
Ask yourself, other than Hunter Goodman. Yeah. And Tovar, who else will be on the team when they're. No, they won't be. So if I if somebody likes Mickey Mo'Nique and they're going to give you a pretty good prospect. Yeah. Have him here. Yes we can. Well the Ralph Kiner story. The great hitter in the 50s for the Pirates who always finished last.
00;34;09;13 - 00;34;32;04
Unknown
And he went in for, you know, he's making $11,000 a year and he wants 12,000. The GM looks at him. He goes, Ralph, we finished ninth with you. We can finish ninth without you. You know, you know it's amazing you bring that up. How how professional sports have changed so much where I remember reading that story about Ted Williams, where they send him his contract in the mail.
00;34;32;05 - 00;34;53;29
Unknown
Yeah. You know, like, there's no agent, there's no nothing. It's like, here's what we're going to give you. And he can send it back or send it back and say, I want $500 more. Okay. You drove a hard bargain. You get it. So but if you're the Rockies, one thing you can look at are the White Sox above 500, the White Sox, they went and got a big Japanese slugger made it again.
00;34;54;01 - 00;35;12;18
Unknown
He got hurt, but they got a Japanese. The White Sox did two things. And this is something the Rockies won't do. And I followed the White Sox there. Their trajectories like this. The White Sox had a great young pitcher who they knew wasn't going to be with them when they were good again. So what did they do? J.
00;35;12;19 - 00;35;39;11
Unknown
Garrett Crochet and he is good. And he got he's hurt. This year they traded him to the Red Sox for not one, not two, not three, but four prospects, three of them highly ranked. Two of them now on the White Sox playing well. So this is something. And they go out and they sign a slugging Japanese. But the Rockies need to have vision like that.
00;35;39;11 - 00;35;59;12
Unknown
But they also have to have Garrett crochet and Garrett crochet. You have to have in your system. You have to draft well, develop well. So yes, you have a gem. Yes to to sell. But at least even if you don't have that Jim think forward. Yeah. Well maybe they are now. Maybe. When was the last time we sat here?
00;35;59;19 - 00;36;16;13
Unknown
Any year. And we the the trading deadline came and we said, wow, the Rockies, they were smart. They dumped this guy, that guy and this guy. But look who they they picked up a guy who's going to play third base for eight years. They picked up a pitcher who might be a third guy in your. They never do that.
00;36;16;15 - 00;36;37;00
Unknown
Never. Well, now is the time. Well, this this is you know, June will be a big month. But you made a great point. There's everybody's in contention. Sends a tell if you put him on the market. There's a lot of good teams that would say that guy can pitch the seventh or eighth inning first. No. And we got our top ten prospects.
00;36;37;00 - 00;36;58;21
Unknown
We'll give them the fifth best prospect in our organization, which this year I think they might be able to, you know, market sensitive if they do and say, okay, you know, here you are. Milwaukee wants him and the you know, the Orioles whoever. Yeah. Tell me what you got as opposed to when you called the Cardinal said if we give you 50 million, will you take Arnoldo?
00;36;58;25 - 00;37;24;06
Unknown
Don't bring up and send us and send us a couple of guys you're done with. So? So it looks. No, it's just that that's I. We can't listen. Hey, I got some football for you, okay? The Brendan Swords story. Probably the story of the last, what, 72 hours? Well, I it's it's amazing because it does seem. Should we tell people though, that maybe are not totally familiar with what we're talking about?
00;37;24;07 - 00;37;45;12
Unknown
Brendan. Source. Be a transfer quarterback. Good. Good player out of Cincinnati. Goes to Texas Tech. Played at Indiana. Yeah. Played a year and had a problem there. Had a problem. Came out that he made hundreds of bets totaling some 90 $90,000 over the last few years. But he got a they Texas Tech and Swords got a kind ruling from a judge.
00;37;45;13 - 00;38;07;25
Unknown
Well source B went to a judge to try and keep his athletic career because the NCAA said he's he's ineligible. Yes. But the judge says yeah he is. Yeah. He's ineligible. He's very good. Player two yeah. So you know what the judge said. Tell you what two game suspension sounds right. Yeah. And college football has reacted well. I would say the word angrily.
00;38;07;26 - 00;38;23;26
Unknown
It's so funny to me though because college football, if you can get anybody to agree on anything, it's hard in this case, the one everyone agrees. But when I when you talk about the moral high ground in college football, it's like a little ant hill. Can you let me. I'm going to start in a new pile on. All right.
00;38;23;29 - 00;38;48;25
Unknown
I understand why every college football coach that I read in every ad and every school president is outraged, and they don't want to play Texas Tech anymore. And this will show them. I get all that. Now, having said that, what a bunch of hypocrites. Okay, number one, if we've learned nothing else, I sound like a story from The Godfather.
00;38;48;25 - 00;39;31;23
Unknown
If we've learned nothing else, professional and college athletics or in bed with gambling that is no longer up for debate. That's a fact. The fact that this kid bet $90,000 is just a byproduct of getting in bed with gambling. When you get in bed with gambling, this is what's called collateral damage. Every kid in America has a phone with a FanDuel or a draft king or whatever it is, and he bets on everything all the time.
00;39;31;28 - 00;39;56;28
Unknown
College athletics and professional athletics have decided, you know, there's money to be. Yes, we're going to get into this. So when you get into it, don't sit here higher than mighty higher and say, oh my God, what he did is so horrible. Hey, I got news for you. Everybody's gambling. We know about him. You think there aren't other kids that are gambling?
00;39;56;28 - 00;40;16;22
Unknown
Well, from an ancillary point to this also brings into focus nil. Because when I was in college, I didn't have $90,000. Now, maybe he comes from a well-to-do, the source of maybe the source or the source be the Real Housewives. But he's a quarterback. He's a blue chip. He's going to be a starter. He's good. So he's making money.
00;40;16;23 - 00;40;35;24
Unknown
So he has money to bet. Now here's my thing. They that he only bet on his team never bet against his team. Which takes me to my Pete Rose. This is the Pete Rosen now like yeah well Pete Rose the days he didn't bet on his team he was telling you they were going to lose. Yes. You know exactly what happened on I used to always want to say to Rose.
00;40;36;01 - 00;40;53;12
Unknown
How about today's. You didn't know we were facing. You think the bullpen sucked that day? You knew you weren't going to use your closer, so I just won't bet. But here's the thing. Now he's undergone treatment for a gambling addiction. And this becomes his his veil for this. But it seemed like he was only addicted when he thought his team was going to win.
00;40;53;14 - 00;41;17;16
Unknown
Okay, here's the question. When he didn't get on, he was able to stay off. Here's the question I want to ask you. And I don't have an answer to this, do we? When we say somebody has a gambling addiction? Yes. Which, you know, I know about, but I'm not a clinical psychologist. Do we put that in the same bin as an addiction to alcohol, as an addiction to drugs?
00;41;17;17 - 00;41;36;25
Unknown
Or do we look at a gambling addiction because of what you just said, that he's only addicted on days, that he's gambling, on the days we're going to win, on the days of he wouldn't bet against him. He was free of addiction. So, I mean, I heard a lot of people tell me that a gambling addiction is no different than an alcoholic.
00;41;36;27 - 00;41;56;06
Unknown
There's a chemical as a as a. But I'm not here to tell you that that's true or false. I'm here to say that I've heard that, and I can't. I can't argue against that. Can you know, I don't know enough about. I, I did go to college for over a year. So. So you're pretty smart. Pretty well. Right.
00;41;56;10 - 00;42;18;24
Unknown
You're ahead of me. So give me your give me your educated view on. I already forgot what I learned. It's interesting too, because it also once again highlights the NCAA, which was a very powerful organization, is now entirely toothless. They have no the NCAA. Tom is pretty much done right. This this will be a strong case for that as anybody.
00;42;18;26 - 00;42;44;00
Unknown
Yeah I think within five years they will cease to exist. Well, except for the NCAA basketball tournament, that might be okay. That might be a little different. But when it comes to college football, they're running circles around the NCAA. The conferences are calling. See, is something more powerful than the NCAA. I feel bad for this kid. Yes, because he went by the letter of the law.
00;42;44;00 - 00;43;10;02
Unknown
What we do, he went to a judge. The judge made a ruling. And again, in this country, we're supposed to President Trump notwithstanding, we're supposed to abide by the yeah. What a judge decrees now. And he's also, you know, because he's out there, he's the famous one, but he's certainly not alone. But other. Listen, you can't sit here and say, well, this kid saws me.
00;43;10;03 - 00;43;30;27
Unknown
He bet a lot of money. Well, he's the one. But these other 20, oh kids that are playing college football around the country, not one of them is doing anything. All their friends are gambling. They're all on their phone. They're betting on the Yankees tonight. They're betting on who scores the first goal in the Stanley Cup playoff game.
00;43;30;28 - 00;43;49;18
Unknown
That you can bet on anything. Well, now the other the what's what's the other one? The the markets. The house. Yeah. Another. And the other thing that you definitely can't track is they could just have their friends do it for them. Yeah, sure, they can do it themselves. Friends do. Listen. How many examples in the NFL in the last ten years?
00;43;49;20 - 00;44;08;16
Unknown
Countless examples of kids in the NFL that are gambling and they're either doing it on their phone, they're using a friend this and you can't anymore when you get in bed with it, you know, you can't be holier than thou. But back in the day, you go back to like Paul Horning and Alex Carey. That was suspended in the 60s.
00;44;08;17 - 00;44;26;03
Unknown
And, you know, for for gambling because gambling was illegal then they were before their time. Yeah, it was, it was the early 60s. Speaking of off field football, Jonathan Cooper making news in the wrong way for the Broncos this week. He and and his girlfriend I think his girl I think it was his I think it was his girlfriend.
00;44;26;04 - 00;44;53;11
Unknown
Not both arrested involving a domestic violence case or. Yeah, well, criminal mischief with a domestic violence enhancer. It's an allegation allegation of domestic assault. And so that obviously is something that the league immediately wants to know more about, as well as the Broncos themselves and law enforcement. And Harvey Steinberg, of course, surfaces. He's always he's always been there for years.
00;44;53;12 - 00;45;09;21
Unknown
He's one of the old timers. Oh, boy. But so you wonder, like, what kind of impact does that actually have on your football team? And the one way it could have a definite impact is if, in fact, the league does suspend him for a game or two, which would include that six game roll they have to start the season.
00;45;09;21 - 00;45;30;10
Unknown
They're very important, very big games where you want your best football team on the field, so it's if they put on a tough spot, if they suspend him, it's it has an effect. If they don't suspend him, it has zero effect. Yeah. Players just they roll on. I just think players are kind of at least when I was around it.
00;45;30;13 - 00;45;49;04
Unknown
Players can absorb so much on the outside and compartmentalize and focus on what they got to do that day. And in the locker room, you may talk about it a little bit. They may say something, but once you get out there, you better not be thinking you get a job in football goes fast. It goes fat. Yeah, yeah.
00;45;49;05 - 00;46;19;27
Unknown
I just think the outside is always more effective than, you know, in the room. I think those guys. Yeah, they're one thing professional athletes I think are really good at is blocking out. By the way, did you see the story that Victor Wembanyama, I guess yesterday because they had an extra day off in New York, like went to Central Park and sketched a picture of Adam Booth, John Wilkes Booth, brother, because a statue.
00;46;19;27 - 00;46;49;16
Unknown
And I thought, can you imagine walking into the park and seeing a seven foot six guy with his knees up over his head with a big, you know, what do they call it? And then sketching. He is he is a unique worldly. The NBA is lucky to have a character, a personality like that. Well, it's it's it's very different.
00;46;49;17 - 00;47;10;26
Unknown
I just want to finish on the Broncos though because they went through a very important I forget what they call them all now minicamp whatever. You know they get together a barbecue. They played some football and stuff like that. And I guess all the noise really is surrounding Jaylen Waddle doing his first work. If you read about Jaylen Waddle, he's the greatest wide receiver of all time.
00;47;10;28 - 00;47;28;25
Unknown
Well we had Raymond Berry. We talked about him last week. He's better than Raymond Berry better than Raymond. No it'll be interesting because now today Marvin Mims announced he's changing his agent. And Marvin Mims is a guy that I think most Bronco fans really like the excitement of Marvin Mims. And most people would like to see him on the field.
00;47;28;27 - 00;47;46;04
Unknown
He came, he came on strong and he's great. Returner needs to be on the field more, but it looks like he's ticketed to be on the field less in the Waddle era. I think Sean Payton likes him and I think they and not to be critical, they had a great year. I didn't think they used him the right way.
00;47;46;06 - 00;48;09;24
Unknown
They didn't use him much. Yeah, they could, but they ran a million wide receiver screens with him. When you have that kind of speed, throw the ball down the field. In the playoffs, he made some big plays down the field. And listen, if he's your third wide receiver this year you're pretty good. Because I think as a third guy he'll get a lot.
00;48;09;28 - 00;48;32;12
Unknown
He'll get your third best cornerback. Yes. And he'll get open and I have no. If your three guys are Waddle Sutton and Marvin Mims, I'd say that's in the upper. Clearly the upper half of the NFL and maybe a little better than that. Yeah. And I just think they worry about, you know, while Mims and Waddle are smaller.
00;48;32;18 - 00;48;59;01
Unknown
Yeah. As far as that position, I always think, you know, the the Broncos commitment to trying to run the ball, trying to be more effective now running the ball. Maybe there'll be a slight I emphasize slight adjustment in that. Well some how they have Jaylen Waddle sometimes running the football doesn't involve wide receivers. Blocking it involves wide receivers taking safeties, taking corners and making them run with them instead of not everybody blocks like Ed McCaffrey and Rod Smith.
00;48;59;01 - 00;49;22;16
Unknown
But I do think that you know Jaylen Waddle I, I really like him. I think he's going to make Courtland Sutton and Marvin Mims better. Yeah I really do. First of all he's he's he's going to he's going to get the top corner on every time they play. And like you said Mims is going to end up maybe sometimes in the next lot getting the nickel guy whatever.
00;49;22;16 - 00;49;54;03
Unknown
And you know, as long as Bo Nix has time, I think the I think the Broncos are going to be good. And I'm I'm sitting there watching one of these afternoon shows. You know I think it was on Fox. Right. And they're putting up the odds in the AFC to get back to the Super Bowl. And I saw Buffalo I saw Baltimore I saw Kansas City I saw San Diego or L.A. I saw Houston I'm sorry.
00;49;54;06 - 00;50;15;21
Unknown
And they were all New England. New England they were all Cincinnati. Cincinnati is ahead of the road. They the Broncos were like eight. And I thought, I don't get it. Maybe we are the flyover you know capital of the country and that whatever happens here. Yeah it happened. But so you put a you put a lot of light on that.
00;50;15;22 - 00;50;41;01
Unknown
You bet a lot on that. Right. I won't going to bed on, on it. But if I was Sean Payton I would do it. Mike Brown I hope did with the Knicks and show the players the tape of the Spurs celebrating after beating OKC because I would say football player, they got a lot of time. If I was Sean Payton, I talked to him about here's what the national here's what the national media them they think like where would you put them on that list.
00;50;41;03 - 00;50;58;24
Unknown
A lot higher than eighth. I'd certainly put above the Chiefs. I'd put him again. Here's what I would do. I would put him ahead of Houston. I would put him ahead of the Chargers. Thank you. Not San Diego. I would put him ahead of Cincinnati. I might even put him ahead of Baltimore. Baltimore's got a brand new coach.
00;50;58;24 - 00;51;20;10
Unknown
I don't know how he's going to be. What about he's Buffalo because I think Buffalo. You wonder what like that string is running out. It is. But I will give Buffalo this that you know we can argue about that game in here forever. Buffalo still got a great quarterback. They have a great running back. I wouldn't mind if we ran into a similar situation again this year.
00;51;20;11 - 00;51;37;18
Unknown
Getting to play him in the playoffs. Well again as it was in Buffalo. Yeah, of course it was another team with a new head coach. And you know these head coaches that don't have great track records. It's one thing if you hire John Harbaugh and you go, okay, I know exactly what I'm getting. I've seen it for 18 years.
00;51;37;19 - 00;51;59;20
Unknown
But when you hire Jesse Minter, you know it could be great. We've got a long list of guys that were great coordinators that just couldn't do it as a head coach. Final note the odds of like the US beating Paraguay, but do you think they can shut out the Paraguayans? You know, it's a it's a country of 7 million people.
00;51;59;21 - 00;52;13;18
Unknown
And it can't be that we should be. We should be able to handle it. Can we hold them to nil? I think we can hold them to nil. I'm going to go out in the limb. I think the USB the Paraguayans will see will waive the c nil on Friday. That'll wrap it up for us. As always, we'd love to hear from you.
00;52;13;19 - 00;52;34;00
Unknown
You can reach us at ather at Gorilla Sports. And we've been killing penalties here for two weeks. We've been icing the puck. We've been stick handling around, but we should be at full strength. Even hockey. What he paid back next week? We hope so. Hopefully. Are we going to give him a hard time? How was your vacation? How was the vacation?
00;52;34;00 - 00;52;51;24
Unknown
What what did you do to take a few weeks off and after his life coach told you he's off the team? My life coach just told me I'm off the team. I couldn't get a life. Words from Woody and we'll hear from Woody next week when we're back for After the Horn. Thanks again for joining us. We'll see you next week.