On this Weekend Betting Edition of After the Horn, with Ron Zappolo still "on assignment, Tom Green and Woody Paige break down the biggest games of NFL Divisional Weekend and the College Football National Championship. The panel opens with Broncos vs. Bills, debating Bo Nix, Josh Allen, point spreads, and whether Denver’s defense can control the game. They then move through Seahawks vs. 49ers, Texans vs. Patriots, and Rams vs. Bears, analyzing coaching matchups, quarterback play, betting lines, totals, and home-field advantage. The episode closes with Super Bowl futures, where Denver is surprisingly ranked last among AFC contenders, and a spirited preview of Indiana vs. Miami in the national title game, including picks against the spread and over/under totals. A full weekend of football wagering, strategy, and sharp takes.
This Weekend Betting Edition of After the Horn features Tom Green, Woody Paige, and Natasha breaking down the NFL Divisional Round and the College Football National Championship. The show opens with Broncos vs. Bills, as the panel debates whether Denver’s defense and Bo Nix can slow Josh Allen, the importance of starting fast, and whether the game stays under the total. They move to Seahawks vs. 49ers, weighing Seattle’s health advantage against San Francisco’s coaching and playoff experience. Texans vs. Patriots follows, focusing on C.J. Stroud, Drake Maye, cold-weather football in Foxborough, and how defense could dictate the outcome. Rams vs. Bears closes the NFL slate, with discussion of Matthew Stafford’s playoff pedigree, Chicago’s defense, weather factors, and whether the game goes over. The group then examines Super Bowl odds, questioning why the Broncos are ranked last among AFC teams despite being the top seed. Finally, they preview the College Football National Championship between Indiana and Miami, debating toughness versus dominance, point spreads, and whether the game stays close or becomes another Hoosiers statement win.
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Tom Green
Hey, it's time for the weekend betting edition of After the Horn along with Woody Paige, I'm Tom green. Ron's. Apollo's been relegated to another betting show.
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Woody Paige
Didn't he agree to join Tomlin on.
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Speaker 5
This.
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Tom Green
One on the hiatus?
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Woody Paige
Didn't know. I think Gorilla Sports said, Ron had announced that he was leaving.
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Tom Green
Well, Mike Tomlin is. We'll see what happens. Ron, hopefully back with us, in a week. Well, we're going to go over the four big National Football League games. We'll talk about the college. Hopefully college football.
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Speaker 5
Well you never know.
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Tom Green
Got the big college football national championship game as well. We'll take a look at the Super Bowl odds. A lot to talk about. Of course, the first game of the weekend, Saturday afternoon in Denver. The Broncos hosting the bills. It's a pretty much a pick'em game that that line is floated around a little bit right now.
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Tom Green
Broncos are laying a point and a half with a total of 46.5 Woody.
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Woody Paige
It's odd that it depends on what betting service you look at. Ghost. Buffalo bills minus one and a half. Or Denver Broncos, one and a half. And I just assumed from beginning of that that it was going to end up being Broncos by two points, something like that. Right. I think as the week goes on, and I talked to my guy in Vegas and he said, we're expecting more money.
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Woody Paige
He said, you know, there are teams that drive the betting so I can move lines. But he said in this case, Bills and Broncos, it's not going to be a case of the bills.
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Tom Green
Right.
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Woody Paige
Suddenly jumping up three points. And he said both both sides will have most of their players healthy. So that's not going to be a factor in the game. I would say that I think it moves just a little bit. If you're going to want to get both sides, you'd bet the bills right now with the.
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Tom Green
Get the point in a half.
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Woody Paige
And then you.
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Tom Green
See if you can read a little bit and said it's gonna be a narrow middle. But they do come in. So this game is really, I think so many people handicap games. And you start with that big chunk of change that is the quarterback. Josh Allen, helped the bills go into Jacksonville and win that game.
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Tom Green
Woody. And he's you know they've they've not enjoyed a great season. But they've started to play much more exciting and winning football down the stretch. Whereas the Broncos and Bo Nix you know have gone and won the number one seed. But these last few games playing other teams with backup quarterbacks, have not been as impressive. They've not been underwhelming.
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Tom Green
They've just, let's say properly whelming their way.
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Woody Paige
Very hard to say about a 14 and three team. Yeah that they haven't played very well. That they have flaws. Serious flaws. And I keep looking in the mirror myself and say well you're not going to get up at a press conference and say, great job, Sean. And I want to tell you that I like you in there.
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Woody Paige
You keep your chin up and all the good stuff. I'm not that kind of guy, but, I don't go to the press conference and repeat any coaches, so I. I'm one of those old timers. You ask questions, but 14 and.
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Natasha
Three leaving your column.
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Woody Paige
And.
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Natasha
Where it belongs.
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Woody Paige
So Thomas here with us and Tom, of course, if they lost, would you say, oh, great season? I mean, I'm not making fun and not doing this.
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Tom Green
No, the Browns.
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Woody Paige
A great season at 14. They've only been 14 and three one time in the regular season in their history in 1998, which is still considered the best season that they've ever had in terms of they've they've finished with 13 victories. And of course, they're playing one extra game this year over times when they were 13 and three with, with with both John Elway and with Peyton Manning.
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Woody Paige
But 14 and three sounds like a great, great season. But does it all go away if it's.
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Tom Green
14 and four? Yeah, I think so. But I also think you could say that about all four of these games and these eight teams that if you lose now, you think of the opportunity missed. And for Josh Allen and for the Buffalo Bills, this is the opportunity they've almost been waiting for. Because they couldn't do it themselves. They couldn't get past burrow, they couldn't get patch, Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson.
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Tom Green
And none of those guys are around this year. And so now for Josh Allen and for the Buffalo Bills, going to Denver and playing a second year quarterback who's been good Bo Nix. But they're not having to run the Gantlet. They've had to run in the past that they haven't been able to complete to get to a Super Bowl.
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Tom Green
For the bills, losing in Denver would be would be heartbreaking for the Broncos. It's been that year where they found a way to win 14 games. And while some people may not give them a lot of credit for that, they won 14 games. There's a reason they're the number one seed. I think this game, the loser of this game is going to be thinking, what if for months, maybe years?
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Woody Paige
The Broncos have to, in my opinion, get off to a good start. They did last year in Buffalo. I think it was. And correct me because once you you're smart. They scored first.
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Tom Green
Yeah, they got right on the board and then that was it.
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Woody Paige
And then I think it was five of the next six possessions by the bills they scored. It's something on that order. But I think you not only get off to seven. Oh but you have a 13 to 6 or 13 to 7 lead at halftime. Then you can kind of control what you're going to do offensively in the second half, more so than if you were down.
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Woody Paige
I don't think the Broncos can come back from. So we're down to 17 points. They have come back against the Giants. They've come back against team after team. But Buffalo if you let Buffalo get away here you take the crowd out of the game. And two you take the defense out of the game. In terms of Josh Allen is not going to throw three interceptions in a game.
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Tom Green
Here's my bet on this game. I'm going to take the Broncos. And in doing so I'm also going to take the under. Because if the Broncos are going to win this game, that total is going to look more like the games we saw this past weekend that the Patriots were able to win and the Texans were able to win, and that's where the high and AFC defenses dictate what happens on the football field.
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Tom Green
The bills don't bring a high end defense to town. The Broncos have won here. They're going to play a good football game. The Broncos will cover that game will also come in under 46.5.
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Woody Paige
Well I already know what Natasha has said in the past about this game. But you still sticking with.
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Natasha
Oh, yeah. No, I can point.
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Woody Paige
Game and I think you said.
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Natasha
I completely agree with that, that it's going to be tight. Either it's going to be it could either be the the high scoring where we're kind of just going back and forth or this very low scoring where the the defense is kind of taking over.
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Woody Paige
Did she say it's either going to be high scoring. She.
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Tom Green
She likes the under or the over.
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Natasha
Well so if I did I would probably take that under as well. I'm just kind of thinking I could see a world in which we're, we're just going back and forth scoring. If Beau and the offense is having an open day, because of course you pretty much can kind of I think you.
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Woody Paige
Live in the bizarro world when you're in.
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Natasha
Do know I sound like you guys. I've learned from you guys where where you go. Oh, well, this team, they're there because of their, record. That means that they're good. But also this team that has the same record records don't actually, even teams.
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Tom Green
Aren't afraid in the playoffs. We saw that this past weekend. The road teams were were pretty good.
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Woody Paige
Well, I I've already indicated to you off the record, on the record over donuts, whatever it might be, that it's going to be something like 24 to 27.
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Tom Green
So you're a little higher today.
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Woody Paige
45.5 means that this is over that. So I think it's going to slide past that. If I, if I were betting person I would take the overall in this game. I think the bills are going to the the Broncos defense has not been the best defense in the NFL.
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Tom Green
By.
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Woody Paige
Far. Yeah. Down the stretch. I mean, a lot of the those records with sacks and. Yeah and and pressures and they didn't all year long have many turnovers. I think it's minus three.
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Tom Green
It wasn't. Yeah.
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Woody Paige
It was I think the Broncos are going to give up 2427 points. And they're going to have to score 30 points in this game. I think the 27 at the at the least. But they can't go out and play the Sean Payton little swing passes and bubble screens. Yeah I never liked the bubble screen. And I saw that out of coaches that came through here and I went, why are you doing that?
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Woody Paige
You've got to throw the ball down the field. You've got to score points in this game. You can't depend on let's do kick five field goals to win this game. So I'm not being anti Broncos I'm just saying here's what you've got to do. We don't want to talk about it a week from now and say that's what they needed to do.
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Woody Paige
I'm doing it now having watched them for 50 seasons. This is a game that calls on you to have four touchdowns, that this needs to be Bo Nix in games like he was against Dallas in what.
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Tom Green
Was the green Bay green.
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Woody Paige
Game. Yes, that's what he has to do. First of all, the defense doesn't have to get turnovers. It's held teams down but it has to turn sevens into threes.
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Tom Green
Well so do you like the Broncos. But you say that the game you like the over for the total.
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Woody Paige
Yeah it's good. It's not going to be 18 to 15 like it was against the Texans when they went there. It's oddly enough yeah. There were a lot of teams in the playoffs that they played against, and they were all close games this is against a team that you haven't seen since a year ago. How many points to score a year ago?
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Woody Paige
I'm asking you.
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Tom Green
So the next game on the Saturday schedule, the NFC is two games that are very two teams very familiar with one another. They haven't seen each other for a couple of weeks. They played each other twice, split the two games 40 Niners and Seahawks. Seattle as the number one seed hosting San Francisco San Francisco off a very impressive win in Philadelphia.
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Tom Green
Although they continue to lose players now George Kittle gone for a year with an Achilles tear. One of the reasons why Seattle is more than a touchdown. Favorite seven and a half points that total. Similar to the Broncos total at 45.5.
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Woody Paige
Last week, I said the 40 Niners have gone as far as they could. That was the only mistake I've made on this show in your life. Picking it, picking teams throughout the playoffs.
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Tom Green
So first.
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Woody Paige
Round.
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Tom Green
Of it. So how do you back that up? Do you double down or do you continue to beat on the 40 niners?
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Woody Paige
If I were at the blackjack table and I lost $1,000, I'd put down $2,000.
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Tom Green
Okay.
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Woody Paige
I think it's the worst betting scheme that I've ever heard in. Yeah, I'm watching land man. Rich man talk to you about last week. And that's exactly how Billy Bob's wife on the show is doing, where she just keeps losing and keeps doubling it till she probably wins. I'm doubling down, though. 40 niners have come as far as it can go, right?
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Woody Paige
They won the game. They played a great game. They can't. These teams have played twice. They both won on the road. Where is this game? It's in Seattle. They won there. They're not going to beat Seattle twice in Seattle. Both games were Seattle team. 40 Niners are, Band-Aids and staples and just trying to. And you lose Kittle and, you can't depend on McCaffrey to go for 300 yards.
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Tom Green
It's a healthy spread. Seven and a half. You're gonna play that.
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Woody Paige
Oh, yeah. Okay.
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Tom Green
You like Seattle? Cruised to.
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Woody Paige
Victory. I think the 40 Niners and, Kyle Shanahan may have. Not me. If I'm I'm not going to, say that Colin Shanahan has had his best year coaching in nine seasons. This is best year because he had Purdy out for Seattle. Yeah, he had health issues. They lost two of their best defensive players to the Denver Broncos.
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Tom Green
Well they also lost Bosa to the ACL. I mean they've had all sorts of issues. But I will say this watching them play the way they did. I like them to stay within the number here. I I'll take I'll take the seven and a half points. But also based on the fact that both games this year, one year was I think 13 three.
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Natasha
Yeah. And that will have been exactly two weeks since they played each other when this game happens.
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Tom Green
Close to the vest, though, I think they knew they were going to see each other again. But I think these two teams play each other in really narrow margins. So I, I do appreciate the Seahawks being the likely choice to win the game straight up, say a moneyline bet, but seven and half points is an awful lot of points to give a really good football team in San Francisco and a really good coach, as you've alluded to in Kyle Shanahan.
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Tom Green
So I'll I'll go on the 40 Niners side of this as far as covering the number.
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Woody Paige
I think both the 40 Niners and the Broncos score 27 points. The Broncos win with 27 points. The 40 Niners lose with 27.
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Tom Green
Points like that over.
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Woody Paige
Them 34.
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Tom Green
45.5. You get the loser.
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Tom Green
Losing and not covering seven and a half.
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Woody Paige
If I get the loser, it's going to be like last night where I just get up and say, it doesn't matter. I didn't bet.
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Speaker 5
Listen, I'm fine, I'm fine.
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Tom Green
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Tom Green
But those two teams were incredibly impressive with the way they played defense. As they get ready to square off.
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Woody Paige
And they have an interesting matchup. When you consider the coach of the Texans, who could have been the coach with the Broncos if Demeco Ryans. Yeah, if all had worked out against the offensive coordinator of the Patriots, who was a Denver Broncos coach and has proven over and over again that he can be an offensive coordinator, but he can't be a head coach.
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Woody Paige
That yeah, and he's not being interviewed by anybody this round, even though the Patriots he's done a hell of a job with a with a young quarterback. I like the Texans. I like them as the best AFC team, including the Broncos because of what they've done in the second half of the season. Yeah, Stroud played the most awful game anybody seen since Aaron Rodgers played like well.
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Tom Green
But he played the worst. You can play when you win by a hundred on the road. An NFL playoff game. And he individually wasn't good. That might have been that. You know you'd like to think that as good a players he is. That might be his worst playoff game he'll ever play.
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Woody Paige
Well we've said that about Nix during the course of the season where he's played some awful.
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Tom Green
It's come up.
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Woody Paige
Mediocre to awful games and that's what he's got. He's got to raise all boats. The old Peyton Manning thing, that's the same thing that, Stroud is going to have to do to win in New England. And I always think about this is a personal thing, going to New England for two games in January, man, is that the biting cold that it's like playing in Buffalo?
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Tom Green
At least the people are nice. You know, that's the one thing you can count on. It's a friendly environment.
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Woody Paige
But they're all like rod.
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Speaker 5
It's like.
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Woody Paige
I could talk about him. He's gone on assignment I think.
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Tom Green
I think it's a really hard game to handicap. You know you mentioned Josh McDaniels but Mike Vrabel another linebacker both teams coached by former linebackers. But Vrabel seems to be and was at Tennessee underappreciated by the Titans though a guy who can get everybody going in the right direction. Is he a great tactic guy? Is he a great time management guy?
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Tom Green
I don't know, but he gets he gets his team playing hard. And I don't know who's playing harder than the Patriots. They've galvanized they believe in their young quarterback. And he's delivered on that promise. So far both these teams are stepping up a bit in weight class. As far as the quarterbacks. They're going to have to beat for the Texans.
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Tom Green
They're playing Drake Maye who some people think would be the MVP this year. So now you're going to see a much better quarterback than you saw in in Aaron Rodgers in that that pathetic Pittsburgh offense. And for the Patriots you know C.J. Stroud didn't play well in the last game. But boy Justin Herbert offered them not not much of a challenge in week before to two teams that were down two games dominated by defense.
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Tom Green
Now squaring off in Foxborough. I think I think it's a tough game to handicap. I like the line New England by three, so I think I'd have to stick with the Patriots as my pick. But you know that unders low for a reason.
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Woody Paige
This is a betting show. So I'm going to turn to Natasha and tell you. Then you can respond to it that the way to bet this weekend in the AFC is to take either the two home teams or the two visiting teams. Visiting teams have this sounds like you don't see exactly.
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Natasha
I was like, it gives me great. I want to be I.
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Woody Paige
Know not want to be. You take the Texans and the bills which I think would be a great AFC championship.
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Tom Green
No. I think the AFC has got get four horses in the hunt.
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Woody Paige
Or I think you take the two home teams and you say, well because they're at home I'm going to go with the Patriots and the Broncos. I don't think you take one of each. I think you take either both both visiting teams, which normally doesn't sound like a good bet. No. You think the quinella like that.
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Tom Green
Make that into a parlay and you could get incredibly.
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Woody Paige
Rich. That's what I'm talking.
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Tom Green
I mean, you have to.
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Woody Paige
Get it where you go a quinella where you say, I'm taking the ball. Both the visiting teams that the Texans are right now, today on this date, they are a better team than the Broncos.
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Tom Green
So. So now Natasha, he's told you what to do.
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Woody Paige
The Texans are a better team than the Broncos. The bills are an even team with the Broncos.
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Tom Green
Okay.
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Woody Paige
The Patriots and the bills would be a great game. Old school yeah.
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Tom Green
AFL.
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Woody Paige
But I just think are you in agreement with me or.
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Natasha
Well.
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Woody Paige
Could you not figure out what I was.
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Speaker 5
Trying to still piece this together?
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Natasha
Yeah, I'm just a really active listener. I would I would go with the two home teams. Personally, I understand everything you're saying, but but that's kind of the point. And what I had previously said about Broncos bills in this, the fact that in both of these cases and actually a lot of these games that the teams are so closely matched, nobody's like truly, truly dominant or you can say that they've been more consistent towards the end of the season, that kind of thing.
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Natasha
But at the end of the day, they are pretty close. And you do just kind of have to go now. Well, being being home, being out of your element, there's.
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Tom Green
A reason your home. Yeah. That home field.
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Woody Paige
And based on that.
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Natasha
Home field advantage like it has a name for a reason.
00:21:43:02 - 00:22:06:27
Woody Paige
Yeah I think I'm, I'm, I'm in the studio at Abbey road with the Beatles doing the long and winding road. The way the both of you sound of where you're going with it. I was specific, I said, to two home teams or the two visiting teams, letting show you, based on what you said, that I'm pulling together is I'm not like both the Patriots and the Broncos.
00:22:06:28 - 00:22:07:14
Woody Paige
Yes.
00:22:07:17 - 00:22:11:24
Natasha
Yes. Where's my camera? And like the two home teams.
00:22:11:26 - 00:22:12:15
Natasha
I mean.
00:22:12:15 - 00:22:14:29
Woody Paige
Tom the Kings and the Broncos.
00:22:15:00 - 00:22:16:22
Tom Green
Okay. Going against your own.
00:22:16:22 - 00:22:21:18
Woody Paige
Yeah. Because I think the Texans are the best team in the AFC.
00:22:21:20 - 00:22:40:05
Tom Green
Well it's it's the best part of this matchup or these matchups right now as we've been talking about certain teams not having played anyone for a while. Well everyone's playing somebody now. That's all that's left. So you're going to get measured by playing, a team that belongs in the playoffs. So we'll learn a lot about these teams with what happens this week.
00:22:40:05 - 00:23:05:11
Tom Green
And now the NFC, presents the finale to the weekend of National Football League playoff action. And that's the Rams going to the bears. The Rams escaped Carolina a game that they were supposed to win easily, but instead, had a very difficult time putting the Panthers away. The bears people are still wondering how they won that game, including many people in green Bay.
00:23:05:14 - 00:23:11:13
Tom Green
So that'll be interesting to see Rams and Bears in Chicago. And that's the last game on Sunday night.
00:23:11:13 - 00:23:21:00
Woody Paige
Rams taking the Rams going with the points and taking the Rams with points. Their favorite aren't they by one and a half.
00:23:21:00 - 00:23:24:00
Tom Green
Do we have the line for that game.
00:23:24:02 - 00:23:25:24
Woody Paige
Nobody's paying attention to us I think.
00:23:25:24 - 00:23:26:20
Tom Green
It's excuse us.
00:23:26:24 - 00:23:28:01
Natasha
They're yapping back there. Hello.
00:23:28:02 - 00:23:36:12
Tom Green
There we go. Okay so the Rams are three and a half point, favorites in here. Going to Chicago. The total the highest of the weekend at 50.5.
00:23:36:12 - 00:23:40:27
Woody Paige
And I would go over on that. I think they're both going to score a lot of points.
00:23:40:29 - 00:24:02:26
Tom Green
Well, they they've both been, you know, scoring points. The question becomes who's going to stop somebody. The bears ultimately made enough plays to, to win that game against green Bay. The Rams ultimately barely made enough plays to get out of Carolina. This is the bears have that little destiny tag. That's that's the trick of this game is the Rams.
00:24:02:26 - 00:24:25:02
Tom Green
It's Matthew Stafford's, you know, swan song. Possibly the end of the line for him as he gets closer to wrapping up his career and the bears. It's the dawn of the Caleb Williams era and that'll be interesting to see. It's it's interesting for as well as the bears have played that they would be getting three and a half at home.
00:24:25:05 - 00:24:25:27
Woody Paige
To turn.
00:24:26:00 - 00:24:29:10
Natasha
Oh no, I don't have.
00:24:29:16 - 00:24:33:26
Woody Paige
One of you like what I say, so I'm waiting on you to say it. I'm. I'm taking the Rams.
00:24:33:26 - 00:24:34:24
Natasha
Yeah. You're taking the I'm.
00:24:34:24 - 00:25:01:22
Woody Paige
I'm giving three and a half points. I think this is not going to be a close game unlike the Carolina game. I think Carolina being at home bears being at home. So it stands to reason that this would be a very close game, but I just think that, Stafford has a great game, and I think they have the better coach, and I think they have the better overall team.
00:25:01:24 - 00:25:07:22
Woody Paige
I think they have. The bears might have the best defense of the two, but it's going up against a great offensive team.
00:25:07:28 - 00:25:16:10
Tom Green
Certainly any game in Chicago in January. The weather can also have a really big impact, both on total, but also the way certain teams play.
00:25:16:10 - 00:25:25:06
Woody Paige
And I would in my examination of all these and say whether it's going to be a factor to.
00:25:25:08 - 00:25:48:25
Woody Paige
Be I think time of games, day of games is going to be a factor. Right? Because you got teams that are having to play on short weeks like the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, Buffalo Bills playing in Brock and and Denver. And a short week the Broncos have been rested for what 12 days or something. Yeah that that's going to be the difference in that game really.
00:25:48:25 - 00:25:48:29
Woody Paige
It's the.
00:25:48:29 - 00:25:50:15
Tom Green
Same for Houston I'm not going to go to New.
00:25:50:15 - 00:25:51:11
Natasha
England. Good thing.
00:25:51:11 - 00:26:11:05
Woody Paige
And it's not going to be affected by snow and weather like it would be in Buffalo that you always, you know, probably snowing two feet there. And I think that bears Rams is a game that has an influence by when it's being played at night.
00:26:11:07 - 00:26:12:01
Tom Green
Yeah. By then.
00:26:12:02 - 00:26:19:13
Woody Paige
By then it'll be nighttime. And whether the weather is whether the weather can the rams weather the weather.
00:26:19:17 - 00:26:20:21
Tom Green
We shall see. I, I.
00:26:20:21 - 00:26:21:06
Woody Paige
Think so.
00:26:21:09 - 00:26:39:04
Tom Green
Yeah, I like I said, I don't have a great handle on this game, but, underwhelmed with the Rams performance. Now the bears didn't exactly play a jam either. But boy did they finish fast. So, I'll take the three and a half. I'll take the bears at home, and we'll see what Soldier Field looks like when they wrap that one up on Sunday.
00:26:39:04 - 00:26:59:22
Tom Green
So how does it look as far as the Super Bowl odds, if you were to take, take a bet on a team right now, the Seattle Seahawks remain the favorite. The Rams are right behind them in second. The bills, the Patriots, the Texans all ahead of the number one seed in the AFC. The Broncos with the bears and 40 Niners at the bottom of the chart.
00:26:59:22 - 00:27:02:29
Tom Green
Do you see? Would you take the Seahawks or do you like any value in there?
00:27:02:29 - 00:27:30:17
Woody Paige
I was shocked it started out with the Rams being, lowest in terms of, betting odds, followed by the Seahawks and followed by the Broncos. And the Broncos have dropped from third when before the NFL playoffs started to down to what? What are they six now? Yeah yeah that that shocked me that, they talked all year about being disrespected.
00:27:30:17 - 00:27:44:26
Woody Paige
And I thought, why are you ending that talk? Because of those odds that you were the number one team in the AFC. So that would mean there's enough belief that you'd get to the Super.
00:27:44:26 - 00:27:46:24
Tom Green
Bowl, except when people are putting money down.
00:27:47:00 - 00:27:54:14
Woody Paige
But guess what? There's three AFC teams that are ahead of them now. They were number one. And they go to.
00:27:54:17 - 00:27:56:26
Tom Green
They're the last AFC team on the on the board.
00:27:56:26 - 00:28:05:08
Woody Paige
Buffalo's number one. New England's number two. The Texans are number three. In a AFC teams. And the Broncos are last in the.
00:28:05:15 - 00:28:06:00
Tom Green
Fourth of.
00:28:06:00 - 00:28:12:03
Woody Paige
Four is the number one seed playing at home against a team that won two fewer games. So you have.
00:28:12:03 - 00:28:33:05
Tom Green
To back that. I, I like the Broncos and Texans as far as value on the board. I'm I'm not always really going to lean in and play chalk on these things. So I think for me, I the way the Texans are playing and the Broncos position with the theoretical, you know, having to two home games to get to the Super Bowl and then to win it at plus 850.
00:28:33:11 - 00:28:34:29
Tom Green
That's a that's a pretty nice price.
00:28:34:29 - 00:28:59:22
Woody Paige
And if Sean Payton is looking for to make some noise this week like he talks about smaller markets in the yesterday a former coach was talking about how he wanted to, have a bus ride around the stadium after he beat the Carol out of person and the police wouldn't allow him to do it. But it's time for Sean Payton to get himself into some sort of trouble.
00:28:59:22 - 00:29:17:06
Woody Paige
Talking about I'm the best shot in the neighborhood and in the stadium on Sunday, but, I would put this up if I were the coach of the team. And knowing as I do that I once made fun of Jacksonville. And guess what? Jacksonville.
00:29:17:09 - 00:29:18:19
Speaker 5
I think reminder.
00:29:18:21 - 00:29:19:07
Woody Paige
Jaguars.
00:29:19:10 - 00:29:20:17
Tom Green
Flashback. Yeah.
00:29:20:19 - 00:29:42:20
Woody Paige
How are you? Better. Sorry about that. Nice play. But I'd put this. We're looking right at it. I would put this up in the locker room and say, guys, you were picked to be the worst team left in the AFC side of the little motivation. Yeah. That if that doesn't motivate the players.
00:29:42:22 - 00:29:57:07
Woody Paige
I don't think when you get to this you need much motivation. That's why I didn't believe Tom Kaufman when he said I was the reason why Jacksonville beat the Broncos in 1996. In the playoffs that I think you're motivated.
00:29:57:08 - 00:30:01:17
Natasha
Yeah, yeah, you should be. Or at the very least you shouldn't need. But I, I mean, my goodness.
00:30:01:17 - 00:30:06:04
Woody Paige
I would put this on the doorway and say guys look at this. Don't you find this in people.
00:30:06:04 - 00:30:07:14
Tom Green
Don't bias, people don't like.
00:30:07:14 - 00:30:22:20
Woody Paige
Us. Or if I were the coaching team, well, he's already kind of said that last year, after the Buffalo game, he thought, well, we got to figure out how to play one of these in our home, right? I'm sure Buffalo saying yeah. Yeah, well, we could do the same thing to you in Buffalo where where you play.
00:30:22:21 - 00:30:35:28
Woody Paige
I think this is the most, devastating thing that could be said about the Broncos. That you're the number one seed, you're playing at home, and you're the worst team in the AFC.
00:30:35:29 - 00:31:13:01
Tom Green
Nobody likes you guys. Nobody wants to back you Broncos. But let's go, to the college football championship game. The big one on Monday night. It's in Miami. And the University of Miami has rolled into this game playing fantastic football. And they are eight and a half point underdogs to the Indiana Hoosiers. It's an incredible line. It is about as high a compliment as you can pay to Kurt Signet's Hoosiers, to tell them that people still are backing you hard, even against a team that's playing great in their stadium or in their town anyway.
00:31:13:01 - 00:31:17:13
Tom Green
So it's, I think I think it's such an interesting line.
00:31:17:15 - 00:31:28:13
Woody Paige
Well, if it were Ole Miss, I would take the 88.5 difference, because Ole Miss, to me is still the most fascinating team to play. Because of all that was going.
00:31:28:13 - 00:31:29:11
Tom Green
On, they came close.
00:31:29:13 - 00:31:55:26
Woody Paige
They did hired defensive coordinator today it's a little late. They could've used him last week. But I'm taking Miami and the points because I think because they are they're not a soft team. They are going to play you down to the end. You're playing at home and I don't care how many Indiana people come down that there's still going to be, at least half the stadium is going to be right.
00:31:55:26 - 00:32:11:25
Woody Paige
I mean, people, they don't have a great fan base, but I, I think this their toughness and I've said this all along during the latter part of the season, Miami is the toughest team I saw. Indiana is the best team, best team I've seen in three years as.
00:32:11:25 - 00:32:12:11
Tom Green
Team we've seen.
00:32:12:12 - 00:32:15:15
Woody Paige
But I think this is going to stay close.
00:32:15:18 - 00:32:17:08
Tom Green
It's tough for me because I think the.
00:32:17:09 - 00:32:21:07
Woody Paige
Wins, but I take Miami to for to stay within. They
00:32:21:09 - 00:32:42:17
Tom Green
Yeah, it's funny, I think, of trying to get in front of Indiana, trying to bet against Indiana right now, a little bit like trying to catch a falling knife. They are just rolling. They don't seem to have been fazed at any part of this playoff so far. They've gone into big stadiums, played big name opponents and just whacks them.
00:32:42:20 - 00:33:02:09
Tom Green
So I like the Hoosiers to cover the number, which has got actually gone up now at eight and a half. But I also like the total to be over because these teams will score, will there will be plenty of points. That's my favorite bet is I like the over 48.5 in this game, but, hopefully it's a good game.
00:33:02:09 - 00:33:16:25
Tom Green
It's been one of the more interesting seasons. And, you know, you think of of where we've been in college football, the idea that Indiana can suddenly be here at the pinnacle, it tells you all you need to know about the new culture that is college football.
00:33:16:27 - 00:33:29:23
Woody Paige
I think we need to close with Natasha because despite the fact that she has a degree from Colorado, they're not in the playoffs. May never be, but she went to high school.
00:33:29:26 - 00:33:30:18
Tom Green
Miami?
00:33:30:20 - 00:33:31:01
Woody Paige
Yes.
00:33:31:01 - 00:33:32:05
Tom Green
So South Florida.
00:33:32:05 - 00:33:34:21
Woody Paige
Girl. So I assume. Well, some.
00:33:34:24 - 00:33:43:12
Natasha
Sort of a spot also like, you know, Colorado born and raised. Okay. But I did go to high school. Well, I, I just like to note that. Okay. But,
00:33:43:14 - 00:33:50:15
Woody Paige
Unfortunately, it's better than if I said that you with the Key West on a vacation. You did go to high school.
00:33:50:15 - 00:33:51:10
Natasha
In short.
00:33:51:10 - 00:33:52:10
Woody Paige
Southern Florida.
00:33:52:12 - 00:33:53:15
Natasha
I know, but still the majority.
00:33:53:16 - 00:33:56:16
Woody Paige
You never had any feeling. Did you ever go to one of their games you did there?
00:33:56:16 - 00:34:18:05
Natasha
Oh, absolutely. Well, so I was about to say, I know some some pretty hardcore people. A lot of my graduating class is going to be angry when I do as well. Take Indiana. I think it's going to be a really great game, but and it'll be close, I think it'll be the best game that Indiana faces. But, they're going to pull it out.
00:34:18:08 - 00:34:23:17
Tom Green
Well, I tell you what, it's just I think it's so shocking because these two teams are battling.
00:34:23:17 - 00:34:29:05
Woody Paige
So you stay within 8.5 points. I'm pulling it out.
00:34:29:08 - 00:34:30:27
Natasha
So well pull out the win.
00:34:30:29 - 00:34:42:05
Woody Paige
If they scored a touchdown at the end, that or a field goal, that would be pulling it out. If you like Indiana so much, you'd say, they're rolling to the national championship.
00:34:42:07 - 00:34:43:05
Natasha
Okay. Rolling.
00:34:43:05 - 00:34:52:29
Tom Green
So if you're like Ron and you've made enough money gambling to just take a week away from your job and go on some exotic vacation, you know, that's that's one thing. But some of us need to.
00:34:53:03 - 00:35:03:18
Woody Paige
We should mention, though, the rod did say last week that he hoped Aaron Rodgers got his ass kicked. And rod was right about that is I wish came true.
00:35:03:21 - 00:35:24:02
Tom Green
Well, we hope you guys enjoy all the football games. Those are really good football matchups. And, you know, our advice is always, as you can tell, is given with sincerity and preparation, the likes of which you won't get anywhere else. So good luck. This weekend on the weekend betting edition. And, we're, of course, also doing After the Horn, every week.
00:35:24:02 - 00:35:31:09
Tom Green
So you can catch us on either show right here, or you can drop us a line at at Gorilla Sportsnet.
00:35:31:12 - 00:35:39:13
Woody Paige
For people that, have, eyesight problems or. Yeah, are listening to us on a podcast, would you like to me?
00:35:39:13 - 00:35:47:22
Tom Green
Oh, I forgot. Yeah, right behind Woody. I got the chalkboard. It's as I purposely serve as a cautionary tale to everyone. That's our guide.
00:35:47:22 - 00:35:49:17
Natasha
To being bit of a tagline for the show.
00:35:49:19 - 00:35:58:05
Tom Green
Sacrificing Natasha. Woody. Thanks. We'll see you guys next week. We hope to see you as well again. Here on After the Horn.
00:35:58:07 - 00:35:59:03
Natasha
Go Broncos!