The Olympics take center stage as Woody Paige, Ron Zappolo and Tom Green break down the medal race, Mikaela Shiffrin’s pursuit of gold, and the mental pressure facing elite athletes. The guys debate whether the NBA finally fixed the All-Star Game, react to major cultural losses, and shift to Broncos free agency with specific roster targets and offseason strategy. From US–Canada hockey to Denver’s salary cap flexibility, it’s a wide-ranging, opinionated edition of After the Horn.
The guys open with Olympic storylines, including the medal race, US–Canada hockey anticipation, and standout athletes before diving into a deeper discussion about pressure, performance, and how athletes like Mikaela Shiffrin and Ilia Malinin handle the biggest stage. They reflect on legacy while paying tribute to Robert Duvall and Jesse Jackson, discussing impact beyond sports. The conversation shifts to whether the NBA finally found the right All-Star format, and what it would take to truly fix the event long term. Finally, it’s full Broncos mode: salary cap flexibility, free agency priorities, tight end and wide receiver targets, and whether splash trades like A.J. Brown make sense for Denver’s future.
00:00 – Olympic medal race and US–Canada hockey preview
05:45 – Avalanche players in the Olympics and standout performances
12:45 – Tribute to Robert Duvall and Jesse Jackson
18:40 – Mikaela Shiffrin, Olympic pressure and athlete mental resilience
21:00 – College basketball surge and CU basketball outlook
36:00 – Ronda Rousey return talk and combat sports discussion
37:10 – NBA All-Star Game format debate and whether it worked
44:00 – Broncos free agency outlook and salary cap flexibility
45:00 – Tight end targets: Isaiah Likely debate
49:00 – Wide receiver options: Alec Pierce, Rasheed Shaheed and more
1:00:05 – Trade rumors: A.J. Brown discussion
1:02:30 – Final thoughts and offseason expectations
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Tom Green
coming up today we're going to break down the biathlon. Nobody breaks down the biathlon like Woody Page talking about the Broncos and free agency. We're also going to pay tribute to a couple of great Americans that we lost this week.
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Ron Zappolo
Hi, everybody. After the horn, Woody Page, Tom Green runs a polo. We're all happy to be here.
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Tom Green
Yes, well, we're also happy that our friends at Furniture Row have provided us with these comfy places to sit at our tables to, to house our plants.
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Ron Zappolo
So get out of the way.
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Tom Green
As always, we want to thank our friends at Furniture Row for for making our place so, so lovely.
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Woody Paige
I'm laughing because rod said, I think I'll put two plants.
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Speaker 3
Oh yeah?
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah, you know what? Before we started, because Woody and I have a joke. I said, Woody, let's do one, let's do two. It's really make it shake.
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Woody Paige
And people at home to send us something?
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Speaker 3
Yes.
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Woody Paige
Send it to us. Careful what you wish for us, but, bring it by my house if you want to, of something that we can put on the coffee table.
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Tom Green
So here we are, mid Olympics and, the metals race. What is one you've been keeping an eye on?
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Woody Paige
This is really important to me. And there's three countries involved that I feel close to Norway. I was there for the Olympics and I love Norwegians. They are the they're the most.
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Ron Zappolo
As somebody once famously said, why can't we get more people from Norway in this country?
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah.
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Woody Paige
Every one of them a every one of them is beautiful. The men are beautiful.
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Tom Green
It's 100%.
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Woody Paige
Secondly, they speak English better than we do. There's that because they have to take 5 or 6 years of English, like we take Spanish or whatever. And the third thing I found out when I was over there for the Olympics, I'd say, have you ever been the United States? They have to serve one year, either in the military or at Disneyland.
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Speaker 3
But the truth. And so every one of them.
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Woody Paige
Would tell me, I chose Disney World over military choice. That that. So I love Norway.
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Ron Zappolo
How about their first?
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Woody Paige
Italy is second and they should win. They put all the, congressmen and man, I'm watching beautiful. They know Iceland. We've all been to Italy. If not, that's your mistake.
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Ron Zappolo
But look at me. I've been six times.
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Woody Paige
What is your favorite city?
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Ron Zappolo
I can tell you right now, I like southern Italy. I like flying down to to go to Palermo in Sicily, which I think is the most beautiful place in the world I've enjoyed. Rome. Milan is like going to New York. Venice is great. There's a million other.
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Tom Green
I like Florence, Florence.
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Speaker 3
Florence, Florence.
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Woody Paige
Look for. It's Harry's Cafe on the river.
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Ron Zappolo
I'm a Palermo guy. I just have.
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Speaker 3
You know, Stone Street.
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Woody Paige
Tell you what the problem is. Italy. There's a good side. They have the greatest McDonald's in the world. You're really what I'm saying?
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Ron Zappolo
No, Woodrow.
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Woody Paige
It is.
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Ron Zappolo
We don't go to McDonald's in Italy, but it's the best.
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Woody Paige
For us, okay? It's difficult to find a bathroom somewhere.
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Tom Green
But if you go to Palermo, he's your guy. You got a guy?
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Ron Zappolo
Well, I got it. You got it. You got.
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Speaker 3
A guy.
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Ron Zappolo
He's your so inside joke. Got a guy.
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Woody Paige
But I would like to see Italy overtake Norway. And third is the United States. I'm going. Yeah. We're not having, you know what the World Series is called. What is what is the title of the World Series?
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Ron Zappolo
The World.
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Woody Paige
Series now. But it's called the fall.
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Speaker 3
Class for class. The Fall.
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Woody Paige
Classic is what's happening with the.
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Speaker 3
Class.
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Woody Paige
Everybody is falling down. I mean, they're falling down on the hills. They're falling down on the ice. They're falling.
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Ron Zappolo
Down. Can I give you one more? But I just think it hasn't been now yet. It's not over yet.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. I don't think it's been that compelling.
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Tom Green
There have been moments like. Like every Olympiad in it's created some stars.
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Ron Zappolo
But the US, Canada, men's hockey and women's. That in the women too. Yeah, but especially the men because we're so familiar with everybody. That'll be on the ice. And it's.
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Tom Green
You got to get there first.
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Ron Zappolo
True, but I would be.
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Speaker 3
Stunned.
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Ron Zappolo
If either one of them got knocked off.
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Tom Green
I think because it is set now, the US, against Canada in the women's final, we can talk about that directly. And the American team has mowed everyone down, including Canada, on their way to the gold medal game. Canada, without their legendary star, Murray Philip Poulin, who will play in the gold medal game. But, they're on a run.
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Tom Green
When you talk about maybe some Americans falling and failing the American hockey team has outscored everyone 31 to 1.
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Ron Zappolo
Americans never fall and fail. Americans are perfect.
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Speaker 3
We're falling.
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Woody Paige
In speedskating. We're doing American ice skating.
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Speaker 5
We're in democracy.
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Ron Zappolo
America's the best, right? Right. Natasha? Americans. Everybody's better than everybody else. And then there's the.
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Speaker 5
Number one in everything, right? Well, that's what they they tell us, you.
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Ron Zappolo
Know, as, as, what they famously said, an easy rider, a great film before your time, America. Love it or leave it.
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Speaker 3
There you go.
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Tom Green
Going back. Going back away.
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Ron Zappolo
What a great film that was, though.
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Tom Green
Well.
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Ron Zappolo
I think about a Jack Nicholson in his first role, Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda. Pretty good. Now only Jack is left. But, what a great film.
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Woody Paige
They used to play golf with Dennis Hopper in Hawaii.
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Tom Green
What was that like?
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Ron Zappolo
Because that's the story about. That might be fun.
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Woody Paige
I actually met his wife on a plane. She she liked horses, and she would come to Colorado and buy horses. And I was on a plane when Detroit was playing the avalanche in the playoffs. And she was from Detroit. She was in, 3 or 4 movies with, okay, this Hopper Hopper, I thought, played a great part in Hoosiers.
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Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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Woody Paige
He had a lot of good parts, but people remembered just the one,
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Ron Zappolo
Great news.
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Woody Paige
I said this at the Super Bowl in Ford 48. I interviewed Kevin Costner, and I was talking about I said I loved Waterworld, and I was the only person in the whole.
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Speaker 3
World say, yeah.
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Woody Paige
But the point was. And I said, I was over there when you were making Waterworld, and I was staying at the Monica Beach, same place where most of the actors were staying. And I said I was on the golf course and on the practice tee, and this guy comes up to me and said, you got a game? And I said, no.
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Woody Paige
And I turn around and said, are you Dennis Hopper? And he said, yeah. I said, what are you doing here? He said, I'm, I'm the villain in Waterworld. If you remember the movie, at the peak, few people have watched it. And he said, you want to play? And I said, yeah. And he said, how long are you going to be here?
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Woody Paige
I said, I'm to two weeks. And he said, I'm going to be here about two weeks doing this when I'm not doing the movie. Would you like to play golf? Yeah. He wasn't. He was about like me. I was like 15 or 16 and that's about what he was. And so when I interviewed Costner just got a good idea.
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Woody Paige
I said I was playing with your villain, the villain in Waterworld, and he said, how often were you playing? I said, but every other day, he said, we were looking for him all fighting.
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Speaker 3
I'm guessing that's a secret for me.
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Woody Paige
Plays golf with you, watch Waterworld?
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Tom Green
No, I never saw.
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Ron Zappolo
I actually did you not in the theater, but you know, on.
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Woody Paige
Cast, the customer had ears. Yeah. The the head. Yeah.
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Ron Zappolo
I remember was the female lead wasn't it. No I do, Jean Tripplehorn.
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Tom Green
Oh, sure. Sure, I know that. Remember the name. So while we're doing this since we moved off the Olympics.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah. But you know, we.
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Woody Paige
Were talking about how.
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Ron Zappolo
Justifiably, I think.
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Tom Green
But I want to I want to, since we're talking movies and people. I mean, Robert Duvall's, passing this week really impacted me because I started to go down the list. And it's an incredible list that his character is in almost every movie he was in. And many of my great films were indelible. So I looked and started to go to the movies.
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Tom Green
We all know The Godfather and, you know, you just think of these, these classic films. He was such a big part of. But there was a movie he made in the early 80s with Robert DeNiro called True Confessions, where he plays a hard ass Los Angeles police detective Tom spell. And I just remember, I mean, Robert Duvall just took parts and just owned them.
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Ron Zappolo
I thought he was an actor's actor. No, I thought he was one of the most underrated actors of his generation. And when I think of his career, just like you and I think of the films, a lot of the films, he was so understated because he figured out, like he played Tom Hagen perfectly, because he looked at Brando and Pacino and said, these guys are bigger than life.
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Ron Zappolo
They can't have another bigger than life guy. And he understated it. And I went back a few weeks ago and watched The Godfather. He was brilliant. And you know the other thing about him, Woody, he uttered one of the most famous lines in cinematic history. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
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Tom Green
Oh yeah? How? But how long was he actually in Apocalypse Now? But he kind of. You remember.
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Speaker 3
Him, but you remember.
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Woody Paige
He's only in there for about ten minutes.
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Ron Zappolo
Right? But I remember him still. Tender mercies are lonesome Dove.
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Tom Green
But that's how I was going to say.
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Woody Paige
Since you said that. What was that? We were just talking about God. But he did a little interest movie about God off of,
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Tom Green
You know, later.
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Ron Zappolo
Later in his.
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Woody Paige
Career, and I don't remember the name of it, but it was about a guy that nobody knew. And he was it was a talk about understated. You're right. Because he wouldn't do Godfather three. Yeah. Don't ask about it. He said no, it was money. You said they were paying the other guy.
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Ron Zappolo
They didn't want to pay me.
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Woody Paige
And they didn't want to pay for.
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Speaker 3
Love it, love it. So he walked.
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Woody Paige
Away from The Godfather trilogy because he said they didn't pay.
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Tom Green
Me. He reminds me also of evolving into doing, more comedy because he could play that hard ass, could play anything. And like, I remember kicking.
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Speaker 5
And screaming.
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Tom Green
And kicking and.
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Speaker 3
Screaming, please play.
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Tom Green
Will Ferrell's dad. I know.
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Woody Paige
But he also did great.
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Speaker 5
Well, that's a sport some for.
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Woody Paige
You is talking about. Is he crossed so many generations? Yeah.
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Speaker 5
Oh, yeah.
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Woody Paige
You know, a lot of people you'd say Carey drive. You're talking about Cary Grant. You say Cary Grant to people like Natasha. Nicole. I don't know him, but Robert Duvall crossed so many because he was. Would playing serious parts in great movies? Yeah, like The Godfather. And he was playing funny parts in. Yeah, all these sitcoms that came along.
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Ron Zappolo
I read an obituary about him last night and just just touch me. I don't know if it was his wife or Senate or somebody else, but they said his favorite things were a great meal and holding court. Yeah. And I thought that would be a fun guy.
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Woody Paige
He was in the first to.
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Ron Zappolo
Be around.
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Woody Paige
Jack Reacher movie, wasn't he? With Tom?
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Tom Green
He might have been, yes.
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Ron Zappolo
And his wife. I'm waiting for you. Play the guy that.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, he had a small part in that.
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Woody Paige
In that first Jack Reacher movie with Tom cruise.
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Tom Green
Oh, yeah? Yeah. No, I.
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Woody Paige
Remember he.
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Speaker 3
Owned,
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Woody Paige
Shooting.
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Tom Green
Range.
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Woody Paige
Rage. Yeah. So he comes out of that and saves Tom cruise at the end of that movie, because he's sitting up on the hill.
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Tom Green
Well, it's a good thing they cast him because some other guy wouldn't have been able to save Tom cruise.
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Woody Paige
And we were talking.
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Tom Green
About no good.
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Ron Zappolo
Robert.
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Woody Paige
Robert Duvall was one of the great actors. Yeah. I don't know that he's totally recognized for being as great as he really was.
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Ron Zappolo
Because he's not. Because you know what? He's not a leading man, and we don't.
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Tom Green
He was the other guy in. So many movies. But.
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Woody Paige
And the other directors, Jesse Jackson became, I tweeted today we were friends for like 50 years. And people go, you and Jesse Jackson, you know, you were, you know, southern cracker.
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Tom Green
Sadly, you go back to Tennessee together.
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Woody Paige
We I was covering the assassination of Doctor King, and he was his number one guy. And we were both about the same age in our 20s. And we remained friends. And when the Broncos were in the Super Bowl in New York, I know people don't want to remember that experience, but Jesse and I reunited and we were together like what we were talking about early.
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Woody Paige
We were having drinks. He'd come on the radio show with me, and we were talking all week about the history of civil rights and the history of sports. He's a big sports fan, and, that's an incredible loss. Jesse Jackson.
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Ron Zappolo
You can't write the, you can't write the history or the story of civil rights in this country.
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Woody Paige
Without a president twice.
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Ron Zappolo
Without mentioning Jesse.
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Speaker 3
Jackson. Yeah.
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Tom Green
So will you talk about, you know, Duvall in a different way? Of course, Jesse Jackson. But, you know, when you leave the Earth, do you leave some sort of a footprint? And those two guys, they did some huge.
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Woody Paige
And I hope the show lasts long enough so that you guys are talking about me like, yeah, we're talking about Robert Duvall with Jesse Jackson. You'll say, well, you know, he changed, he changed the parameters of. And then he'll say, no, he didn't.
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Speaker 3
And maybe.
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Tom Green
I guess if you.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Woody Paige
When he was the first guy in the history of Colorado, I'd say I got a guy.
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Speaker 3
I got a guy, I got a guy I know, a guy got a guy's got a guy. Something like.
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Ron Zappolo
That. I don't want to see your guy.
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Woody Paige
I don't know how we drifted away from the Olympics. Yeah. Talk about good with good. You want to talk about.
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Tom Green
But I want to drift back in because that men's hockey match that if it does, in fact, come to the United States and Canada. And for avalanche fans, it's it's been spectacular to watch the tournament because the avalanche have been shining for all their teams. But I would say whereas the American women are hefty favorites against the Canadian women in the gold medal match, I'd say if you get the Americans and Canadians that Canadian team is likely not to be as heavy a favorite, but a solid.
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Ron Zappolo
They'll be a favorite. Yeah, they're better team.
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Woody Paige
How many players? Here's a trivia question for you. That's modern day. How many avalanche players are in the Olympics?
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Tom Green
Eight.
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Ron Zappolo
Eight.
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Woody Paige
I don't see how.
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Ron Zappolo
You texted something last night, which you had a bunch of great ideas. Who is your favorite Olympic athlete to this point.
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Woody Paige
In this Olympics?
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Speaker 3
Yes.
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Woody Paige
Jordan shots the speed skater.
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Ron Zappolo
Okay.
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Woody Paige
He is the only guy that's just totally. He is. He is so good. And he talks like the guy who won it was the quarterback, right?
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Tom Green
Oh Fernando Mendoza.
00;14;30;26 - 00;14;31;13
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00;14;31;15 - 00;14;35;16
Woody Paige
And he and all of the speed skaters. Bonnie Blair remember her.
00;14;35;18 - 00;14;35;27
Tom Green
Own.
00;14;35;27 - 00;14;38;00
Woody Paige
Course. Bonnie Blair and.
00;14;38;00 - 00;14;39;07
Tom Green
And Eric Heiden.
00;14;39;07 - 00;14;47;06
Woody Paige
And Dan Charles fell down all the time. And, but we're all falling. I just like he's a they're all from Wisconsin.
00;14;47;09 - 00;14;48;09
Speaker 3
Yes, Wisconsin.
00;14;48;09 - 00;14;51;00
Woody Paige
West Allis is speed skating. Oh, I just.
00;14;51;00 - 00;14;53;13
Ron Zappolo
Forgot a Robert Duvall movie. You just reminded.
00;14;53;13 - 00;14;54;27
Tom Green
Me. I was going to say you two.
00;14;54;29 - 00;14;55;28
Ron Zappolo
You said falling.
00;14;55;28 - 00;14;57;24
Tom Green
Down. Yeah, he was in that with Michael Dunn.
00;14;57;24 - 00;15;01;14
Ron Zappolo
He was in that with Michael Douglas. Oh, he was great.
00;15;01;16 - 00;15;06;24
Woody Paige
The father, he he made the miserable father. And, he. But that army guy.
00;15;06;26 - 00;15;08;02
Ron Zappolo
Oh, the great Santini.
00;15;08;07 - 00;15;08;29
Tom Green
Santini there.
00;15;09;00 - 00;15;14;18
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, I know what he brought. He said that he based it, which is amazing. On his own father?
00;15;14;20 - 00;15;16;18
Woody Paige
Yeah, his father treated him like crap.
00;15;16;18 - 00;15;19;05
Ron Zappolo
You ever see that movie? Yes. Oh, my God.
00;15;19;06 - 00;15;20;00
Tom Green
Did his father see.
00;15;20;00 - 00;15;22;02
Speaker 3
Them? Well, I don't know.
00;15;22;05 - 00;15;24;02
Ron Zappolo
I'm assuming his dad's been long gone.
00;15;24;02 - 00;15;26;11
Woody Paige
Was it? You could go through the litany? Yeah.
00;15;26;12 - 00;15;27;04
Ron Zappolo
There's so many.
00;15;27;04 - 00;15;35;11
Woody Paige
It'll keep you. You go. Really? That he was in that. Yeah, but he was never, in The Great Santini. He he actually was the lead character.
00;15;35;11 - 00;15;35;18
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00;15;35;18 - 00;15;37;11
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, yeah. You played.
00;15;37;13 - 00;15;54;04
Woody Paige
But, these are great. Anyway, I picked out that I like the, I was, I have a friend, I'll say her, and she said, we're watching the giant slalom, and she goes, well, that's a long way down. I said, that's why it's called the Giants.
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Speaker 3
Oh.
00;15;55;15 - 00;15;57;03
Woody Paige
I said, the one that goes down shorter.
00;15;57;04 - 00;15;58;03
Speaker 3
You might call.
00;15;58;04 - 00;15;58;22
Woody Paige
The slalom.
00;15;58;24 - 00;16;00;23
Ron Zappolo
Your favorite athlete.
00;16;00;26 - 00;16;08;03
Tom Green
None have stood out tonight, to be honest. I mean, I've enjoyed each each night, each story. But it's not like one said, oh, my, I need to know more about him or her.
00;16;08;03 - 00;16;19;09
Ron Zappolo
And I got to be honest, I haven't watched very much. But my favorite athlete, I'd have to go with Tom Wilson. Oh, the guy who defended Nolan Arenado. I think he's number one. No.
00;16;19;11 - 00;16;20;06
Tom Green
Nathan MacKinnon.
00;16;20;12 - 00;16;26;00
Ron Zappolo
Yeah. Either Nathan Nolan or not a see him again.
00;16;26;03 - 00;16;27;13
Tom Green
But he might also.
00;16;27;15 - 00;16;29;17
Speaker 3
Might have said something about Nolan Arenado too.
00;16;29;17 - 00;16;30;13
Tom Green
That got under Tom.
00;16;30;13 - 00;16;30;20
Speaker 3
Wilson.
00;16;30;27 - 00;16;34;22
Woody Paige
And after you talked about Adorno, he talked about Chris Bright.
00;16;34;28 - 00;16;35;12
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00;16;35;12 - 00;16;40;14
Woody Paige
Exactly who we found. While we were talking last week, they put him on a 60 day.
00;16;40;20 - 00;16;40;25
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00;16;40;25 - 00;16;42;15
Woody Paige
They did. He got hurt watching the show.
00;16;42;17 - 00;16;45;13
Ron Zappolo
The athlete that's been kind of that I, you know, that I've.
00;16;45;13 - 00;16;46;11
Woody Paige
Read I gave you one.
00;16;46;11 - 00;16;47;25
Ron Zappolo
Anyway I Eileen GU.
00;16;48;03 - 00;16;48;27
Tom Green
Oh yeah. Yeah.
00;16;49;00 - 00;16;57;22
Ron Zappolo
Pretty interesting story about how she grew up here. She goes to Stanford and she's competing for China in,
00;16;57;25 - 00;16;58;19
Tom Green
For her mother.
00;16;58;19 - 00;17;06;27
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, for her mother, who's Chinese. And she's made a ton of dough. I didn't realize till I read a story about her. She was in the Beijing Games and.
00;17;06;29 - 00;17;13;29
Tom Green
They made $23 million. Yes and yes, but. But no. No gold yet. No gold. Yes. But, hey.
00;17;14;01 - 00;17;19;13
Ron Zappolo
There's no guarantees for gold. You know what you said? We fall down a lot. And that does.
00;17;19;18 - 00;17;26;11
Woody Paige
Bernard seem to do that. But I also I would throw in and I don't know his name, but the guy who's representing Brazil, who's actually.
00;17;26;12 - 00;17;27;26
Tom Green
Oh, yeah, Norway won and.
00;17;27;26 - 00;17;36;01
Woody Paige
His mother's from Brazil. And he does dances and he, he's got a, a personality dances unlike anything since the great Tama.
00;17;36;06 - 00;17;59;16
Tom Green
So, speaking of great skiers, aside from ourselves, Alberto Tomba and the like, Mikaela Shiffrin is is such an open book. She will tell you what she's feeling and what she's thinking, and she shares her life and her ups and downs very much. And the Olympics have always been a thing for her, but a struggle for her. She has won at the Olympics, but this year she's looking for it.
00;17;59;17 - 00;18;08;21
Tom Green
The women's slalom. Her event is coming up and I think it would be at this point to many surprising if she won.
00;18;08;23 - 00;18;10;06
Woody Paige
She is the greatest woman.
00;18;10;06 - 00;18;11;17
Ron Zappolo
Skier here in the history of.
00;18;11;17 - 00;18;29;12
Woody Paige
The United States, and probably in the world because of the number of victories she's had in World Cup kind of achievements. But she has really struggled and I thought about her last night watching one of the events, and I'm watching a lot of Simone Biles was, her husband, the former Jonathan.
00;18;29;12 - 00;18;30;11
Speaker 3
Oh yeah.
00;18;30;14 - 00;18;48;28
Woody Paige
And they were in and I remember when she went through what, the twisties. And I think that, for a lot of American women athletes that they go through more,
00;18;49;00 - 00;19;00;21
Woody Paige
Issues. I don't know how to describe this. I don't want to say mental health issues. That's too strong. But they go through, they get on a big stage like this, and they just really have some struggles. So I think.
00;19;00;21 - 00;19;02;29
Tom Green
They face a lot more external.
00;19;03;01 - 00;19;04;17
Speaker 3
Pressure. Yeah. Oh, woman.
00;19;04;23 - 00;19;05;28
Speaker 5
Is more difficult.
00;19;05;28 - 00;19;13;23
Woody Paige
Yeah. That a guy's not getting it like, not getting the feedback for some reason because we don't expect.
00;19;13;23 - 00;19;18;26
Ron Zappolo
And women always have the harder road. Yeah. Just about everything.
00;19;18;26 - 00;19;22;11
Tom Green
Skiing uphill is hard. Although we saw that one cross-country guy.
00;19;22;14 - 00;19;23;28
Ron Zappolo
You know, not watching a lot of.
00;19;24;00 - 00;19;27;17
Woody Paige
Guys trying to come back from last week when so many people hated.
00;19;27;19 - 00;19;28;04
Speaker 3
You said.
00;19;28;04 - 00;19;28;17
Woody Paige
Last week.
00;19;28;17 - 00;19;35;17
Ron Zappolo
No, no, no, I'm proud to say there were a lot of people that liked it and a few people that didn't. And I said, I welcome you.
00;19;35;18 - 00;19;38;23
Woody Paige
I didn't, I didn't see the people that liked it. We're just like.
00;19;38;28 - 00;19;40;02
Ron Zappolo
Listen, I did a lot.
00;19;40;03 - 00;19;45;15
Woody Paige
I got I saw how were people picking on me for what you said? That's what so maybe it's.
00;19;45;19 - 00;20;09;02
Ron Zappolo
Hey, I'm taking up your role. I didn't watch the Olympics last night. I watched the Houston Iowa State basketball game, which was absolutely incredible. And I'm an NBA fan. But I got to admit, this particular season in college basketball has been sensational. And while we're at it, a shout out to see you who went into, BYU went to BYU the other day.
00;20;09;04 - 00;20;22;22
Ron Zappolo
I want to say they were, 16, 17, 18 point underdog. Played their asses off. Should have won the game. Lost in overtime. They were down of gas. But, you know, Ted Boyle's playing a bunch of kids. They're doing a good job.
00;20;22;24 - 00;20;27;19
Woody Paige
Do you find it task? Yeah, and I like him. I've liked him since he was in high school.
00;20;27;20 - 00;20;28;22
Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
00;20;28;24 - 00;20;43;11
Woody Paige
That he people. Except what he. If he's having a bad year. Nobody trying to run him off. Nobody's trying to nobody criticizes him to an extent that we see about the football. But is that.
00;20;43;11 - 00;20;47;18
Tom Green
A lack of expectations? They live with that as a as a no. One knows football.
00;20;47;23 - 00;20;50;09
Woody Paige
And when I say one of us, he grew up in Colorado.
00;20;50;10 - 00;20;51;04
Ron Zappolo
He went to Greeley.
00;20;51;04 - 00;21;03;17
Woody Paige
Central. Good guy, great college player or good college player at Kansas. Has to a difficult place to recruit. He has.
00;21;03;19 - 00;21;04;21
Ron Zappolo
Done it.
00;21;04;23 - 00;21;06;25
Woody Paige
To Chauncey Billups of the world and.
00;21;06;25 - 00;21;08;13
Tom Green
Well, Chauncey was Ricardo Patton.
00;21;08;19 - 00;21;09;24
Woody Paige
Was, you know, before he.
00;21;09;24 - 00;21;10;17
Tom Green
Recruited him.
00;21;10;17 - 00;21;17;24
Woody Paige
But thank you. I was be corrected. But he's put, he's done getting better. So yeah, I mean, he's.
00;21;18;00 - 00;21;18;14
Tom Green
Oh 7.
00;21;18;14 - 00;21;20;20
Woody Paige
Or 8, nine players that.
00;21;20;20 - 00;21;38;00
Ron Zappolo
He's. Yes. And he's been great about that. Woody. That's a great point because he has consistently said, I'm not going to lie to a kid if he's got NBA ability, could it help me if the kid would stay? Certainly. But if a kid's got a chance to be a first round pick and make a lot of money, I always tell him to go.
00;21;38;04 - 00;21;57;19
Ron Zappolo
And I respect that. And I like him, too. And it makes me feel old because I remember when I was working at channel four, I remember with Dave Logan, he and I doing the high school basketball playoffs at McNichols Sports Arena and doing a game involving the in the five day finals, Tad Boyle.
00;21;57;21 - 00;21;58;28
Tom Green
So today it's.
00;21;58;28 - 00;21;59;27
Ron Zappolo
Yeah. But it makeshift.
00;21;59;28 - 00;22;07;06
Tom Green
He had as I remember he had because now he doesn't have a great deal of hair and not too much rock and a bit of a pull back.
00;22;07;06 - 00;22;17;12
Ron Zappolo
And it's funny, we're talking about Ted. I think he's been an underrated coach. I think there was a time when he could have gone to UCLA and wanted to stay at See You.
00;22;17;14 - 00;22;30;17
Tom Green
And that's the thing you got to remember. If you're C you if you go and get, you know, we watch Nico Medved go to CSU and really get that program going. But it be you become a stepping stone job for Nico was wanting to go to Minnesota.
00;22;30;17 - 00;22;42;20
Woody Paige
Out to Colorado. We don't talk much about it. Look at the three of us. We didn't come from here. We're not born here. Nope. But we drifted away. Are we in other places? We.
00;22;42;22 - 00;22;43;11
Ron Zappolo
And we like it.
00;22;43;11 - 00;22;53;25
Woody Paige
I think I just read a, a report saying that Colorado is losing more people for the first time in years. Where are you going, people? Where?
00;22;53;26 - 00;22;55;13
Tom Green
I think they'd be more dangerous places.
00;22;55;14 - 00;22;58;23
Speaker 5
The affordability, above anything else.
00;22;58;26 - 00;22;59;14
Ron Zappolo
That might just.
00;22;59;14 - 00;23;00;12
Speaker 5
Be priced out of.
00;23;00;13 - 00;23;01;21
Woody Paige
Here. Are they going.
00;23;01;22 - 00;23;02;24
Ron Zappolo
In somewhere that's more.
00;23;02;24 - 00;23;07;13
Speaker 5
Affordable? Arizona. Texas place? Yeah. Somewhere where? Oh, even.
00;23;07;13 - 00;23;12;27
Woody Paige
Why? Okay, my second question. Why are they going to those places? I mean.
00;23;12;29 - 00;23;19;22
Speaker 5
Because they can't afford to live here. I know you as a rich older person.
00;23;19;24 - 00;23;21;07
Speaker 3
There's little.
00;23;21;09 - 00;23;22;25
Ron Zappolo
Let's just sit here and listen.
00;23;22;26 - 00;23;24;07
Woody Paige
Rich elder person.
00;23;24;07 - 00;23;26;11
Speaker 3
Rich elder person. You know.
00;23;26;11 - 00;23;27;07
Ron Zappolo
What he I don't you.
00;23;27;07 - 00;23;33;21
Woody Paige
Like, I think I think at the the other night I went to bonefish. I think that's a martini ahead. Rich.
00;23;33;24 - 00;23;38;00
Ron Zappolo
I've never heard you described as a rich elder person.
00;23;38;03 - 00;23;38;22
Speaker 3
And I thought, I don't.
00;23;38;22 - 00;23;39;19
Ron Zappolo
Know if that's a church.
00;23;39;19 - 00;23;40;10
Tom Green
And I thought that was.
00;23;40;17 - 00;23;41;14
Speaker 5
Really a compliment.
00;23;41;14 - 00;23;43;06
Speaker 3
Right. It was. It was.
00;23;43;06 - 00;23;44;19
Tom Green
A polite version of what was probably.
00;23;44;19 - 00;23;45;01
Speaker 3
Actually.
00;23;45;07 - 00;23;46;02
Ron Zappolo
A rich.
00;23;46;05 - 00;23;47;21
Speaker 3
Older person.
00;23;47;23 - 00;23;49;25
Woody Paige
What would you rather be?
00;23;49;28 - 00;23;53;00
Woody Paige
Me, a rich elder person? Are you a poor? Yeah.
00;23;53;02 - 00;23;57;08
Speaker 5
Oh, absolutely. You. That's what I was going to say. Like,
00;23;57;11 - 00;23;57;20
Speaker 3
But I'm.
00;23;57;22 - 00;23;58;29
Ron Zappolo
Not. Where are we going?
00;23;59;01 - 00;24;06;27
Woody Paige
That's a reason why I bought a house in Arizona, and I hated that. That was terrible. See, if you noticed the weather.
00;24;06;27 - 00;24;09;24
Ron Zappolo
And what did they do? Like, I.
00;24;09;24 - 00;24;13;12
Woody Paige
Didn't like the people. I didn't like the politics. I didn't like.
00;24;13;15 - 00;24;14;10
Speaker 3
That.
00;24;14;13 - 00;24;16;12
Woody Paige
I didn't like,
00;24;16;15 - 00;24;18;15
Ron Zappolo
The golf getting pretty much covered.
00;24;18;15 - 00;24;20;03
Woody Paige
Can't hit it for you.
00;24;20;03 - 00;24;22;02
Ron Zappolo
Covered everything.
00;24;22;05 - 00;24;23;24
Speaker 3
Good thing he got out of there. Well, I.
00;24;23;26 - 00;24;24;16
Woody Paige
Well, there was a.
00;24;24;16 - 00;24;26;28
Ron Zappolo
Worse. I like going to the beach.
00;24;27;00 - 00;24;27;28
Speaker 3
Yeah. Quick getaway.
00;24;28;05 - 00;24;28;24
Ron Zappolo
Getaway.
00;24;28;27 - 00;24;29;21
Speaker 3
Hot I do.
00;24;29;21 - 00;24;30;09
Woody Paige
So hot.
00;24;30;09 - 00;24;31;05
Ron Zappolo
I wouldn't want to live there.
00;24;31;08 - 00;24;31;17
Tom Green
I want to be.
00;24;31;21 - 00;24;32;22
Woody Paige
Cold in the winter.
00;24;32;22 - 00;24;58;27
Tom Green
I want to wrap up the Olympics with a couple of quick thoughts. One is, I just have always loved Mikaela Shiffrin is commentary on her life. I think she's always been so free and cheering about struggles and about success. She's been graceful in both ways. Last week we saw the world build up for Elia mountain, and then it led to, catastrophic final performance for him.
00;24;59;00 - 00;25;24;03
Tom Green
He then went and answered almost every question, and he did it far beyond his years as a sane young man who, instead of believing all the hype about himself, probably is all too aware of how difficult his sport is to execute, especially in that type of pressure. I thought he was as brilliant after his failure as he was in his short program.
00;25;24;03 - 00;25;37;01
Woody Paige
That if. How would you like to go through life? I mean, if you're I'm just going to throw out Babe Ruth. But Babe Ruth said the greatest of all time. But you're called the quad.
00;25;37;01 - 00;25;38;19
Ron Zappolo
The God I, the quad.
00;25;38;24 - 00;25;40;21
Woody Paige
You're on the quad.
00;25;40;23 - 00;25;41;24
Tom Green
But how about this for a sport.
00;25;41;29 - 00;25;42;29
Woody Paige
Any other sport.
00;25;43;01 - 00;25;50;28
Tom Green
Let's say, let's say you go out there and you're supposed to be the greatest at it, and this is your stage, and you're going to win the gold medal. And you fall doing that.
00;25;51;01 - 00;25;53;13
Ron Zappolo
And you've trained for years for one.
00;25;53;13 - 00;25;57;19
Tom Green
But moment the music continues. You now have already.
00;25;57;21 - 00;25;59;19
Ron Zappolo
Taught in the music always, but you've.
00;25;59;19 - 00;26;06;19
Tom Green
Already lost. And now you got to go try it again and again. And that music is going to keep going. It's like life and you can't keep spinning.
00;26;06;19 - 00;26;10;17
Ron Zappolo
You learn more about people in adversity. They do. And success. Well, we've.
00;26;10;17 - 00;26;13;09
Tom Green
Learned a lot about him. Yes, I thought he was.
00;26;13;10 - 00;26;29;22
Ron Zappolo
How many times have we covered events, the three of us, over a combined 100 and some odd years where it was maybe somebody we liked and we went into a locker room or whatever it was, and we walked out and said, I'm disappointed in such. And he.
00;26;29;22 - 00;26;30;16
Tom Green
Wouldn't talk or.
00;26;30;20 - 00;26;54;26
Ron Zappolo
Or he was upset or he blamed somebody else for he wouldn't speak. And then, conversely, how many times did we walk into a locker room? Maybe it was somebody we weren't that fond of who stood there and face the music? Yeah, way. And people don't realize when I say face the music, wave after wave after wave of reporters and stand there and be accountable.
00;26;54;26 - 00;27;05;15
Tom Green
But is it in a team sport? You're asked to do that so that other guys on your team don't have to answer for you or for the team? In an individual sport, it's you.
00;27;05;15 - 00;27;06;11
Ron Zappolo
You got to do it.
00;27;06;16 - 00;27;23;26
Tom Green
Although I got to tell you my one of my favorite interview blow offs I ever had, you've heard this from me before is like early mid 80s Lakers were in town. Go over to McNichols arena, got to get some sound and we go walking into the Laker locker room and I walk over to A.C. green and A.C. is sitting down there.
00;27;23;26 - 00;27;38;26
Tom Green
He's got a nice bag on his knee. I said, AC, can we talk to you for a second? And he looks up at me with that disgusting, bored look on his face, and he goes, man, I'm icing. Well, there's no way we could have a conversation.
00;27;38;26 - 00;27;44;11
Ron Zappolo
And conversely, Magic Johnson, no matter when you went to him, hey, what do you need?
00;27;44;11 - 00;27;44;26
Speaker 3
What do you need?
00;27;45;00 - 00;27;47;17
Ron Zappolo
What do you need? Yeah. How can I help you out?
00;27;47;18 - 00;27;54;29
Woody Paige
There was a Rockies pitcher, one of their most famous, which didn't take much, but, Ernie Cook.
00;27;55;01 - 00;27;56;20
Speaker 3
Aaron Cook, right hander.
00;27;56;25 - 00;28;21;14
Woody Paige
I went in and did a, What? I felt like a good hour with him, his history and how great. And and Patrick Saunders, who still covered the Rockies for the Rocky Mountain, who said, you know, you gotta write when the cookie crumbles, you gotta write. Go there. I said, no, no, no, no. So I get through with it and there's a Final Four game or something because the players would be better.
00;28;21;21 - 00;28;24;23
Woody Paige
But on that.
00;28;24;25 - 00;28;35;26
Woody Paige
It was not a legal battle just in the locker room. And so I'm watching the final four and I hear this voice behind me say, get the fuck out of the way. This is a guy. Just interview for an hour.
00;28;35;28 - 00;28;42;10
Speaker 3
Nicest guy in the whole world is this. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, but I wish we.
00;28;42;10 - 00;28;43;03
Ron Zappolo
Could sit here and.
00;28;43;05 - 00;28;43;16
Woody Paige
Do that.
00;28;43;16 - 00;29;02;21
Ron Zappolo
Turn to the three of us. We could do an hour and a half here on people who have treated us poorly in locker rooms and people who have been spectacular, like my kids would always ask me, who is your all time favorite Denver Broncos? I said, I can answer that quickly. You want me to? They go, yeah, I said, Tom Jackson.
00;29;02;27 - 00;29;03;07
Tom Green
Yeah.
00;29;03;08 - 00;29;28;22
Ron Zappolo
How come? Because Tom Jackson was available 100% of the time, was a wonderful human being spoke when they won their biggest games and also spoke when they got their ass kicked in the Super Bowl. And I'll never forget when you retired. I'm standing there next to him. He's about to go out and meet the media, and he says he gets up there and he says, any of you guys know a job where you can make $300,000 a year?
00;29;28;25 - 00;29;34;16
Ron Zappolo
That shows you how times have changed. And I'm thrilled that he ended up getting a job where he made a lot.
00;29;34;16 - 00;29;35;04
Tom Green
More great.
00;29;35;06 - 00;29;36;17
Ron Zappolo
Because he deserved it.
00;29;36;20 - 00;29;41;02
Woody Paige
Well, and I just a quick Tom Jackson story. I wrote this article.
00;29;41;03 - 00;29;42;04
Ron Zappolo
You wrote the book.
00;29;42;06 - 00;29;58;21
Woody Paige
And, when I got through, I sent it to him. He was living in evergreen, up in the mountains. And I said, here's a book. Go through it. Tell me anything. Because that kind of, you know, twisted some things that he said. And I called him a week later and I said, so what do you want to change in the book?
00;29;58;23 - 00;30;15;14
Woody Paige
Perfect, perfect, perfect. I said, you didn't read it, did you? Yeah, I went through with it. So I called him like three weeks later. I said, really? Have you read it? Oh yeah. Don't change anything. The book is one week from coming out and he calls me and he said, I need to change something.
00;30;15;14 - 00;30;16;27
Speaker 3
In the book. And I.
00;30;16;27 - 00;30;29;19
Woody Paige
Said, at this late date, I said, you finally got around to reading. Well, sort of. I said, what do you want to change? He said, my dedication is to my girlfriend. Darla said, yeah, change that to.
00;30;29;19 - 00;30;33;22
Speaker 3
Suzy. That.
00;30;33;24 - 00;30;40;06
Speaker 3
Or or just leave it as a blank. Oh no, I read it, Tommy announced.
00;30;40;08 - 00;30;42;26
Tom Green
Like, oh, come on. In addition to my tattoo.
00;30;42;27 - 00;30;45;05
Speaker 3
Never read the book, but he.
00;30;45;07 - 00;30;50;11
Woody Paige
He did know the dedication. You know, I dedicated to my mother. He dedicated.
00;30;50;11 - 00;30;51;25
Ron Zappolo
To to Darla.
00;30;51;27 - 00;30;54;09
Woody Paige
Who would away as you know, he.
00;30;54;09 - 00;31;04;28
Ron Zappolo
Would come back from time to time with ESPN and I would lose contact with him, and he would go to the Broncos. And from 30 yards away, he might see.
00;31;04;28 - 00;31;05;26
Tom Green
Me pick it right up.
00;31;05;26 - 00;31;13;16
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, man, never walk over a hug. What's going on, my man with what are you doing as a fan? He's just a wonderful human being.
00;31;13;17 - 00;31;28;04
Woody Paige
But he came when I was inducted in the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame. He came back because we had a great friendship, like you were talking about. And we're in the bar before. And he comes over and he said. Please don't tell that story. We would would smoke dope.
00;31;28;04 - 00;31;29;08
Speaker 3
But yeah.
00;31;29;11 - 00;31;31;08
Tom Green
Well, so you had.
00;31;31;09 - 00;31;44;08
Ron Zappolo
You had it in the book. And I remember this where we were up in Greeley and only Tom could do this. He'd walk out in the afternoon, know 100 degrees, kind of look up, look around. Go ahead, finish it.
00;31;44;10 - 00;31;44;29
Woody Paige
I mean, say.
00;31;45;04 - 00;31;45;17
Ron Zappolo
I think.
00;31;45;17 - 00;31;46;03
Speaker 3
I'm.
00;31;46;05 - 00;31;48;04
Woody Paige
I'm getting a heavier day.
00;31;48;06 - 00;31;49;21
Speaker 3
And so he.
00;31;49;23 - 00;31;52;06
Woody Paige
Start practice at about the third play, grab his.
00;31;52;06 - 00;31;53;13
Ron Zappolo
Hamstring, hamstring.
00;31;53;15 - 00;32;16;08
Woody Paige
And he'd slip off and he'd look over and wink at me and he'd point. And he what he was pointing to is he'd gotten a new Corvette and he wanted me to that he was going to change up his clothes, take a shower or whatever. He did not take a shower. He'd only played three days and we'd get in and he said, you gotta listen to, Luther Vandross.
00;32;16;11 - 00;32;16;27
Woody Paige
We could tell.
00;32;16;27 - 00;32;18;06
Ron Zappolo
Stories about him.
00;32;18;11 - 00;32;24;06
Tom Green
Well, he used to be that great, but he made it famous on ESPN. That segment that now would be called. He got flagged.
00;32;24;06 - 00;32;25;00
Ron Zappolo
Yes.
00;32;25;02 - 00;32;26;20
Tom Green
He got jacked up. Yeah.
00;32;26;21 - 00;32;31;01
Woody Paige
Jacked up down this. You can't even use that anymore because it looked like. I mean.
00;32;31;07 - 00;32;37;11
Ron Zappolo
How many guys run by John Madden when they're beating them in the AFC champ. Take that fat man.
00;32;37;15 - 00;32;38;06
Tom Green
It's it's.
00;32;38;09 - 00;32;39;05
Woody Paige
All over fat.
00;32;39;05 - 00;32;40;14
Ron Zappolo
All over fat man.
00;32;40;14 - 00;33;00;11
Tom Green
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00;33;54;00 - 00;34;00;03
Woody Paige
Before the night before we do these shows and we've done 3737.
00;34;00;05 - 00;34;01;04
Ron Zappolo
Of that.
00;34;01;06 - 00;34;05;25
Woody Paige
I write I just write to my free flowing ideas of things that.
00;34;05;25 - 00;34;07;10
Ron Zappolo
I think, and they're much appreciated.
00;34;07;10 - 00;34;08;26
Speaker 3
The good stuff. And I and.
00;34;08;26 - 00;34;14;29
Woody Paige
I so proud that Ron finally read that.
00;34;15;02 - 00;34;15;18
Speaker 3
Text.
00;34;15;18 - 00;34;16;24
Woody Paige
That I send out for you.
00;34;16;28 - 00;34;18;28
Ron Zappolo
I always really saw it was more and.
00;34;18;28 - 00;34;19;11
Speaker 3
More, and.
00;34;19;11 - 00;34;23;12
Woody Paige
I actually did some research on that. And that's the first time he's ever.
00;34;23;12 - 00;34;26;03
Speaker 3
Like Jackson reading his book is the first time.
00;34;26;04 - 00;34;27;24
Ron Zappolo
Like it's the first time. But.
00;34;27;26 - 00;34;28;28
Speaker 3
You know, if I sit.
00;34;28;28 - 00;34;35;03
Woody Paige
Down at night and I go, I know Tom. Tom would say, oh, that's a good idea. And, and, and all of us.
00;34;35;06 - 00;34;36;15
Speaker 3
Turn away and go, that's terrible.
00;34;36;15 - 00;34;40;01
Ron Zappolo
That's good. Yeah. I saw a couple other things, you know, 14 years.
00;34;40;03 - 00;34;44;18
Woody Paige
And she'll say, oh, that's some good subjects. He finally liked the subject.
00;34;44;23 - 00;34;55;18
Ron Zappolo
Hey, you know, I did write down Jesse Jackson and Robert Duvall. You know what else I wrote down? Ronda Rousey, who's coming out of retirement to fight Gina Carano in an email.
00;34;55;19 - 00;34;56;14
Woody Paige
I saw that.
00;34;56;17 - 00;34;59;15
Tom Green
They both nearer to 40 than 30.
00;34;59;21 - 00;35;03;03
Ron Zappolo
They're both, okay. Ronda Rousey is 39.
00;35;03;03 - 00;35;04;03
Tom Green
Yeah, it's near for,
00;35;04;05 - 00;35;07;26
Ron Zappolo
Gina Carano is like 43 or very.
00;35;07;26 - 00;35;08;18
Tom Green
Near 40.
00;35;08;18 - 00;35;11;15
Ron Zappolo
What is the deal? Is there a mark? I guess you know what it could be?
00;35;11;15 - 00;35;13;28
Tom Green
It could be one of those deals where they're paying them.
00;35;14;00 - 00;35;26;00
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, maybe it'd be a lot of it's going to be on Netflix. So hopefully if I, if I do three 4340 I just say that if it's on Netflix, if the thing doesn't buffer, I might.
00;35;26;03 - 00;35;26;19
Speaker 3
Be.
00;35;26;19 - 00;35;31;15
Tom Green
Well, we'll see it. Hey, before we get if you want to watch 40 year old women fight.
00;35;31;17 - 00;35;34;17
Ron Zappolo
Well, I don't like women fighting.
00;35;34;20 - 00;35;35;19
Woody Paige
You know, I'm not.
00;35;35;27 - 00;35;37;29
Ron Zappolo
Keen about women getting in the ring.
00;35;37;29 - 00;35;44;11
Tom Green
I prefer that they've done it now. In high school, the young women who get to wrestle. I think wrestling because.
00;35;44;11 - 00;35;44;25
Speaker 3
I,
00;35;45;00 - 00;35;46;15
Tom Green
That's a strength, not a.
00;35;46;15 - 00;35;50;01
Woody Paige
Beat. Not in the women fight. Because I've been on the other side.
00;35;50;01 - 00;35;52;11
Speaker 3
Of the fence on the wrong end of a.
00;35;52;11 - 00;35;54;00
Woody Paige
Beating 5 or 6 times. Oh, I.
00;35;54;00 - 00;36;16;08
Ron Zappolo
Had another thing, too. And this is I didn't what do you didn't bring this up? But this is like one sentence from you guys. So I never watched the NBA All-Star game because it's an absolute embarrassment to the players involved. But I read and saw the highlights about what they did on Sunday. Are they headed for the first time in years down the right track with this or.
00;36;16;08 - 00;36;17;03
Tom Green
No, I didn't I didn't.
00;36;17;08 - 00;36;21;15
Woody Paige
Okay, so as the only person here to actually watch it, sports events, I.
00;36;21;15 - 00;36;22;23
Ron Zappolo
Watched it. Did you watch.
00;36;22;23 - 00;36;27;14
Woody Paige
It? Yeah. Yeah, I saw the all important I mean, you want to see the US team?
00;36;27;16 - 00;36;29;00
Ron Zappolo
I watch a lot of NBA games.
00;36;29;00 - 00;36;31;25
Woody Paige
I'm not versus the world. You know I got to watch the world.
00;36;31;25 - 00;36;32;10
Ron Zappolo
The world.
00;36;32;14 - 00;36;34;26
Woody Paige
And you probably don't even know there was a younger team.
00;36;34;26 - 00;36;38;24
Ron Zappolo
Yes, I followed this. There was an older there was a star Kawhi Leonard.
00;36;38;25 - 00;36;54;05
Woody Paige
Right, right. And then there was a world team. Yes. Yo could should look at don't care. They want to sit there and just yeah they didn't talk to each other. Yeah I don't know anything about it. This is the first time forget the Pro Bowl sand game.
00;36;54;06 - 00;36;57;11
Speaker 3
Right. The flag in the sandbox.
00;36;57;13 - 00;37;17;12
Woody Paige
The hockey games. Even though they've tried different things, it's still like 18 to 6 in those games. Yeah. In baseball, I said to someone over the weekend, baseball has a real game. I like baseball's the best because you don't have to worry about getting hurt. You can just pitch for an inning and you can play three.
00;37;17;12 - 00;37;28;19
Woody Paige
But this is a chance the NBA's come up with a chance which they stole from hockey. That was fine with that, invitational thing. Yeah, this is good. This. You like it?
00;37;28;25 - 00;37;29;21
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, I'm gonna try.
00;37;29;25 - 00;37;34;06
Woody Paige
They play and even Kawhi Leonard of all people said, man, I think Kevin.
00;37;34;06 - 00;37;35;28
Ron Zappolo
Durant highlights Kevin Durant's.
00;37;36;04 - 00;37;37;01
Woody Paige
World or something.
00;37;37;01 - 00;37;42;08
Ron Zappolo
Here. And I heard that, a couple of those guys gave Wembanyama a lot of credit.
00;37;42;09 - 00;37;42;17
Tom Green
Yeah.
00;37;42;17 - 00;37;49;21
Ron Zappolo
For competing because he said it and said, no, I'm not going to I'm competing. I'm going to block your shot. I'm not going to let you just dunk. Good for.
00;37;49;21 - 00;37;56;10
Tom Green
Him. They also got good TV numbers. But I also think that they were really carried into the event by the Olympics.
00;37;56;12 - 00;37;57;24
Ron Zappolo
And I'm glad they.
00;37;57;24 - 00;38;05;09
Woody Paige
Were playing 12 minutes. They were playing 12 minutes, but it was all out. It was good. They didn't have to worry about.
00;38;05;11 - 00;38;06;02
Woody Paige
You know, I'm going to.
00;38;06;05 - 00;38;06;12
Ron Zappolo
Be I'll.
00;38;06;12 - 00;38;18;12
Woody Paige
Watch it and I can guard a little bit. And I thought they found it. They have figured out the way to play this. Even.
00;38;18;15 - 00;38;23;00
Woody Paige
Durand, I think, said we could go back to East and West under this circumstance.
00;38;23;00 - 00;38;23;10
Ron Zappolo
Under.
00;38;23;17 - 00;38;29;24
Woody Paige
Yeah, but, if you don't watch it, it's not that great. I mean, it's not, but it was Larry Bird versus Magic Johnson.
00;38;29;24 - 00;38;30;14
Ron Zappolo
It was better.
00;38;30;14 - 00;38;35;07
Woody Paige
It was. It was something worthy of not wasting your time.
00;38;35;07 - 00;39;02;22
Ron Zappolo
I also saw something else that came out of that. The piqued my interest. Jaylen Brown, who might win the MVP this year, said, hey, listen, instead of the Or in addition to the slam dunk and the three point shot, we should have a one on one contest. No, take the 12 best players. He goes, I would love to go up one on one against Luka or Durant.
00;39;02;27 - 00;39;06;05
Ron Zappolo
And I thought or SGA and I thought that would be enough.
00;39;06;06 - 00;39;16;17
Tom Green
Well you remember the early 70s. They used to do the halftime. They have an old thing. They they'd shot it in the preseason. The one on one. Yeah. See like Bob McAdoo that's taking on Pete Maravich.
00;39;16;17 - 00;39;29;18
Ron Zappolo
It was like the red on round ball kind of yeah. Little half yeah I think at the All-Star game if on Saturday you had two of the five best players in the world going one on one first got a 6 or 7 wins. That might be interesting.
00;39;29;20 - 00;39;30;11
Woody Paige
Do you really.
00;39;30;11 - 00;39;31;21
Speaker 3
Though.
00;39;31;23 - 00;39;36;25
Woody Paige
Who's the best player in the world right now? Yeah. Who's the best player in Europe.
00;39;36;27 - 00;39;40;04
Tom Green
Jokic in a five on five game.
00;39;40;07 - 00;39;41;16
Woody Paige
But one on one well.
00;39;41;16 - 00;39;46;29
Ron Zappolo
But yeah but wouldn't you like to see SGA against Jaylen Brown one on.
00;39;46;29 - 00;39;53;25
Tom Green
One. Well that's when when they on CBS back in the 70s they would you'd see mismatches of you wouldn't.
00;39;53;28 - 00;39;58;26
Ron Zappolo
Be small I wouldn't mind seeing Steph Curry and Jamal Murray go one on one.
00;39;58;28 - 00;40;03;20
Woody Paige
Well and still I guess old as you talk.
00;40;03;20 - 00;40;07;05
Ron Zappolo
To him you are and you're older elder. You're my.
00;40;07;05 - 00;40;09;02
Woody Paige
Favorite sports of it was the home Run.
00;40;09;02 - 00;40;09;19
Ron Zappolo
Derby.
00;40;09;19 - 00;40;10;10
Woody Paige
Yeah. Of the.
00;40;10;10 - 00;40;12;22
Tom Green
1951 63 ball.
00;40;12;22 - 00;40;14;21
Speaker 3
Field. Oh, that's what I.
00;40;14;24 - 00;40;22;20
Ron Zappolo
Think you're talking about. This one. You're talking about the one from our day. They'd shoot it when they would go to Crosby Field in Cincinnati.
00;40;22;20 - 00;40;23;21
Woody Paige
Oh, no, it was.
00;40;23;23 - 00;40;28;08
Ron Zappolo
It was in a field in L.A. It was Wrigley Field. I've been at that ballpark.
00;40;28;08 - 00;40;29;07
Speaker 3
And Willie Mays.
00;40;29;07 - 00;40;30;23
Ron Zappolo
Hank Aaron against Willie Mays.
00;40;30;23 - 00;40;36;06
Woody Paige
Willie Mays against Mickey Mantle, and the announcer sat at a card table. Yeah, yeah, the microphone.
00;40;36;06 - 00;40;39;08
Speaker 3
Whoever was hitting was sitting with them and with them. Yeah. Well, Harmon.
00;40;39;08 - 00;40;39;24
Tom Green
What do you think?
00;40;39;24 - 00;40;41;14
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, well, it's going to be tough.
00;40;41;14 - 00;40;43;18
Woody Paige
I know they got like $500.
00;40;43;20 - 00;40;44;21
Ron Zappolo
They might still have those.
00;40;44;24 - 00;40;46;24
Tom Green
Remember, if I tell us and Bill Kramer.
00;40;46;24 - 00;40;47;19
Speaker 3
Also.
00;40;47;22 - 00;40;50;02
Tom Green
Big things that sell the product.
00;40;50;02 - 00;40;57;04
Woody Paige
But it's, Mickey Mantle be sitting there. Billy would be up and he go, oh, Willie just missed a home run or they're waiting. Mick.
00;40;57;07 - 00;40;58;16
Ron Zappolo
Mick was looking for a clock.
00;40;58;16 - 00;41;04;05
Woody Paige
Good swing. Yeah, I thought that. And they bring it back occasionally on some.
00;41;04;05 - 00;41;06;07
Ron Zappolo
But they haven't brought it back because I've.
00;41;06;07 - 00;41;07;07
Tom Green
Seen it. Oh, yeah.
00;41;07;07 - 00;41;17;26
Woody Paige
It's out if you haven't. If you're out there and you've never seen the it's great Home Run Derby. It's takes place in Wrigley Field. But it's not the Wrigley Field in Chicago. But Wrigley also built the same kind of.
00;41;17;27 - 00;41;23;26
Ron Zappolo
It's it's the report. It's the Wrigley Field in LA where the angels, when they were boys, played their first.
00;41;24;00 - 00;41;29;17
Woody Paige
And it was in a neighborhood, too, like the one in Wrigley Field. Yes. You could see like, middle class houses.
00;41;29;20 - 00;41;39;04
Tom Green
So back to basketball. I was thinking, you know, you're the one on one thing that they did in the early 70s. They also did. And again, they'd shoot it in the off season or something. Was horse. Oh, yeah.
00;41;39;04 - 00;41;41;14
Speaker 3
Horse might not play horses.
00;41;41;14 - 00;41;42;10
Speaker 5
So fun.
00;41;42;11 - 00;41;44;14
Woody Paige
You guys were part of.
00;41;44;17 - 00;41;45;13
Speaker 3
Caitlyn Clark.
00;41;45;13 - 00;41;55;13
Woody Paige
70. Yeah. But 76 when the slam dunk contest was here they never duplicated. No don't never taking off at the.
00;41;55;16 - 00;42;03;23
Tom Green
End of the NBA. Did have when they used to have Jordan and Dominique and the best players in the game and the best dunkers in the game were the same guys. Now it's Mac McCollum.
00;42;03;24 - 00;42;06;15
Ron Zappolo
Let's get to the Broncos. So I don't know I don't know what it was all this.
00;42;06;22 - 00;42;09;02
Tom Green
Yeah well maybe I saw notes here.
00;42;09;06 - 00;42;12;12
Woody Paige
But I just say having watched it I watched two of them.
00;42;12;13 - 00;42;13;12
Ron Zappolo
You were impressed with it.
00;42;13;13 - 00;42;15;28
Woody Paige
I thought this is something. If you're going to do it.
00;42;16;03 - 00;42;16;18
Ron Zappolo
Do it like.
00;42;16;21 - 00;42;20;02
Woody Paige
The one that you do. They got people interested. Because anything.
00;42;20;02 - 00;42;21;00
Ron Zappolo
That makes them play.
00;42;21;01 - 00;42;24;25
Tom Green
As opposed to food, because they've come up with a proper, yeah, the way to go.
00;42;24;29 - 00;42;28;08
Woody Paige
The world team had an interest in it because you know we.
00;42;28;10 - 00;42;29;00
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00;42;29;03 - 00;42;38;22
Woody Paige
There's they've won the last what seven MVP. And so the the older guys want to prove that they can beat the world team. The younger guys are just having fun.
00;42;38;22 - 00;42;43;25
Ron Zappolo
And now their next problem is they said we're going to deal with the tanking issue. Yeah. Which is becoming really bad.
00;42;43;25 - 00;42;49;15
Tom Green
What else would be good though? Because if you have the three teams, what if you had like a team of rich elderly guys.
00;42;49;18 - 00;42;51;28
Ron Zappolo
Like coached by a rich elderly guy.
00;42;52;01 - 00;42;52;20
Woody Paige
Or at least a.
00;42;52;26 - 00;42;53;25
Ron Zappolo
Going to stay with you.
00;42;53;25 - 00;42;54;23
Woody Paige
The TV show that.
00;42;54;23 - 00;42;57;09
Speaker 3
Has rich. Oh, okay.
00;42;57;13 - 00;42;58;28
Woody Paige
All right.
00;42;59;00 - 00;42;59;23
Speaker 3
So my question.
00;42;59;23 - 00;43;01;24
Speaker 5
To old age and wealth okay. You give.
00;43;01;26 - 00;43;03;08
Ron Zappolo
Them your question because it was a good.
00;43;03;08 - 00;43;19;16
Woody Paige
Match. My question last night that I sent to the other two guys, I said, the Broncos now have about 25, $29 million. They've been freed up from Russell Wilson's contract. They can now go out on the market and not get guys that are health issue.
00;43;19;18 - 00;43;20;15
Tom Green
Right, like.
00;43;20;15 - 00;43;37;09
Woody Paige
They did like last year, but they can go out and really spend 20, $25 million on guys. And so my question to you was name of the three guys at and they would be at the positions they have most need for you spent time researching?
00;43;37;10 - 00;43;37;26
Ron Zappolo
I spent.
00;43;37;28 - 00;43;38;11
Woody Paige
We start.
00;43;38;11 - 00;43;39;10
Ron Zappolo
With you. Let me start.
00;43;39;16 - 00;43;40;09
Speaker 5
You got a guy I.
00;43;40;09 - 00;43;43;15
Ron Zappolo
Wrote stuff down. I mean, that's in my own way. It was like.
00;43;43;17 - 00;43;46;21
Woody Paige
He's not reading off a teleprompter like he did for 45.
00;43;46;21 - 00;43;49;27
Speaker 3
Years. Well, it's a fun game, rich. And not only.
00;43;49;27 - 00;44;08;11
Ron Zappolo
That's Cam and Richard, not only at Fox. I did the prompter sports. It was like, let me tell you what Alex English did tonight, okay? I went down. And the reason I'm qualified to do this, I've spent 30 years in a fantasy football league waiting for my blood because a former basketball coach in Denver got me into it.
00;44;08;15 - 00;44;12;29
Ron Zappolo
So I am well versed in skill position players and, you know.
00;44;13;00 - 00;44;13;17
Tom Green
Drafting.
00;44;13;17 - 00;44;19;29
Ron Zappolo
Them and drafting them. What is right. The two areas I looked at were tight end and wide receiver and I said three.
00;44;20;02 - 00;44;21;03
Woody Paige
Three and I go up.
00;44;21;03 - 00;44;42;06
Ron Zappolo
Well those were the I got three guys, but I think those are the two okay areas of big need. And let me go down the list. My tight ends I picked one and here's who I threw out Kyle Pitts is the best 190 catches last year. Almost 2000 yards five touchdowns. He's 25 years old. He's going to want 18 to 20 million over a long time.
00;44;42;06 - 00;45;01;22
Ron Zappolo
I'm throwing him out Dallas Goddard's a terrific tight end, 31 years old I think he's going to stay with the Eagles. David the joke who's a free agent with the Browns? He's not bad. But I don't know if he's a big upgrade from Evan Ingram. I settled on one guy and I really like him. And it's Isaiah likely of the Baltimore Ravens.
00;45;01;24 - 00;45;27;02
Ron Zappolo
He has shared that position with Mark Andrews who's a borderline Hall of Fame guy. But he's older. Isaiah likely has been terrific. And the problem is he's going to be a free agent. I think that he might want to go with John Harbaugh in New York, or he might want to go to with Todd Monken to Cleveland. But here's the deal, I think I think he's in that eight, $9 million a year area.
00;45;27;07 - 00;45;36;17
Ron Zappolo
I think if you offer him a three year deal, maybe 35 million guaranteed, I like Isaiah likely to come in here and be much better than what we've had.
00;45;36;17 - 00;45;37;21
Speaker 3
Let's go to the stop.
00;45;37;21 - 00;45;39;00
Ron Zappolo
You want to stop there?
00;45;39;03 - 00;45;44;03
Tom Green
Because I think two things. One, when I think of him, all I think about is that catch. There's a catch. There was a catch.
00;45;44;09 - 00;45;49;02
Ron Zappolo
That the total was like there was two more. The one in the one in the end zone, which was a catch.
00;45;49;09 - 00;45;49;27
Tom Green
It changed.
00;45;49;27 - 00;45;54;16
Ron Zappolo
A lot. And the other one where a part of his pinky was over the bears.
00;45;54;16 - 00;46;17;26
Tom Green
The real question if you're the Broncos and you need to fill positions with money inside linebacker, receiver, running back, maybe tight end, you have to make a decision. They have been so incompetent at making tight ends, make plays, and it may be that they've never had any talent in the position in ten years. Or is it? They're just not any good at getting the tight end.
00;46;17;26 - 00;46;33;00
Tom Green
The football. Why pay a tight end if you can't figure out if your quarterback doesn't like the tight end game, if you're okay, if you're head coach at this point, doesn't know how to get the tight end in space like so many other teams can do, I don't want to spend any money.
00;46;33;00 - 00;46;36;22
Ron Zappolo
Okay, I'll just counter that and say, when Sean Payton was with the Saints.
00;46;36;22 - 00;46;38;03
Tom Green
Great titled.
00;46;38;05 - 00;46;38;17
Ron Zappolo
The.
00;46;38;20 - 00;46;39;20
Tom Green
Great Grand.
00;46;39;23 - 00;46;42;11
Ron Zappolo
Durango, definitely he got the ball to the tight ends.
00;46;42;11 - 00;46;43;13
Speaker 3
That was then okay.
00;46;43;13 - 00;46;45;01
Ron Zappolo
So okay, but I, I.
00;46;45;01 - 00;46;48;12
Woody Paige
Don't respond to his, Isaiah likely.
00;46;48;14 - 00;47;03;07
Tom Green
I like likely a lot. I think he's a perfect fit. And I thought he's the case. Is he made on all those guys are accurate. Pitts I you know, he was a first round guy. He's going to get paid a lot of money, but he's going to be a high end high. He's going to cost too much.
00;47;03;07 - 00;47;08;00
Woody Paige
Rod said to me before we started. So we'll have some argument on this. My pick Isaiah.
00;47;08;00 - 00;47;09;09
Speaker 3
Like all.
00;47;09;09 - 00;47;12;05
Woody Paige
Three of us that he saw, I think he was making.
00;47;12;05 - 00;47;12;25
Ron Zappolo
Like, oh.
00;47;12;25 - 00;47;20;20
Woody Paige
You're 3 or $4 million a year. And I went, you could pay this guy $10 million. He's a good tight end. You didn't get to see him all the time. Joking.
00;47;20;22 - 00;47;23;26
Ron Zappolo
But we didn't discuss this beforehand. This is, I think.
00;47;24;00 - 00;47;26;24
Woody Paige
Likely is the most likely.
00;47;26;26 - 00;47;30;03
Speaker 5
Finally, I was like, when are we gonna get a punt?
00;47;30;05 - 00;47;31;19
Speaker 3
Yeah, I think, oh, I.
00;47;31;20 - 00;47;32;26
Woody Paige
Think you.
00;47;32;28 - 00;47;35;04
Speaker 3
That's what happens.
00;47;35;06 - 00;47;37;21
Woody Paige
Like, you didn't know you were injured.
00;47;37;24 - 00;47;39;04
Ron Zappolo
And you will get some I.
00;47;39;04 - 00;47;41;15
Woody Paige
Think likely is the guy, though.
00;47;41;17 - 00;47;42;29
Tom Green
Who can they get the tight end.
00;47;43;02 - 00;47;43;27
Speaker 3
He involved in there?
00;47;44;01 - 00;47;50;12
Woody Paige
He would be there. Yeah. You're right. Can you do it with anybody? Could you do it with Shannon Sharpe?
00;47;50;18 - 00;47;51;08
Tom Green
I mean, yeah, but.
00;47;51;09 - 00;47;58;12
Woody Paige
Think about it. Since Shannon Shark, who's in the Hall of Fame there really? I mean, there been a been a.
00;47;58;12 - 00;48;00;16
Tom Green
Good it's been a witness protection program.
00;48;00;23 - 00;48;02;04
Ron Zappolo
Really has been it's been.
00;48;02;04 - 00;48;14;08
Woody Paige
They went to the Big Ten year after year to year. But I looked at all of the tight ends that are available, free agents and six of them or guys that have played for the Broncos and didn't work out, you don't want to go there.
00;48;14;13 - 00;48;15;02
Tom Green
So who's.
00;48;15;02 - 00;48;16;14
Woody Paige
Now? We're agreeing on tight.
00;48;16;16 - 00;48;20;07
Ron Zappolo
Okay, that we're all agreed. And Titans, maybe we'll get some disagreement on the wide receivers.
00;48;20;09 - 00;48;21;18
Tom Green
I already disagree.
00;48;21;20 - 00;48;39;29
Ron Zappolo
Okay, well it's good. Here's a few guys that I threw out that are available Keenan Allen great player. Had a good year old 33 years old. Took the words out of my mouth. Wandell Robinson young player. He had 90 catches last year for a thousand yards. He's a slot guy who's going to make a lot of money.
00;48;39;29 - 00;48;40;27
Tom Green
Kind of another guy.
00;48;40;28 - 00;48;44;17
Ron Zappolo
He's just a guy who catches seven yard catches. I don't want.
00;48;44;17 - 00;48;45;07
Tom Green
You get a guy.
00;48;45;14 - 00;48;57;15
Ron Zappolo
Now I'm going to give you a few guys and I like two of them and I will. I will give them to you. And they're under the radar, guys, I think. And I'll give you my number one. Number one under the radar. Christian Kirk with Houston.
00;48;57;15 - 00;48;58;08
Tom Green
Terrific player.
00;48;58;13 - 00;49;00;25
Ron Zappolo
He really is. And he didn't have a great you sure.
00;49;00;25 - 00;49;03;09
Woody Paige
That's his name? Because Steve Smith went on.
00;49;03;09 - 00;49;04;05
Speaker 3
Loan and.
00;49;04;05 - 00;49;05;27
Woody Paige
Called him by another game.
00;49;06;00 - 00;49;24;21
Ron Zappolo
Well he had eight catches for a buck $50 in the playoffs. I really like him okay. Second guy I really like and this is a young guy. Kirk is 29, Romeo Dobbs and Green Bay is 25. He's had four straight years, 50 catches, 600 yards. It's going to cost a little more $1,213 million.
00;49;24;26 - 00;49;29;01
Tom Green
Because he been a difficult player teammate.
00;49;29;03 - 00;49;29;13
Speaker 3
You know.
00;49;29;13 - 00;49;30;16
Tom Green
He's had some issues I think.
00;49;30;16 - 00;49;32;19
Ron Zappolo
He's had a few issues. But all wide receivers.
00;49;32;19 - 00;49;33;15
Tom Green
I've had issues too.
00;49;33;21 - 00;49;35;14
Ron Zappolo
Every wide receiver has an issue.
00;49;35;19 - 00;49;37;09
Woody Paige
Everybody sitting in these chairs.
00;49;37;16 - 00;49;39;06
Speaker 3
Yeah. Now I'm gonna.
00;49;39;08 - 00;49;50;22
Ron Zappolo
Let me get to the two guys that I really like. And one of them is going to cost a lot. One of them I don't think will cost as much. Okay. I had this guy in my draft this year and I love this guy Rasheed Shaheed.
00;49;50;22 - 00;49;52;23
Tom Green
Boy, did he make a difference this year.
00;49;52;25 - 00;50;15;22
Ron Zappolo
You can do so much with him. He's 27 years old. He was terrific in New Orleans. They didn't want to pay him, so they traded him at the deadline to Seattle. He was one of the major cogs for Seattle. Only guy this year to return a punt and a kick for a touchdown. And every time they tried to take, Jackson Smith and the jig out of the game, Shaheed makes big catches.
00;50;15;26 - 00;50;18;16
Ron Zappolo
He's going to be 12 to 15 million.
00;50;18;19 - 00;50;21;05
Tom Green
Marvin Mims ish, though I think dislocating.
00;50;21;08 - 00;50;23;06
Ron Zappolo
He's a good Marvin.
00;50;23;06 - 00;50;23;19
Speaker 3
Moves.
00;50;23;19 - 00;50;25;12
Ron Zappolo
Yeah but he's more talented.
00;50;25;13 - 00;50;26;10
Tom Green
But a similar player.
00;50;26;11 - 00;50;46;18
Ron Zappolo
Similar kind of player. But he's only 27. But here is my one guy. This is it. I would go all in and I don't think a lot of people know about this guy, but I followed him. Alec Pierce. Oh who's played for the Indianapolis Colts, 25 years old. So he's young. Okay. Here's what I love about him, Woody, for the last two years, no one knows this.
00;50;46;26 - 00;50;59;02
Ron Zappolo
He has led the NFL in yards per catch yards. He'll go from Daniel Jones Anthony Richardson. And this guy is not making a lot of money.
00;50;59;06 - 00;51;00;07
Tom Green
Good size guy to.
00;51;00;08 - 00;51;17;23
Ron Zappolo
Good size guy. He's big. He's 25 I think he's another guy. Give him a three year deal I think you know, eight, nine, ten, $11 million. He will be outstanding paired with Courtland Sutton or whoever you want to help him with. But those are my.
00;51;17;25 - 00;51;27;02
Woody Paige
I am I'm shocked because, I don't I've never seen you this excited since you've moved in. It's my neighbor.
00;51;27;04 - 00;51;29;15
Woody Paige
That you had somebody that could cut your yard for you.
00;51;29;15 - 00;51;31;11
Ron Zappolo
Yes. True.
00;51;31;14 - 00;51;31;25
Speaker 3
Go ahead.
00;51;31;25 - 00;51;34;27
Woody Paige
You're you're you are right there.
00;51;34;27 - 00;51;40;10
Ron Zappolo
One more thing. You credit. You gave me the impetus to go, and Rasheed.
00;51;40;12 - 00;51;42;26
Woody Paige
I thought, led the league in.
00;51;42;28 - 00;51;43;29
Speaker 3
Yards per catch.
00;51;43;29 - 00;51;45;07
Woody Paige
Yeah, I thought it was 19.
00;51;45;07 - 00;51;46;06
Ron Zappolo
It was Alec Pierce.
00;51;46;06 - 00;51;47;06
Tom Green
He has over 20.
00;51;47;08 - 00;51;48;03
Ron Zappolo
Over 20.
00;51;48;03 - 00;51;57;27
Woody Paige
So those were the two that I came down to. But I thought that Rasheed was to me, he is a good team guy. Yeah he's a little bit younger.
00;51;57;29 - 00;51;59;20
Ron Zappolo
Yeah. And he's 20 so.
00;51;59;24 - 00;52;02;13
Woody Paige
He's got some speed.
00;52;02;15 - 00;52;04;07
Ron Zappolo
He's he's he's.
00;52;04;07 - 00;52;05;07
Tom Green
Got a lot of downfield.
00;52;05;11 - 00;52;06;01
Ron Zappolo
Good team guy.
00;52;06;02 - 00;52;10;08
Woody Paige
That is my guy. And again he was not a guy that's making.
00;52;10;14 - 00;52;13;04
Ron Zappolo
No he's not I'm sure he's going to want him.
00;52;13;05 - 00;52;17;19
Woody Paige
Yeah he's going to get it. But you got the you now have the money to say.
00;52;17;20 - 00;52;18;06
Ron Zappolo
I don't want to.
00;52;18;06 - 00;52;38;22
Tom Green
Do any. The Broncos have something that's really hard to get right now. They are a place you want to play. Yeah. And if you're an agent or a player you see upside, you see ownership, you see the future and you know the postseason and all those things. It's a perfect runway now to to be in an advantageous position.
00;52;38;22 - 00;52;49;08
Tom Green
If you get into a close bidding war with an like if you know, as good as John Harbaugh is, the Giants are terrible. So I mean, if you want to go line up and go, you know, go seven Bo.
00;52;49;08 - 00;53;14;09
Woody Paige
Nix and Bo Nix is an attraction. Yeah. Peyton Manning was an attraction. I mean, every every free agent wanted to come play for Peyton. There was not the same kind of free agent situation when. When John was here. Elway. So that was a, you know, that was drafting. And, you know, he Dan Reeves didn't do a very good job.
00;53;14;09 - 00;53;31;13
Woody Paige
Are we are we the the Broncos would have probably won more Super Bowls. He got them there by himself. So Nix is a track and an attraction. People like like him because they like I think the free agents are going to really like playing with him.
00;53;31;15 - 00;53;33;11
Ron Zappolo
I think they're going to like playing so often.
00;53;33;13 - 00;53;33;26
Woody Paige
I think.
00;53;33;26 - 00;53;34;06
Ron Zappolo
You like.
00;53;34;06 - 00;53;35;12
Speaker 3
Sean. You know, you.
00;53;35;12 - 00;53;40;02
Woody Paige
Honed in on 2 or 3 wide receivers that you got to get one. You got.
00;53;40;05 - 00;53;43;22
Ron Zappolo
I would say either Rasheed Shaheed or Alec Pierce, all those guys.
00;53;43;22 - 00;53;47;18
Tom Green
Would you? I think if they got either one of those guys, it would be a huge trade.
00;53;47;21 - 00;54;03;12
Woody Paige
I had the third, the third was running back, so those two, you guys were hit totally on those two positions. I think Reese Hall is my guy, running back Jets. He played for Horseshit Team.
00;54;03;12 - 00;54;05;11
Tom Green
But we saw one of his best games ever here. Yes we.
00;54;05;11 - 00;54;05;24
Speaker 3
Do.
00;54;05;26 - 00;54;14;14
Woody Paige
And he's a play. Well, here. And that would be he does. He's had injury problems. They are all problems.
00;54;14;14 - 00;54;21;27
Tom Green
He's played almost every game the last three years. And he. So I would appear to be well past the ACL that he hurt.
00;54;21;27 - 00;54;25;17
Ron Zappolo
And when he want to get out of like one of the most dysfunctional.
00;54;25;20 - 00;54;26;20
Tom Green
Well he's gone somewhere.
00;54;26;24 - 00;54;27;27
Ron Zappolo
He's going somewhere.
00;54;27;27 - 00;54;28;22
Tom Green
Anywhere but here.
00;54;28;22 - 00;54;42;12
Woody Paige
With you had to pay him a lot of money too because he's worked himself into. Let me ask you, though, if you had likely and you had either Pearce or Shaheen and you got Breece Hall, you ready? Go. I mean.
00;54;42;12 - 00;54;43;27
Tom Green
I have an inside linebacker.
00;54;43;29 - 00;54;45;10
Ron Zappolo
We have you guys. I don't.
00;54;45;10 - 00;54;45;20
Speaker 3
Need it.
00;54;45;20 - 00;54;50;17
Woody Paige
Insider I get those three guys. You know, I find it inside the reviews.
00;54;50;17 - 00;54;56;06
Ron Zappolo
Do either of you think that, resigning Jake Dobbins is a good idea?
00;54;56;09 - 00;55;08;02
Tom Green
I do in general. You know, then you start to get into the stuff that you don't really have. Like, it's always fun to do someone else's budget. But if you could have signed Jake Dobbins at the right number. But I think.
00;55;08;04 - 00;55;21;02
Ron Zappolo
I like Woody's idea, though. I think I'd rather have Breece. Oh, totally. Because I think he's healthier and he's more younger, and he's more, breakaway. He. Jake Dobbins gets tough yards. Breece Hall.
00;55;21;04 - 00;55;22;25
Tom Green
And I'd like to have both of I.
00;55;22;26 - 00;55;43;21
Woody Paige
Would say this Dobbins. Is doing a great job of marketing. Yeah. Himself to come back to the Broncos. Yes. He he wants to be here. But do we agree reason. If I can't get Breece Hall, then Matt can't get somebody. I don't trust his injury history.
00;55;43;21 - 00;55;45;03
Tom Green
Right. It's pretty consistent.
00;55;45;03 - 00;55;53;17
Woody Paige
I like him as a runner. I think he's got a good attitude toward the Broncos. He he loves having played here. Again you want to play here.
00;55;53;18 - 00;55;54;27
Ron Zappolo
There's some good you want to play here.
00;55;55;02 - 00;56;12;25
Woody Paige
Even though we rip on rip it's too short. We we have negative feelings about Sean Payton. On how he runs the offense at times. But they want to play for him I mean he yeah. Players all over the league say man he's a brilliant.
00;56;12;26 - 00;56;13;06
Ron Zappolo
Yeah they.
00;56;13;06 - 00;56;38;04
Woody Paige
Want offensive. But I got those three I can I can deal with signing what I I'll tell you the additional thing and I may there's a there's left tackle at Utah who came out of Utah balls. There's a left tackle at Utah that had draft number one and set him up to take Garrett Bolts place at the end.
00;56;38;06 - 00;56;42;23
Woody Paige
And I think if I can get those four guys I'm ready to play about anybody I would.
00;56;42;23 - 00;56;57;07
Tom Green
Worry about because I think Garrett Bowls is got plenty of life left in there. I would say drafting a left tackle right now, especially early, would be a lot like drafting Tommy Maddox. I think you're you're you're all all set at left tackle for 3 or 4.
00;56;57;07 - 00;56;59;04
Ron Zappolo
More gentle way of disagreeing.
00;56;59;06 - 00;57;03;10
Woody Paige
But Bolds and I you know, I had him on the whatever.
00;57;03;10 - 00;57;04;25
Speaker 3
We after.
00;57;04;25 - 00;57;05;05
Tom Green
The Super.
00;57;05;05 - 00;57;19;04
Woody Paige
Bowl super size or something. He came out with me for about 30 minutes and I, I love him and I'm sure he's going to want to play three more years. Who was the guy who played for LA that is now on the NFL Andrew Prime.
00;57;19;10 - 00;57;20;16
Tom Green
Oh Andrew Whitworth and.
00;57;20;18 - 00;57;33;23
Woody Paige
Yeah I mean he played forever referenced like 41 Cincinnati I'll come back one more year or something. I consider him that Garrett loves playing. He's going to keep coming back. He wants his son and his brother to what?
00;57;33;25 - 00;57;50;04
Tom Green
But this team's drafting for now. And your first round pick has got to be a guy who's going to play now. I think, you know, even if you stay at 30, the Broncos need to draft a guy who's going to impact them in the present. So depending on what's on the board, if they're still at 30, it could be a tight end.
00;57;50;07 - 00;57;52;26
Tom Green
If if Canyon City.
00;57;52;26 - 00;58;02;17
Woody Paige
I am tired, I am tired. Oh, Lord. How long do they have to keep drafting tight ends. Well you know.
00;58;02;17 - 00;58;04;01
Speaker 3
They you know, they trail.
00;58;04;08 - 00;58;09;28
Ron Zappolo
They drafted the only tight end out of Iowa that wasn't any good in the last 15 years.
00;58;09;28 - 00;58;14;05
Woody Paige
So I don't want to draft a tight end because I don't think body.
00;58;14;07 - 00;58;26;24
Ron Zappolo
I agree with that. I want a tight end that I know, not Evan Ingram. I want a tight end that I know that I've seen. Right. And that's why I like Isaiah likely. Yeah I've watched him I've seen what he does.
00;58;26;26 - 00;58;51;10
Tom Green
Well they'll have this is the sequence though because we go to the combine. Then we go to the three weeks from now free agency starts and then you have the draft. So today you have to do things in order. Right. And so it'll be interesting to see how they fare in free agency, which will then certainly impact their draft because I would think they're expecting and George Payton has done a good job drafting to draft a player at one, which they didn't do this past year.
00;58;51;10 - 00;59;09;21
Tom Green
And today Barron, who's going to play a lot in some position and probably a two and three and four, hope that you hit on a couple more players who are going to, if not start, play a lot of football for you. So, that sequence of events is built for a reason. And they have I don't think of their own free.
00;59;09;22 - 00;59;30;04
Ron Zappolo
I have one more question for you because like, unlike Woody, I do watch a lot of television sports. I keep seeing these stories that the Broncos should trade instead of draft or son free agent. They should trade for AJ Brown. Is there any interest in that?
00;59;30;07 - 00;59;47;24
Woody Paige
I think those are people that are fans that play fantasy football like you, and I think it's like an ambassador. Nuggets basketball fans kept saying let's trade for Giannis.
00;59;47;26 - 00;59;49;26
Ron Zappolo
Yeah no. But here's the.
00;59;49;26 - 00;59;50;27
Woody Paige
Problem. You give a little.
00;59;50;27 - 00;59;51;12
Tom Green
Give you 100.
00;59;51;12 - 00;59;58;26
Ron Zappolo
Right. So here's the problem with AJ Brown Boston. He's not a good player. Do you think AJ Brown would be different in Denver than he is in Philadelphia.
00;59;58;26 - 01;00;01;17
Woody Paige
It's not. No. That's so that's a whoever.
01;00;01;24 - 01;00;02;13
Ron Zappolo
They get.
01;00;02;15 - 01;00;07;15
Woody Paige
If you're out there and you're saying agent no no forget that. No some somebody has.
01;00;07;15 - 01;00;12;07
Speaker 5
The writer Bill Barnwell we're talking to you. He he's leading that apparently.
01;00;12;12 - 01;00;14;11
Ron Zappolo
But AJ Brown thing. Yeah yeah.
01;00;14;11 - 01;00;17;05
Tom Green
See I see price is that as well.
01;00;17;07 - 01;00;23;06
Ron Zappolo
That's you know they'll want picks and you know stuff like that. I just don't want AJ Brown.
01;00;23;09 - 01;00;32;29
Woody Paige
I'll say this for Bill Barnwell. I work with him lately. He was the late cover to run the horn. He writes longer than anybody.
01;00;32;29 - 01;00;34;15
Ron Zappolo
He writes long hair, right?
01;00;34;15 - 01;00;36;12
Woody Paige
He does more, an.
01;00;36;12 - 01;00;37;00
Tom Green
Expensive.
01;00;37;02 - 01;00;47;22
Woody Paige
Look. He does more research than you did. Yeah, that was that was very impressive. Right. Well, thank you, but Bill is as human as the rest of us. And he makes mistake.
01;00;47;27 - 01;00;51;18
Ron Zappolo
He's he's wrong. So. But you're right. He wouldn't be.
01;00;51;18 - 01;00;53;22
Woody Paige
Right for me. And tell him he's wrong.
01;00;53;22 - 01;00;59;27
Ron Zappolo
He writes documentaries. I mean, they're just. You gotta you need, like, an hour to sit down and show me one column.
01;00;59;29 - 01;01;05;21
Woody Paige
And when we be on the show together, I go, Bill. Yeah. The 30 minutes.
01;01;05;23 - 01;01;07;19
Speaker 3
Hey, in. Oh.
01;01;07;22 - 01;01;16;10
Woody Paige
He did like, it's I. And I'd say his name wrong all the time. My name is Barnwell and I go Bard bad.
01;01;16;12 - 01;01;18;16
Tom Green
Hey, I saw this morning our friend Thomas Harding.
01;01;18;16 - 01;01;29;23
Woody Paige
That's good. Anyway, just to end on that, that was very impressive, the research you did. But what was it? He did all the research, and I did, like two minutes every 20 we got.
01;01;29;29 - 01;01;30;18
Ron Zappolo
Got the same.
01;01;30;18 - 01;01;31;27
Tom Green
Stuff. He got hit, got him.
01;01;31;28 - 01;01;34;12
Ron Zappolo
He took me an hour. It only took him two minutes.
01;01;34;13 - 01;01;35;02
Tom Green
Oh, you got to read the book.
01;01;35;02 - 01;01;47;10
Woody Paige
You look at it, you go, that's you looking for. Yes. You can go try and get hits that, that that, wraps a situation where they give you all your money.
01;01;47;12 - 01;01;50;23
Ron Zappolo
You've. Yeah, you're putting your all your eggs in his basket.
01;01;50;24 - 01;01;55;02
Woody Paige
Because you had the point. You find somebody that's undervalued.
01;01;55;04 - 01;01;58;17
Ron Zappolo
That's good. That hasn't that is under the radar.
01;01;58;17 - 01;02;08;20
Tom Green
Well they did that. They did that last year with guys. And they got him at bargain because they were hurt and dragged down low, stayed hurt, happened. You know it's no fun to play great. You know some guys it works out.
01;02;08;21 - 01;02;19;22
Woody Paige
And you can keep being Graham. You can keep him. You can see if you want to him. I thought he was a by the way he was promoted. The new joker. That's a bad term. And this.
01;02;19;23 - 01;02;21;04
Tom Green
They got a whole bunch that's.
01;02;21;04 - 01;02;28;25
Woody Paige
Over that that did this. Yeah that that. And he's he's bargaining to try and come back. Yeah. Everybody that they did sign they he.
01;02;28;25 - 01;02;30;29
Tom Green
Has a deal. They'll have to buy him out or move.
01;02;30;29 - 01;02;48;15
Ron Zappolo
They you talking Evan Engram of the three guys. Anybody that watched in the nation for a long time. And I have because he was a giant. Yeah. And a Jack. He's one of those guys. That looks great. Sounds great number one pick. But when you look at the numbers never they're never that good. By the way not to change a subject.
01;02;48;15 - 01;03;07;23
Ron Zappolo
I read a story last night, about Peyton Watson and how the Lakers are going to go all in for Peyton Watson this summer when he's a free agent. How do we keep great Mason elder rich? How do we keep Peyton Watson? You don't.
01;03;07;26 - 01;03;08;14
Woody Paige
You don't.
01;03;08;16 - 01;03;10;07
Ron Zappolo
You're not going to keep. So he's gone.
01;03;10;07 - 01;03;16;01
Woody Paige
He's he wants to be the guy he's been mentored by. Kevin.
01;03;16;01 - 01;03;19;08
Ron Zappolo
Oh, I got news for him. He ain't going to be the guy with the Lakers.
01;03;19;15 - 01;03;20;09
Tom Green
You know, they've got a guy.
01;03;20;13 - 01;03;22;02
Ron Zappolo
They've got a guy that's.
01;03;22;02 - 01;03;23;16
Speaker 3
Speaking of a guy. I'm just.
01;03;23;17 - 01;03;33;26
Woody Paige
Well, I'm not saying you're saying the Lakers are going all the you know I'm saying like Michael Porter Jr Michael Porter juniors find out. Yeah I am now the guy.
01;03;33;27 - 01;03;34;11
Speaker 3
I'm the guy.
01;03;34;11 - 01;03;39;16
Woody Paige
That's our code word. I'm the guy I guess what I played for horseshit.
01;03;39;16 - 01;03;40;29
Ron Zappolo
Yeah. It sucks.
01;03;41;01 - 01;03;47;02
Woody Paige
I'm paying for a horseshit team to get rid of me. So I'm going to go to Malky, and I'm will play for another horseshit.
01;03;47;02 - 01;04;03;26
Tom Green
Let's say you're the. Let's say you're the nuggets and you go into the postseason because of all the health issues. You get into the postseason. You can everything from winning NBA championship to likely not lose in a first round, but lose too early. You could get bounced early if you're not healthy, not playing sharp.
01;04;03;27 - 01;04;04;08
Woody Paige
Well.
01;04;04;08 - 01;04;17;06
Tom Green
Health. And so let's say you go into the offseason on one of those notes, something like that. You know, maybe you're going to make a big move and create space for Peyton Watson. Maybe you're going to make room for him and say, we got to shake the table.
01;04;17;06 - 01;04;40;01
Ron Zappolo
I just think it's so hard to find young ascending terrific. And keep them and keep them that maybe if you have a creative GM like Brad Stevens or the Pressley one or Alt Steve Kerr, you find a way to your point. Yeah. How can I move this around where I can keep it mean we talked about this before.
01;04;40;01 - 01;04;44;14
Ron Zappolo
Well, the mistake they made was given Christian Braun the money. Yeah.
01;04;44;21 - 01;04;50;03
Tom Green
And leaving him and they like I mean they like Christian. It's not that it's, you know.
01;04;50;05 - 01;04;54;17
Ron Zappolo
But I like Christian Brown too. But but Peyton Watson ceiling.
01;04;54;17 - 01;05;05;07
Woody Paige
But they what they did over the years is they really evaporated the draft with the good decision. They made the bad decisions.
01;05;05;10 - 01;05;07;11
Tom Green
Well they drafted Peyton Watson.
01;05;07;13 - 01;05;10;25
Woody Paige
Yeah. That's why I said that. There have been some picks.
01;05;10;25 - 01;05;11;14
Tom Green
Yeah.
01;05;11;17 - 01;05;13;03
Woody Paige
And he was. But he.
01;05;13;03 - 01;05;15;03
Tom Green
Loves Joker. Joker's been his.
01;05;15;03 - 01;05;16;12
Ron Zappolo
Well he could love Luka too.
01;05;16;12 - 01;05;18;03
Speaker 3
Yeah it can be learned.
01;05;18;03 - 01;05;18;15
Tom Green
To love you.
01;05;18;15 - 01;05;32;28
Woody Paige
Say, how do you keep him? Yeah. There's only way. One way you keep him. And that's who you just mentioned. Who is the guy he loves more than anybody in the world? The Joker. Yeah. And if the Joker goes to him and says, I want you to be on my side.
01;05;32;28 - 01;05;37;00
Ron Zappolo
And pick, Watson says, good. I want to be on your side. But are you going to pay me?
01;05;37;03 - 01;05;40;00
Tom Green
Yeah, well, they get they get in that box. I always remember I heard.
01;05;40;00 - 01;05;44;16
Ron Zappolo
This about players. They all want to be paid and they all respect the fact that guys want to.
01;05;44;16 - 01;05;55;10
Woody Paige
Get good at the pay and before they have to do it, but then you're going to have to get rid of Brooks. I mean, you're going to have to get rid of Gordon. I'm sorry. Well, you're going to have to get rid of Gordon. You're going to have to get rid of you're going to have to.
01;05;55;13 - 01;05;57;29
Tom Green
It's going to take, like I said, very creative. You're going to be.
01;05;58;00 - 01;05;58;09
Ron Zappolo
Very.
01;05;58;09 - 01;06;07;05
Tom Green
Creative. But if they determined that is their best path forward, like say we need to keep Peyton Watson. Like I said, see they stagger through a bad playoff coming.
01;06;07;11 - 01;06;32;15
Ron Zappolo
Not a bad playoff. Let's just say they win their first round series and they lose in seven games to the Spurs. Right. And and Woody and I talked about this last week. It might be one of those years time where they're they're just not healthy enough because they haven't been all year. But I it it's imperative to your point that they sit down and come up with a creative response to how do I keep our team together?
01;06;32;15 - 01;06;36;11
Tom Green
Yeah. Or how do we get better? Or how do I get or healthier or young? But I know.
01;06;36;11 - 01;06;41;12
Ron Zappolo
This if Peyton Watson leaves is a free agent, you're not better.
01;06;41;14 - 01;07;09;20
Woody Paige
But you can do it because of the tier system. If if one reason Stan Kroenke has done it quietly, do us people in Colorado, he has done it in England. He has spent a fortune with Arsenal. They go they go spend billions of dollars on players. He's done it with the Rams. He has got to make the decision and I think I know him better.
01;07;09;22 - 01;07;18;19
Woody Paige
Not lately. I know him closer than probably anybody in Colorado in the media for sure that he just didn't want to spend.
01;07;18;22 - 01;07;19;24
Ron Zappolo
Okay, I'm even.
01;07;19;24 - 01;07;22;28
Woody Paige
Though basketball is his favorite sport, it doesn't mean he's got to go.
01;07;22;28 - 01;07;24;17
Tom Green
The sun is running.
01;07;24;22 - 01;07;51;11
Ron Zappolo
You know what he reminds me of John Henry? These billionaires that have multiple franchises in multiple leagues. And he hit the nail on the head. It comes down to does he want to take one asset, which is all they are is one asset in a portfolio of assets. And does he want to spend a lot of money? I know John Henry doesn't want to and I'm not clear.
01;07;51;12 - 01;07;54;05
Ron Zappolo
I'm yeah I'm not sure stinkiest.
01;07;54;07 - 01;08;18;21
Woody Paige
Aspect of that. I think he gets so much shit in England. Yeah. He gets more grief than he's ever gotten in Germany or in Los Angeles or even Saint Louis. When he took the team away, because they're they're so passionate that it's way beyond what we're doing here. And he's reacted to that by doing whatever good they better stadium.
01;08;18;21 - 01;08;41;12
Woody Paige
You know, he's built stadiums and everything. And the Rams, he really thought he was going to win it again. You he's just got to have enough you know to go beyond that. He's going to build that village around ball arena that he's got a he it's the biggest landowner in the country. He's got more money invested in sports.
01;08;41;17 - 01;09;00;02
Woody Paige
You know, he's got like $10 billion rested and and teams. He is just, I can't understand him sometimes because he's a basketball fan. His son is a basketball fan. They're both they don't give a shit about hockey. Hockey. They don't give a shit about soccer. They know that.
01;09;00;04 - 01;09;00;24
Ron Zappolo
They're basketball.
01;09;00;24 - 01;09;13;00
Woody Paige
Guys. They don't care about the, the rapids or the mammoths. They don't even know they have a team called The Man. But. But he's got to. He's. This is when he's got it. Yes. They can keep.
01;09;13;01 - 01;09;31;03
Tom Green
It's going to be it's going to require creativity and that's that'll be interesting because they're going to have to they're going to have to take a from an outside angle. Look at their team. Hey, I have two baseball things I want to get to show on. One is it doesn't look good for Kris Bryant. I saw Thomas Harding talk with him today.
01;09;31;03 - 01;09;32;15
Woody Paige
Don't talk to.
01;09;32;16 - 01;09;33;05
Tom Green
He's got some.
01;09;33;11 - 01;09;34;15
Woody Paige
Privacy. Talk to him.
01;09;34;20 - 01;09;50;10
Tom Green
He's got chronic pain and it's chronic. Each day hurts. And it's not when it hurt like bad. Yeah. And the other one was I can't believe I forgot to mention earlier Max mercy, one of my favorite roles of Robert Duvall when he was the sportswriter in The.
01;09;50;10 - 01;09;51;14
Ron Zappolo
Natural and the natural.
01;09;51;17 - 01;09;56;21
Tom Green
And yeah, he he says in first and he has to umpire when he strikes out the winner at the.
01;09;56;23 - 01;09;57;11
Ron Zappolo
End of that.
01;09;57;11 - 01;09;58;13
Woody Paige
And you know that really.
01;09;58;14 - 01;10;01;06
Ron Zappolo
The women at the train stop that was so good.
01;10;01;06 - 01;10;03;15
Tom Green
That's when the that's when the lady decides to kill him.
01;10;03;15 - 01;10;04;14
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah.
01;10;04;15 - 01;10;11;24
Woody Paige
I, I really had a negative opinion of him though, because I can't draw in the he.
01;10;11;25 - 01;10;13;00
Speaker 3
Remember the.
01;10;13;02 - 01;10;15;28
Tom Green
Guy the great sports columnist.
01;10;15;29 - 01;10;18;25
Ron Zappolo
The natural was like 35, 40 years old is.
01;10;18;25 - 01;10;19;21
Speaker 3
Yeah.
01;10;19;24 - 01;10;22;17
Ron Zappolo
Hey, can I ask you one more question before we go?
01;10;22;19 - 01;10;24;09
Woody Paige
We get addressed the peanut butter.
01;10;24;13 - 01;10;25;08
Speaker 3
Okay. Yeah.
01;10;25;10 - 01;10;32;01
Ron Zappolo
Before we get to the peanut butter issue, if you don't want to talk about. We don't have to. What do you think of Pam Bundy's performance last week?
01;10;32;03 - 01;10;45;14
Woody Paige
What's it I did to that? That I think, was the most disrespectful. I'm going to put that way. The most disrespectful appearance in the history of Congress.
01;10;45;16 - 01;10;48;02
Tom Green
I found it to be detached from reality. Or at least.
01;10;48;05 - 01;10;49;05
Woody Paige
She.
01;10;49;08 - 01;10;53;06
Tom Green
Was. Yeah, I was glued to the detach.
01;10;53;08 - 01;11;01;18
Ron Zappolo
That a cabinet secretary could get up there in front of Congress, and you're supposed to at least answer questions.
01;11;01;18 - 01;11;03;20
Woody Paige
She wouldn't answer. She wouldn't answer a question.
01;11;03;23 - 01;11;17;01
Ron Zappolo
And some of those questions weren't questions that are hard to answer. Like when Nadler said to her, are you going to indict any other coconspirators? It's not that hard a question, yes or no? Whatever. She just refused to answer.
01;11;17;01 - 01;11;17;12
Woody Paige
But it was.
01;11;17;12 - 01;11;19;15
Tom Green
Said. So you're saying you didn't like it?
01;11;19;18 - 01;11;22;00
Ron Zappolo
Well, I just thought it was embarrassing for all of us.
01;11;22;00 - 01;11;23;11
Woody Paige
So I said, disrespectful.
01;11;23;14 - 01;11;24;09
Ron Zappolo
Disrespectful.
01;11;24;09 - 01;11;31;21
Woody Paige
I think this was common who she was. She was her performance. Put it that way. Yeah. Was for one person.
01;11;31;22 - 01;11;33;06
Tom Green
Yeah. Again, she doesn't.
01;11;33;09 - 01;11;36;13
Woody Paige
She doesn't want to lose that cushy job. She is.
01;11;36;16 - 01;11;37;25
Ron Zappolo
Now you want to get the peanut butter going?
01;11;37;26 - 01;11;43;12
Tom Green
Yeah. Because I'm curious about because maybe she's going to step in on this. Maybe she's going to handle the beef.
01;11;43;12 - 01;11;46;27
Woody Paige
I ask her what the question of asking you. The two of you, she.
01;11;46;27 - 01;11;50;04
Ron Zappolo
Just say you're an elder rich guy. You don't know anything else?
01;11;50;07 - 01;11;50;14
Speaker 3
No.
01;11;50;14 - 01;11;53;20
Speaker 5
That's their favorite. That that's who they serve.
01;11;53;23 - 01;11;55;11
Speaker 3
And guess what I mean?
01;11;55;14 - 01;11;58;15
Woody Paige
I am elderly, so I'm forgetful and stuff.
01;11;58;16 - 01;12;01;01
Tom Green
That's a protected class, by the way, young lady week, when.
01;12;01;01 - 01;12;03;02
Speaker 3
You're working for a middle class that.
01;12;03;02 - 01;12;05;02
Speaker 5
Was wealthy. So it was like next.
01;12;05;02 - 01;12;07;13
Ron Zappolo
Week when there's three younger guys here.
01;12;07;13 - 01;12;09;15
Speaker 3
Remember us? Yeah.
01;12;09;22 - 01;12;11;17
Woody Paige
That you that you were repealed.
01;12;11;17 - 01;12;14;01
Ron Zappolo
Us yes. The show three older.
01;12;14;06 - 01;12;17;11
Tom Green
If there are three younger guys here, it's because we're talking about buyer.
01;12;17;11 - 01;12;18;01
Ron Zappolo
Yes for.
01;12;18;01 - 01;12;19;06
Speaker 3
Sure. What did you think.
01;12;19;06 - 01;12;23;21
Woody Paige
Of Pam body. You're a woman. You're a powerful woman.
01;12;23;24 - 01;12;35;27
Speaker 5
Oh. You don't know? You don't want to get me started. I I'm with you, you guys. I try to keep my mouth shut when we talk to politics, because I've got such big feelings. A disgrace is an understatement.
01;12;35;27 - 01;12;37;15
Ron Zappolo
It's okay to share them with us.
01;12;37;19 - 01;12;43;06
Woody Paige
Okay, well, let me ask you a question. You oil. What kind of peanut butter do you eat? Do you eat?
01;12;43;12 - 01;12;44;12
Tom Green
Is it fancy or mashed?
01;12;44;17 - 01;12;48;00
Ron Zappolo
I am a he always say I'm a huge peanut butter guy.
01;12;48;02 - 01;13;01;14
Speaker 5
Love peanut butter. If now as an adult, allowed to buy my own because I grew up in one of those, they, you know, they call them almond household. Okay, tell mom I had an almond dad. And so I didn't get to have the fun. The fun, the jiffy, the whatever.
01;13;01;19 - 01;13;02;21
Tom Green
Jif and Skippy.
01;13;02;24 - 01;13;03;09
Speaker 5
Yeah. I mean.
01;13;03;09 - 01;13;04;19
Speaker 3
Those are good.
01;13;04;21 - 01;13;05;06
Woody Paige
Actually.
01;13;05;06 - 01;13;09;03
Speaker 5
Yeah. So it's Jif and then Skippy. Yes. Okay.
01;13;09;05 - 01;13;09;25
Woody Paige
Yeah.
01;13;09;28 - 01;13;13;12
Tom Green
But now they're flavors of them, not flavors. But. Well.
01;13;13;15 - 01;13;14;26
Ron Zappolo
The other key thing.
01;13;14;26 - 01;13;15;24
Speaker 5
People are so like.
01;13;15;24 - 01;13;22;11
Ron Zappolo
It's you have to decide if you like the smooth peanut butter or the chunky. Like, I like the chunky.
01;13;22;11 - 01;13;25;01
Speaker 5
I like chunky, but I like them both. I'm not somebody.
01;13;25;01 - 01;13;28;17
Woody Paige
Okay, so we're talking about Peter Pan. We're talking about scooters.
01;13;28;19 - 01;13;28;29
Ron Zappolo
And.
01;13;29;06 - 01;13;30;08
Woody Paige
We're talking about Jif.
01;13;30;08 - 01;13;31;08
Ron Zappolo
Oh, good.
01;13;31;10 - 01;13;32;22
Woody Paige
That are the three big?
01;13;32;25 - 01;13;33;05
Speaker 3
Yeah.
01;13;33;05 - 01;13;54;16
Woody Paige
The big three. And Jif is in that recall. I mean and that's what I have in my, Well, I had it. Now it's in my garbage because the label number was exactly what I have. But I just wondered, and I looked at I was recently looking that up online. I said, I wonder what the world likes.
01;13;54;16 - 01;14;17;03
Woody Paige
And it's Jif and Skippy and Peter Pan, which was my mother's choice. I grew up on Peter Pan. That's fall, and that's doesn't have the same strength of popularity that I used to. It's down to Jif, but the other way that people go is the ones where you have to that's, you know, you open up the jar and it's like, look.
01;14;17;05 - 01;14;21;05
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, I don't, I don't think, oh, you don't want the liquid in the no no no no no.
01;14;21;09 - 01;14;22;15
Woody Paige
So there's natural.
01;14;22;15 - 01;14;26;23
Speaker 5
Thing that's the almond butter tea. That's what I grew up on is the real organic like, yeah.
01;14;26;24 - 01;14;28;22
Ron Zappolo
There's nothing better than that.
01;14;28;24 - 01;14;32;01
Speaker 5
Never mind. I shouldn't have to, like, churn butter too.
01;14;32;03 - 01;14;38;04
Tom Green
Well, that's when you go over to a friend's house and they had what you wanted. Oh, or you go to a friend's house and they had this stuff. You.
01;14;38;07 - 01;14;41;01
Woody Paige
Well, how about chunky versus scream?
01;14;41;04 - 01;14;41;29
Ron Zappolo
I like chunky.
01;14;42;05 - 01;14;48;04
Tom Green
I prefer chunky, but I'm also, as you guys might already thought, not that selective.
01;14;48;07 - 01;14;51;21
Speaker 3
You're not that. So like I'm like yeah, that's good. Do you have you then whatever.
01;14;51;23 - 01;14;53;10
Speaker 5
You know what a ruffle feathers.
01;14;53;10 - 01;15;03;07
Woody Paige
I would think that, Ron put a lot of, effort into this. Do you know what you got? The pocket, that peanut butter.
01;15;03;08 - 01;15;05;08
Ron Zappolo
You know, I got a little peanut butter here.
01;15;05;08 - 01;15;06;28
Tom Green
Somewhere called calories.
01;15;07;04 - 01;15;09;12
Speaker 3
I got all that. Yeah. Very proud.
01;15;09;12 - 01;15;09;21
Ron Zappolo
Of my.
01;15;09;21 - 01;15;11;09
Woody Paige
Effort. What does it. I mean.
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Tom Green
So what was it being recalled for? Is this list but salmonella.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Woody Paige
Because there's plastic in. Yeah. Not it's not peanut butter but it's in the company that. Yeah produces that distributes it.
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Tom Green
But when you describe reading the numbers off and hitting the numbers, all I could think of was every time you watch the lottery and none of your numbers come up. And yet when you have the poison peanut butter.
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Speaker 3
Ding ding ding.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah, that's you can't get a damn lottery ticket. But I got the.
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Woody Paige
Numbers on the label. I got those right. Well, so. And I'm probably going to die. I'm going to have, you know, I'm going to be here next.
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Ron Zappolo
Where it's been recalled in like 30 or 40.
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Woody Paige
States. Guess what? We're winners here. Colorado's what places?
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Tom Green
40 states 40 is going to be. How many are there in total?
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Woody Paige
50.
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Ron Zappolo
Well, there's there's red states and there's blue states.
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Speaker 5
I was going to say it depends on who's on who.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
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Speaker 3
The purple.
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Tom Green
States. But do we.
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Speaker 3
Lose.
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Woody Paige
Puerto Rico because bad Bunny.
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Tom Green
Bad.
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Woody Paige
Bunny qualifies an American?
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Tom Green
I don't know if they're recalling the peanut butter there, fellas. There's always great chocolate. Natasha, thanks for spending your your time with us. We love seeing you.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, but.
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Ron Zappolo
I like.
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Speaker 5
Peanut butter and watch kicking and screaming.
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Ron Zappolo
Isaiah.
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Tom Green
Likely you got.
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Ron Zappolo
It George Payton or I shouldn't say George Sean Payton I say likely.
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Tom Green
Any Payton. That'll do it. You can always reach out to us at at Gorilla Sportsnet. Thanks again for joining us. Of course we will in all likelihood be back here next week. Hope you are to.