After the Horn

After the Horn Ep. 23 Weekend Betting Edition | CFB Playoffs First Round + NFL Week 16

Episode Summary

The After the Horn crew is back with their Weekend Betting Edition, breaking down the biggest games across college football and the NFL as the postseason picture tightens. Tom Green, Woody Paige, and Ron Zappolo dive into College Football Playoff implications, marquee SEC matchups, and a loaded NFL slate that includes a massive Broncos–Jaguars showdown at Empower Field.

Episode Notes

The Weekend Betting Edition of After the Horn returns with Tom Green, Woody Paige, and Ron Zappolo delivering sharp analysis, strong opinions, and plenty of laughs as they run through the biggest games of the week. The conversation starts with major College Football Playoff matchups, including Alabama vs. Oklahoma, Miami vs. Texas A&M, Ole Miss vs. Tulane, and James Madison’s tough road test at Oregon, with plenty of debate over spreads, motivation, and coaching situations.

On the NFL side, the crew breaks down Rams vs. Seahawks, Packers vs. Bears, Buccaneers vs. Panthers, Chargers vs. Cowboys, and a pivotal AFC matchup between the Broncos and Jaguars. The guys discuss why Denver continues to be undervalued by Vegas, Bo Nix’s recent surge, and what this game could mean for the Broncos down the stretch. They also dive into Steelers vs. Lions, Patriots vs. Ravens on Sunday night, and 49ers vs. Colts on Monday Night Football, mixing betting strategy with larger conversations about quarterbacks, coaching decisions, and playoff pressure.

As always, the show blends sharp betting insight with classic After the Horn banter, making this a must-listen heading into a packed football weekend.

Episode Transcription

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Tom Green

I'll start us off. Get us, get us going.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Get us.

 

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Tom Green

Going. Get to the Friday night game.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Just cut right to the chip.

 

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Woody Paige

And I was telling my own.

 

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Natasha

Joke right there. So.

 

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Woody Paige

But you can't see. He said he see. He. John said he was going to make it where you could see it on the big. But we don't want to. How about if I lean over.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Like.

 

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Woody Paige

Can you see it?

 

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Ron Zappolo

Well, the problem is with those wide shots you can't see.

 

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Tom Green

No, but on the single body, it's over a shoulder.

 

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Natasha

And when you can actually read it.

 

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Woody Paige

Yeah. Because I want to make sure this one for today gets in.

 

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Tom Green

Okay. Ready. Here we go.

 

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Woody Paige

What's there for you? The first one. Yes.

 

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Tom Green

All right. Here we go. Welcome back to After the Horn, the weekend betting edition. I was just going over the numbers, fellas. Last week, 71%. And our five star plays 80%. And our gold star special came in by 35 points.

 

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Ron Zappolo

We all took Denver. That's it.

 

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Tom Green

That was a nice cover. Nice cover by the Broncos, covered by the Broncos.

 

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Ron Zappolo

A little shaky when it was 23 to 14. But we were all on them all the way.

 

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Tom Green

Well that's you bet on the final score right? Right. Yeah. That's how that works.

 

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Ron Zappolo

All right. What do we got this week.

 

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Tom Green

So we got a lot of big college football games. We start with the Friday night, the first game that will determine who advances in the college Football Playoff. Alabama and Oklahoma a rematch this time though in Norman. But Alabama's a one and a half point favorite.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Oklahoma.

 

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Tom Green

That's your analysis.

 

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Ron Zappolo

That's my analysis I told you we're going to get through this quick. I'm a little pissed off because I see this sign behind.

 

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Tom Green

Yeah, well, let's take a look.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Scenarios Apollo gets one. Football. That's it boys, I'm want you guys to run.

 

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Tom Green

Come back, come back. We can't do the show without you.

 

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Woody Paige

Oh, I liked you leaving, I tell you.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Hey, I could leave you. I'm going to give up everything. We've been paid on this and leave everything.

 

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Tom Green

Yes, Roddy. And you're out. You're down on mortgage payments still. So you like Oklahoma getting the point and a half at home? What are your take on this one?

 

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Woody Paige

Based on what he just said, I'm taking. Yeah. Alabama. He he doesn't get anything right. So I'm taking Alabama Oklahoma. In the past I would take Oklahoma. I don't think they're as good as Alabama a be I don't think there is intimidating at home as they used to be.

 

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Tom Green

These two teams had both quarterbacks. Both of those quarterbacks were high in the Heisman I don't know. One more point and they have tailed off.

 

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Ron Zappolo

But Oklahoma's Tom Oklahoma's defense is better than Alabama.

 

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Tom Green

Their offense is the same as Alabama.

 

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Ron Zappolo

They're both terrible. I think the Alabama quarterback is worse than the Oklahoma quarterback.

 

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Tom Green

So you're going to go Oklahoma. Yeah, Woody is is just playing off you. He's going to take Alabama. And you play the one and a half I'm going to say Alabama goes in and wins.

 

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Woody Paige

This is a trend for me today. Yeah you're getting a.

 

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Tom Green

This is your way. You're traveling all right Saturday.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Now I'm writing these down by the way.

 

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Tom Green

So Saturday Miami Texas A&M probably the best game at least as far as the matchups I think. Miami and Texas A&M, Texas A&M a three point pick at home. And the total this one goes a lot higher. Up to 51.5.

 

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Woody Paige

Woody, would you please no ask support first because.

 

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Tom Green

Oh, you. That's how your.

 

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Woody Paige

Key. That's my trend.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Texas A&M all the way. The three. I think they're better football team than mine.

 

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Woody Paige

I told you guys all year long that I thought Texas A&M was unappreciated team. And unfortunately for me I can't go against you.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Oh my.

 

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Woody Paige

God. So I'm going with Texas A&M.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Okay I better my my mind is good.

 

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Woody Paige

I think they played a better schedule here in the SEC. Miami's in the SEC. Give me Texas.

 

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Tom Green

A&M. All right I'm going to I'm going to ride the same ride I like Texas A&M. Minus three I like better defense. And their quarterback play.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Better well guys because I've got Oklahoma next game.

 

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Tom Green

Well so here's what's interesting. So those first two games ABC games. And now you see why TNT gets these other games. They go to games with the giant spread. They suck Ole Miss beat Tulane by 35 earlier in the year. Tulane's coach is leaving but he's coaching the game Ole Miss his coach is left.

 

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Ron Zappolo

But he's not coaching the.

 

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Tom Green

Game. But the rebels.

 

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Ron Zappolo

I would highly recommend not betting this game, but if you want to play this game, take Ole Miss and lay the 17.5.

 

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Woody Paige

You already mentioned it, but I thought it's funny to sit there and look at two teams that the coaches are gone, but one of them is staying. Yeah, to coach his team. I'm going to go with Tulane because I think that Ole Miss is just in a scatter brained situation here. And I, I think that the players are going to play really hard for their coach leaving.

 

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Woody Paige

So, I mean, they did play once before.

 

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Tom Green

Well, that's what I'm saying. The line is half of what the team ended up. The game ended up last time.

 

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Woody Paige

Yeah. That and I was that was going to be my final thing, I think. Tulane I'm not saying Tulane is going to win the game. I'm saying that they're going to stay within 7 to 17.5 points.

 

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Tom Green

I'm going to go with. And as it says on their Ole Miss all Olé. Yeah.

 

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Ron Zappolo

They got a good football team. I mean I know they, they, they got a good football team. They'll, they'll.

 

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Tom Green

Yeah I like a win obviously Trinidad Chambliss same.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Thing here I wouldn't play this game. It's a bad game. It's one of the problems with this tournament. If you have to play it lay the 21.5.

 

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Tom Green

What a you're a fan of American history James Madison was it was notable in many ways.

 

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Woody Paige

James Madison had a home that was four miles from from Thomas Jefferson.

 

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Tom Green

Really.

 

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Woody Paige

Right. And they could actually see each other. And, Madison would take his, horse and wagon and go over to Jefferson's house to have, dinner. And dinner was served during that period of time in the middle of the day. Right. And that's why in the South, when I was growing up, it was breakfast. Dinner than supper.

 

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Woody Paige

But over the years, dinner has become the night.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Hold on. Can I interrupt you for a second? Natasha, did you not comb Woody's hair before we started? No. What the hell?

 

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Woody Paige

I was going with this. This is.

 

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Natasha

I can't be blamed on me anymore. He picks his own hair now.

 

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Tom Green

No, but it's good to see that you have a convertible. It's been warm.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Lately. No.

 

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Woody Paige

No, the truth is, it's it's it's it's what I call, uncontrollable chaos.

 

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Ron Zappolo

It's fine. I like.

 

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Tom Green

You. Got to be you. So you're picking James Madison?

 

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Woody Paige

I got more hair than the two of you.

 

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Tom Green

So you like James Madison because of the supper dinner, lunch thing?

 

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Woody Paige

I had great appreciation for James Madison. I think he was an under appreciated, president. And so I'm also thinking they're. They people are laughing at James Madison. James, stay with James mad.

 

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Tom Green

We call.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Them stay take you gotta.

 

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Woody Paige

Stay within 21.

 

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Tom Green

Okay. I think going to Oregon is tough on anyone. And if you're James Madison.

 

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Woody Paige

They do have the best quarterback people. He was not in the top three. He is the best. He's going to be drafted.

 

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Ron Zappolo

But you know what do you I saw something I think it was yesterday that, I don't know if was Mel Kiper somebody to your point that day Moore is ranked ahead of Fernando Mendoza.

 

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Woody Paige

Yeah.

 

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Tom Green

As far as playing in the pro yeah.

 

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Woody Paige

He has been unappreciated.

 

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Tom Green

Orton's a great place to play. We'll see if, Oregon fans turned out this could be the home field. You know, obviously all four teams that have home field advantages this week have a big one. I don't think none is none as big as Oregon. So that's a lot of lumber. But I'll lay the 21.5 because they do a lot of lumber in Oregon.

 

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Ron Zappolo

What a great game. This is probably the game of the weekend here in the.

 

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Tom Green

National Football League. The Thursday night a Rams and Seahawks the Seahawks we're able to get past old man rivers. Not a lot of people thought they could beat Philip Rivers, but they they did did not look impressive.

 

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Ron Zappolo

The Rams on.

 

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Tom Green

The Rams look impressive every week. And they'll be playing one and a half going to Seattle, which is a pretty surprising line when you consider as good as Seattle is. And the size of their normal home field advantage.

 

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Ron Zappolo

But they're without Davante Adams.

 

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Tom Green

The Rams are yeah yeah.

 

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Woody Paige

But the Seahawks did not score a touchdown in that victory. Their offense has stunk I fully believe the Rams are the more impressive team coming in. Even though it's, at a place where the 13th man.

 

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Tom Green

Yeah it's almost a pick. You only have to win by I'm going.

 

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Ron Zappolo

To agree with Woody on this. I'm going to I'm going to go with Matthew Stafford. Yeah mean Sam Darnold.

 

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Woody Paige

I we talked about it in the previous. You show that we did that. You don't know who's going to be in the Super Bowl. And it's wide open. Guess what. The MVP's like that yeah Stafford has.

 

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Tom Green

I think he's the strongest candidate by a bit.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Josh Allen's coming up quick on the outside. Yeah.

 

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Woody Paige

But his Nick's is a dark horse. Real dark horse. Real talk. But the way he's now beginning to play, if he'd played that way he.

 

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Tom Green

Might be a top five candidate right now in the MVP. I think Bo Nix might be there. I think the trick on this one is, is taking Seattle on that Thursday night road. It's so hard for Thursday night road teams. So I just I would like it if I was get more than one and a half, but I think I'm going to try the Seahawks on this one and see if they can, take control of the NFC West.

 

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Tom Green

Here's a rematch from two weeks ago in green Bay. The Packers won a couple of weeks ago. A close game went down almost the last play with Caleb Williams throwing an interception. The Packers, though, will be favored. Still one and a half point picks going to Soldier Field to take on the bears. This is an important game because there's a big difference between winning that division and being near the bottom of the NFC playoff picture.

 

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Woody Paige

Packers go from first to seventh.

 

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Tom Green

It could happen fast. Yeah life comes.

 

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Woody Paige

I'm going to go ahead and take this. I said to you a week ago that the Broncos would beat the Packers because the Packers were looking at those bookend games, right. The Chicago Bears that that's their mind was more on the division team and winning the division. I got the Packers here. I have them going away winning this game because this was the game they cared about, not the one in Denver you're.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Not worried about, Micah Parsons not being there?

 

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Woody Paige

Really? What did he do Sunday night? He chased Bo Nix down for a while.

 

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Tom Green

But even if guys like that don't make plays, you spent so much time accounting for them, and you spend you spend personnel accounting.

 

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Ron Zappolo

He's one of the 2 or 3 best defensive players in the league.

 

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Tom Green

This is another schedule game for me, though, because green Bay had to come to Denver. Now they have to go to Chicago. It's a Saturday night game. It's a short, short week for them. Obviously both teams well within each other minutes to get. It's not even that. It's just a Saturday night, a road game. It takes you out of your comfort zone.

 

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Tom Green

They got home late on on Sunday night.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Taking the bears.

 

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Tom Green

I like the bears at home and the bears with a chance really to take control of that division.

 

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Ron Zappolo

All right, I'll go with you. You convince me, I'll go to those two next.

 

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Tom Green

I didn't mean to do. Really, I tell.

 

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Woody Paige

You, I bet you. But no.

 

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Ron Zappolo

I wouldn't bet that game. Because, honest to God, a bears Packers. No, I wouldn't bet it. I don't. You could pick 100 experts in a room 50 would like the bears, 50 would like the Packers in a game like that. Leave it alone. Sometimes there's better games to bet.

 

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Tom Green

Like like the big one. Well, there's seven and seven. The Buccaneers.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Panthers. Another game that I would stay away.

 

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Tom Green

From a couple of seven and seven teams showing.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Which team is playing worse. You tell me.

 

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Tom Green

Well Tampa Bay getting healthier. But what a loss they took.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Getting worse and worse by the way.

 

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Tom Green

They are struggling. They are still three point favorites going to Carolina to play the Panthers. This one would also pretty much amount to an elimination game for these teams. So you know it's Bryce Young and Baker Mayfield. It's an interesting coaching matchup too. And Todd Bowles a tough week.

 

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Woody Paige

I think Mayfield is still upset over what they did in the last game.

 

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Tom Green

Atlanta.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Loss.

 

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Woody Paige

Yes. And he took a lot of the blame. And guess what. The coach blamed a lot of the players. Yeah. And must have had him on his long list of players who didn't didn't really get up for the game.

 

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Ron Zappolo

I enjoyed the rant though.

 

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Woody Paige

Yeah I, I mean I've never.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Seen of so guys so mild mannered say fuck so many.

 

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Tom Green

Seven times I.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Think there was. Yeah, yeah.

 

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Tom Green

Just rolled off his tongue. Yeah. So who do you guys like Tampa Bay a 3.5.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Again I wouldn't bet it but I'm going to I'll take Tampa Bay play.

 

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Woody Paige

This. Yes. Me too. I'm going.

 

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Tom Green

Yeah I'll go the other way. I think it's a tight game and I'll take the home team just getting the three and we'll see what happens. Another important game especially for Denver Broncos fans of the Chargers and the Cowboys. Boy, the Cowboys really let go of the rope on Sunday night against the like.

 

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Ron Zappolo

You know what? That was inexcusable. I mean you you got everything to play.

 

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Tom Green

For and you're playing like.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Reception on the second or third play of the game. You're up seven nothing. And the next thing you know, you make JJ McCarthy look like the rookie of the year. I think the Chargers very quietly. I don't think they're a great team. But they got something going character.

 

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Tom Green

They a lot of character.

 

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Ron Zappolo

They play. They're the they're playing the image of their coach. I'm going to take the Chargers. And I'm going to take the point in a half.

 

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Woody Paige

I'm going to take the Cowboys. Because you said the Chargers. And I think I think the Cowboys have been on such a bad roll that they've got to have one game left in them against a good team that they win.

 

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Ron Zappolo

I think they packed it in.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Well let's see. What do you think Tom. Excuse me.

 

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Woody Paige

At the time.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Tom is like not really.

 

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Tom Green

I'm over here joking. Well, I think for another die.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Yeah. Before you digest your pick on this game.

 

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Tom Green

I think the Chargers win the game. They that's what they do. They win games. So I think they win the game I mean so you know.

 

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Ron Zappolo

I want to see that last game in Denver.

 

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Tom Green

Means Chargers come to death.

 

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Ron Zappolo

At the end.

 

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Tom Green

Yeah okay I like the under though I think that's awfully high. Chargers don't play those types of football games. And I could see them keeping that. They'll dictate terms.

 

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Woody Paige

You take the light at 1.5 is too too much.

 

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Tom Green

I know I'm saying the Chargers are going to win the game. So you know I like getting the point now.

 

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Ron Zappolo

So the Chargers I'm with you I like the Chargers.

 

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Woody Paige

No Cowboys.

 

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Ron Zappolo

All right how about them.

 

00;15;09;08 - 00;15;10;22

Woody Paige

Oh come crying to me next week.

 

00;15;10;22 - 00;15;11;29

Ron Zappolo

All right. Yeah.

 

00;15;12;01 - 00;15;28;18

Tom Green

Here's a big AFC showdown. The Jacksonville Jaguars are rolling. So the Broncos and the Broncos haven't lost at home in quite some time. Denver is just a three point pick. And I say just because that's about what you get for playing at home. So I think most people are thinking this game is a toss up.

 

00;15;28;18 - 00;15;40;00

Ron Zappolo

Again, Denver doesn't get enough respect. They were a home dog last week against green Bay. They're basically telling you that these two teams are equal. I don't believe they are. I think Denver's better make mine. Denver.

 

00;15;40;03 - 00;15;46;26

Woody Paige

It's been odd about the Broncos claiming we don't get any respect. You're not getting any respect from Las Vegas.

 

00;15;46;26 - 00;15;50;05

Ron Zappolo

Yeah that's that's that's not good. Which is really the bad guys right.

 

00;15;50;05 - 00;15;52;28

Woody Paige

Yeah I mean they were you know they were underdogs like.

 

00;15;53;00 - 00;15;54;03

Ron Zappolo

Three point favorite.

 

00;15;54;08 - 00;16;18;03

Woody Paige

I think they're misrepresenting who's respecting them because Vegas is not still not interested in picking them. So that that is as you said, that that is a neutral field kind of right line there. I'm not I'm not going to say anything bad about the Jaguars because the 1996 I got into deep trouble.

 

00;16;18;03 - 00;16;19;13

Tom Green

You're you're already there.

 

00;16;19;18 - 00;16;19;25

Ron Zappolo

Yeah.

 

00;16;19;25 - 00;16;34;10

Woody Paige

You're already I wouldn't be I wouldn't be here today if anybody had carried out the death threat in Jacksonville. And then I went down there and spoke at their state sports banquet. And I wore what the quarterbacks wear.

 

00;16;34;16 - 00;16;36;14

Ron Zappolo

Kevlar vest, you know.

 

00;16;36;17 - 00;16;38;05

Tom Green

So are you you're taking Jackson.

 

00;16;38;06 - 00;16;39;04

Ron Zappolo

He's taking no.

 

00;16;39;04 - 00;16;46;29

Woody Paige

He's not saying anything bad about them. I'm saying they have had a great year. This may be their best team ever.

 

00;16;46;29 - 00;16;51;05

Tom Green

They didn't start out that way though. They look to be another Jacksonville Jaguars team.

 

00;16;51;05 - 00;16;54;07

Ron Zappolo

Liam Cohen is one of those guys. I may be coming up on coach.

 

00;16;54;07 - 00;16;58;28

Woody Paige

Of the year like Lance a lot more than I liked him to team in the league.

 

00;16;58;29 - 00;17;06;19

Tom Green

What's weird about them? I think they played better since Travis Hunter got hurt, and I'm not sure if there's a relationship there or not.

 

00;17;06;21 - 00;17;07;21

Ron Zappolo

Was he wasn't.

 

00;17;07;21 - 00;17;08;16

Woody Paige

Playing enough.

 

00;17;08;17 - 00;17;14;20

Tom Green

Really? No he wasn't. He wasn't making impact, but he was taking a lot of snaps on both sides of the ball. So it's just interesting.

 

00;17;14;25 - 00;17;23;26

Ron Zappolo

In Trevor Lawrence, they're kind of a faceless team, but they have a lot of good young players. They're obviously getting coached up and I do respect what they've done. I just think.

 

00;17;23;28 - 00;17;25;08

Woody Paige

Of Marcus when they're.

 

00;17;25;08 - 00;17;26;01

Ron Zappolo

Doing it in.

 

00;17;26;03 - 00;17;30;01

Tom Green

Jacksonville's doing the hardest thing there is to do right now in the NFL. Let's go into.

 

00;17;30;01 - 00;17;37;19

Woody Paige

Denver. I'm going to make a statement here. They win the last three games I thought they had to win two out of three. They're going to win in Kansas City I.

 

00;17;37;19 - 00;17;38;17

Tom Green

Mean you talked about the Broncos.

 

00;17;38;17 - 00;17;41;11

Ron Zappolo

Yeah yeah. You should. Absolutely.

 

00;17;41;14 - 00;17;50;10

Tom Green

I like the Broncos two I hate the number because that's what the Broncos do. They play minus three games. You know they play games where they they kick the field goal.

 

00;17;50;10 - 00;17;53;26

Ron Zappolo

And they've only had two of their wins have been more than one score.

 

00;17;54;02 - 00;18;04;22

Tom Green

Yeah. So I'm not a big fan of the number which means I probably lean on the total instead. And so I'll take the over on the total because certainly looks the last few weeks like Bo Nix has found his stride. And,

 

00;18;04;29 - 00;18;05;26

Ron Zappolo

So is Trevor Lawrence.

 

00;18;05;26 - 00;18;08;08

Tom Green

We'll see what the Broncos running game looks like.

 

00;18;08;08 - 00;18;20;06

Woody Paige

Don't you wish that he would do two things pass more on the run because he's most effective when he's moving. Two that he would get on the run more just I'd.

 

00;18;20;07 - 00;18;27;27

Tom Green

Like tuck it and go, yeah, well, we'll see if that opportunity appears this week against Jacksonville. Big game though. That'll shake up the way.

 

00;18;27;27 - 00;18;31;15

Woody Paige

The air is starting safety though. One of their safeties is down.

 

00;18;31;21 - 00;18;32;04

Ron Zappolo

Yeah he's out.

 

00;18;32;05 - 00;18;39;01

Tom Green

Well and also RJ Harvey is hurt and two they're they're they're thin at running back. So you're going to see a lot of Julio McLaughlin I think they'll.

 

00;18;39;01 - 00;18;39;13

Ron Zappolo

Figure it.

 

00;18;39;13 - 00;18;49;04

Tom Green

Out. Yeah. And Tony buddy. All right. The Steelers who just muscled the Miami Dolphins into the dirt on Monday night. Anybody but.

 

00;18;49;07 - 00;18;49;18

Natasha

Day.

 

00;18;49;19 - 00;18;51;02

Tom Green

The day. That's it by day.

 

00;18;51;03 - 00;18;57;18

Natasha

I wish it was Barry. We looked into that because I would go with that. But he picked. It's not. There's the story behind the think of.

 

00;18;57;25 - 00;19;02;06

Tom Green

Yeah. No but he he should have he should have bought a consonant one more day Batty.

 

00;19;02;09 - 00;19;17;05

Ron Zappolo

I like the Lions. I think the Steelers I give them credit the last couple of weeks. But the Lions are desperate. They're on the outside looking in the I think in that insider, you get the Steelers out of the bad weather. I think the Lions are going to win by ten.

 

00;19;17;12 - 00;19;33;03

Woody Paige

Campbell said, he thinks the players get it now that they get it, that they on a bubble and they've got to get off the ball. And I watching that game, I didn't I didn't much like the Steelers last night. They were playing gets the really bad.

 

00;19;33;03 - 00;19;37;26

Ron Zappolo

Yeah I mean you know even at halftime I thought this is kind of ugly. Here's the three.

 

00;19;37;26 - 00;19;40;25

Woody Paige

And they got three three scores.

 

00;19;41;01 - 00;19;43;28

Ron Zappolo

And two of them made some ridicule.

 

00;19;43;28 - 00;19;45;08

Tom Green

Played one of those games that.

 

00;19;45;08 - 00;20;00;21

Ron Zappolo

He, they got an interesting situation with two they own 54 million next year. And I want to see Mike McDaniel keep the job. He's not he's probably not. And they got to make a decision. Do they do what Denver did with Russell Wilson?

 

00;20;00;24 - 00;20;01;07

Tom Green

Eat it.

 

00;20;01;07 - 00;20;08;18

Ron Zappolo

Bite the bullet. Yeah. And move on. Or do they say one more year of Tua at 54 million tonight?

 

00;20;08;19 - 00;20;11;15

Tom Green

It's a lot of money. Yeah it's a lot of money for pretty.

 

00;20;11;21 - 00;20;12;18

Ron Zappolo

For somebody who's.

 

00;20;12;18 - 00;20;27;23

Tom Green

Sporadic you can't be sporadic at quarterback I mean you can have highs but you just can't have the lows that he he shows. So that's why this is an interesting number for me. Is is the over under. I just I just think the way Pittsburgh plays, it's hard to see that game get.

 

00;20;27;25 - 00;20;29;07

Ron Zappolo

Into a lot of over unders.

 

00;20;29;10 - 00;20;36;02

Tom Green

That's because I don't like the Lions much this week, but I Detroit's a better team with more to play for. Pittsburgh strikes me as a.

 

00;20;36;05 - 00;20;41;05

Ron Zappolo

You don't need the game. If they beat Baltimore they're going to win the division. Whether they win this game or lose this.

 

00;20;41;06 - 00;20;43;11

Tom Green

Well they probably like to stay a game ahead.

 

00;20;43;14 - 00;20;48;01

Ron Zappolo

Yes they would, but it's win or lose. It's going to come down to the game against Baltimore.

 

00;20;48;02 - 00;21;02;00

Tom Green

If you're drafting the best offensive players in football outside of quarterbacks, I'm on Amon-ra Saint Brown and Jamir Gibbs would be the two really high picks. I mean, they have and they're you know what they get out of their tight end.

 

00;21;02;05 - 00;21;03;09

Ron Zappolo

How are they eight and six.

 

00;21;03;10 - 00;21;04;27

Tom Green

That's what the problem is.

 

00;21;04;27 - 00;21;16;12

Woody Paige

Why he said I think that's why I said that. We finally got it. The players finally got it, that they were kind of, I think, playing on what happened the last couple years.

 

00;21;16;12 - 00;21;17;07

Tom Green

Yeah.

 

00;21;17;09 - 00;21;24;12

Woody Paige

And they kind of backed off. It was almost like a team that loses the Super Bowl never plays.

 

00;21;24;14 - 00;21;41;28

Tom Green

You know they play so hard. You look at teams like them. And I think the 40 niners too who play at such a high rate and a lot of impact, you know play to play. And they get hurt and they get hurt. And it just seems like they end up thin at the end of the year. But if I'm betting the game I'm taking Detroit, I'm laying the seven.

 

00;21;41;28 - 00;22;03;11

Tom Green

I like them at home. I'm not a big fan of what the Steelers have done this year. So all right, Patriots and Ravens. This will be the Sunday night nighter. The Ravens have just been the Ghost of Ravens past the Patriots last week looked like they were going to keep their roll going 21 nothing up on Buffalo at home that got away from them.

 

00;22;03;13 - 00;22;06;15

Tom Green

And now they're chasing. And Baltimore is a three point pick.

 

00;22;06;18 - 00;22;21;25

Ron Zappolo

I got to think the Patriots are going to bounce back. Will be interesting to see how Mike Vrabel will handle the first loss in like three months. I think the Ravens are highly motivated, but I just think the Patriots are better. I'm going to take that field goal and take the Patriots.

 

00;22;21;27 - 00;22;32;21

Woody Paige

I called my friend who's a columnist in Baltimore and I said, what's the situation there? He said, all I can tell you is I'm not going to quote the Ravens anymore. He said, we're just playing.

 

00;22;32;24 - 00;22;33;03

Ron Zappolo

So.

 

00;22;33;03 - 00;22;33;24

Woody Paige

Horrible.

 

00;22;33;27 - 00;22;36;01

Tom Green

Poll had to say, wait a Poe?

 

00;22;36;03 - 00;22;39;03

Woody Paige

Yeah, yeah. I think the Raiders are going to win.

 

00;22;39;05 - 00;22;40;04

Ron Zappolo

Okay. We got.

 

00;22;40;06 - 00;22;41;08

Woody Paige

Be patient.

 

00;22;41;11 - 00;22;44;10

Tom Green

You like the Ravens covering though. They gotta they gotta win by four.

 

00;22;44;11 - 00;22;45;27

Ron Zappolo

I gotta win by four.

 

00;22;45;29 - 00;22;47;13

Tom Green

Yeah okay.

 

00;22;47;15 - 00;22;49;00

Ron Zappolo

Yeah yeah. Oh good. Yeah.

 

00;22;49;01 - 00;22;52;02

Tom Green

That's not exactly a mortgage payment bet. Like. Sure. Why not?

 

00;22;52;06 - 00;22;53;21

Ron Zappolo

Tom?

 

00;22;53;24 - 00;23;08;06

Tom Green

I'm going to take Baltimore as well. I think the Sunday night, you know, we'll see if that electric electrifies Lamar Jackson. The Ravens, their fans would also thrust them into those final two games of the season when they know how.

 

00;23;08;08 - 00;23;20;17

Woody Paige

To be serious about it, they know they still have a chance. And how many? There's been like three seasons of that of the last 6 or 7. Were they right down the stretch? He had to win a game. And it's just.

 

00;23;20;17 - 00;23;24;13

Tom Green

Not the Ravens you're used to. They're just not that enough.

 

00;23;24;16 - 00;23;26;24

Woody Paige

And the Baltimore columnist told me that they're not.

 

00;23;26;24 - 00;23;28;04

Ron Zappolo

That's why I don't go into.

 

00;23;28;04 - 00;23;30;04

Woody Paige

The lock because I don't want a quote.

 

00;23;30;06 - 00;23;34;10

Ron Zappolo

Okay. Patriots and Oklahoma. Those are my two of Texas.

 

00;23;34;12 - 00;23;36;25

Tom Green

And one last we got one last game.

 

00;23;36;25 - 00;23;40;05

Woody Paige

They had don't have a Tell-Tale heart.

 

00;23;40;08 - 00;23;47;12

Tom Green

The Monday nighter, John Brodie will lead the 40 niners against Philip Rivers and the. Well, I don't know, is rivers going to play they.

 

00;23;47;12 - 00;23;48;09

Ron Zappolo

Yes. He's starting.

 

00;23;48;09 - 00;23;48;21

Woody Paige

Yes.

 

00;23;48;27 - 00;23;52;26

Tom Green

Oh, Anthony Richardson's getting healthy. And, why would Riley.

 

00;23;53;02 - 00;23;59;07

Ron Zappolo

Riley Leonard when you can get Mr. Dead gunman out there. Mr.. Dead gum it I love them.

 

00;23;59;07 - 00;24;07;09

Tom Green

The Colts are just absolutely flailing. And while the rivers story was a good one, they lost the game. And they have gone from a sure thing.

 

00;24;07;09 - 00;24;09;13

Ron Zappolo

They lost playoff battle and they covered.

 

00;24;09;15 - 00;24;17;06

Tom Green

Right. But they they've gone from being a powerful playoff team that people were afraid of having to meet. They're now they are on.

 

00;24;17;06 - 00;24;22;19

Ron Zappolo

The one I love. Monday night home dogs make mind old man rivers. I'll take the five and a half.

 

00;24;22;19 - 00;24;27;17

Woody Paige

Oh, man River, he just keeps rolling.

 

00;24;27;19 - 00;24;36;00

Tom Green

You see, do you see people talked about the Hall of Fame clock being pushed back five years. But he also gets health care for him and his 11 kids.

 

00;24;36;02 - 00;24;36;09

Ron Zappolo

For.

 

00;24;36;09 - 00;24;38;25

Tom Green

Five more years. It was just about to run out.

 

00;24;38;25 - 00;24;57;27

Ron Zappolo

But you know what I don't I think he's a borderline Hall of Famer. I don't really think he is a Hall of Famer. So I don't think he gives much thought to that. Yeah, I think he loves playing football. Yeah, a lot of guys. And he jumped at the chance and he's having a good time. And I think that he feels like the country is behind him.

 

00;24;58;00 - 00;25;00;08

Ron Zappolo

Well yeah. Yeah. And I think they are.

 

00;25;00;10 - 00;25;14;12

Tom Green

Well he'll get he'll get a chance to do it at home. The 40 niners have been quite a story this year trying to keep it all together. But in hidden in their in some ways is their best player has been their best player Christian McCaffrey. He's had a terrific season.

 

00;25;14;12 - 00;25;24;24

Woody Paige

I was going to say I thought he looked healthy and looked as we see him when he's in,

 

00;25;24;26 - 00;25;27;26

Tom Green

His commercials.

 

00;25;27;29 - 00;25;28;19

Ron Zappolo

Yeah.

 

00;25;28;21 - 00;25;45;19

Woody Paige

Now when he's in is the sincerity right. Not being hurt and five different places on his body. He looked, he looked good to me. A culture just terrible at this point. I mean, they just.

 

00;25;45;21 - 00;25;50;20

Ron Zappolo

Yeah, they are. They're so terrible that it took a 60 yard field goal to beat them at the gun.

 

00;25;50;23 - 00;25;52;13

Tom Green

I mean, they they went to Seattle.

 

00;25;52;13 - 00;25;53;29

Woody Paige

And how many points did they have?

 

00;25;54;00 - 00;25;55;02

Ron Zappolo

16.

 

00;25;55;05 - 00;25;55;20

Woody Paige

Yeah.

 

00;25;55;23 - 00;25;56;25

Tom Green

Yeah, they didn't they they held.

 

00;25;57;01 - 00;26;16;25

Ron Zappolo

Seattle to 18. I mean I'm not saying they're any good. I agree with you. But listen this the 40 niners and I don't want to I think Kyle Shanahan's done a remarkable job. They are still loaded with injuries on defense. This is not our father's 40 Niners team. They're not that good. But ten and four crossed the country.

 

00;26;17;01 - 00;26;28;14

Ron Zappolo

And Ricky Pearson may not play. They're going to have to depend on McCaffrey. They have to depend on George Kittle. And I'll be honest, I don't really trust Brock Purdy.

 

00;26;28;17 - 00;26;30;10

Woody Paige

Been playing well since he came back a couple.

 

00;26;30;10 - 00;26;33;21

Ron Zappolo

Of weeks ago. I saw him throw three interceptions in the first quarter.

 

00;26;33;21 - 00;26;36;15

Tom Green

Oh, you're just talking about football. I mean, how about life you don't trust him?

 

00;26;36;16 - 00;26;41;21

Ron Zappolo

I don't know him in life. I mean, I don't know I don't trust that. Yes, maybe I do trust him.

 

00;26;41;23 - 00;26;44;29

Woody Paige

Oh, so you wouldn't leave your wallet away for.

 

00;26;45;01 - 00;26;49;05

Ron Zappolo

Probably shady Brock Purdy? No way. Yeah.

 

00;26;49;07 - 00;26;56;07

Tom Green

So you're going to take those 40 Niners? You're going to take the Colts? Yeah, I, I think I'm going to have to take the Colts as well. I think that's a tough.

 

00;26;56;07 - 00;26;57;00

Ron Zappolo

Oh.

 

00;26;57;03 - 00;26;58;24

Tom Green

Well, don't yell at me.

 

00;26;58;27 - 00;27;02;01

Ron Zappolo

I don't remember you wants the Colts. It just it's got a right to his own.

 

00;27;02;01 - 00;27;07;07

Woody Paige

It just bothers me when you guys get things wrong. That bring down the entire teams.

 

00;27;07;07 - 00;27;12;04

Tom Green

What's the what's the best case scenario would be Ron getting one football prediction right.

 

00;27;12;05 - 00;27;17;24

Ron Zappolo

Oh my God, you guys are piling on you. I'm going to walk off. Hey, gang. I may be here now.

 

00;27;17;24 - 00;27;21;07

Tom Green

Hey I didn't I didn't write that. Who wrote that? Natasha wrote.

 

00;27;21;07 - 00;27;23;15

Natasha

That. I don't come up with them. I just write them.

 

00;27;23;15 - 00;27;28;18

Tom Green

But you did write it. You didn't complain. You didn't say, hey, Ron, I don't believe this. You just said.

 

00;27;28;18 - 00;27;29;24

Woody Paige

Hey, didn't even do my hair.

 

00;27;29;25 - 00;27;32;29

Natasha

Is this. It's the one is the Broncos. I'm glad.

 

00;27;33;02 - 00;27;51;12

Ron Zappolo

Doug Moore once famously said, when we were interviewing Hubie Brown. I'll never forget it on The Doug Moe Show. And Doug looked at him and said, Hubie, you don't mind if I call you jerk, do you? And he he said, no, Doug, I've been called a jerk by much better people than you. That's how I feel about you two guys.

 

00;27;51;12 - 00;27;51;19

Ron Zappolo

Oh, that's.

 

00;27;51;19 - 00;28;01;21

Tom Green

Nice, that's sweet, that's sweet. That is the board. So obviously a great opportunity for people out there to to take our advice or to do what most people can.

 

00;28;01;21 - 00;28;02;12

Woody Paige

I take a moment?

 

00;28;02;13 - 00;28;03;08

Ron Zappolo

Yes.

 

00;28;03;10 - 00;28;24;07

Woody Paige

A lot of podcast, a lot of TV shows are taking off with the holidays. We will be here next week, next week, and we will be here the week following. And we've got a surprise coming up. And you're going to love it because you have not seen it in a in a podcast because you can't see your podcast.

 

00;28;24;12 - 00;28;29;26

Woody Paige

We are going to do something, in a podcast that hasn't been done that I know of.

 

00;28;29;28 - 00;28;34;18

Ron Zappolo

I think what you should speak for himself, cuz you and I are 5050 for next week.

 

00;28;34;21 - 00;28;41;29

Tom Green

But when you say we're going to be here next week, it almost sounded like you were threatening the viewer listener like you know.

 

00;28;42;02 - 00;28;43;16

Woody Paige

No, I was threatening the two of.

 

00;28;43;16 - 00;28;44;13

Ron Zappolo

You.

 

00;28;44;15 - 00;28;51;27

Tom Green

So yeah, we do have a unique, a unique show planned for for next week. This is next week's show, right? Or is this for. Well, I don't know. Yeah.

 

00;28;51;27 - 00;29;08;13

Ron Zappolo

So whenever it is, like there'll be a game played and I will tell you right now you want a sure bet? I'll give you one. I will lose that game take I will be the first man out runs. I'll be out of there and then I will be the commissioner. I will kind of oversee. I will oversee it between the two of you.

 

00;29;08;13 - 00;29;10;03

Woody Paige

Okay. That's. Well.

 

00;29;10;05 - 00;29;12;19

Tom Green

My. You have to remember my competitive fire.

 

00;29;12;19 - 00;29;18;13

Ron Zappolo

Burn burns, right? I know there's certain things that you just want to win and you can't be stopped.

 

00;29;18;14 - 00;29;23;11

Woody Paige

So that's that's one game that we can predict.

 

00;29;23;14 - 00;29;24;24

Ron Zappolo

How it's going to go. Losers.

 

00;29;24;27 - 00;29;29;27

Tom Green

Well, we can also fix it. We can be like a major league reliever. We can just. Right. Yeah.

 

00;29;30;00 - 00;29;30;29

Woody Paige

We can just fix it.

 

00;29;31;06 - 00;29;39;01

Ron Zappolo

It's been a major league all. Well what what the Rockies doing I haven't been following it that they brought in like. Oh shit.

 

00;29;39;04 - 00;29;43;03

Woody Paige

Did you see this? Here's what they've done. They brought in eight pitchers.

 

00;29;43;05 - 00;29;44;21

Tom Green

Did you see the guy they got no one.

 

00;29;44;21 - 00;29;46;02

Woody Paige

Of them you've ever heard.

 

00;29;46;02 - 00;29;53;00

Tom Green

Of. But no. The rule five draft from the Tigers. You see they get he's six foot nine, 300 pounds. Well, there's.

 

00;29;53;03 - 00;29;59;03

Ron Zappolo

There's something about being big because when you release that ball you're only about 55ft away from.

 

00;29;59;03 - 00;29;59;18

Tom Green

Up top.

 

00;29;59;20 - 00;30;00;05

Ron Zappolo

Yeah.

 

00;30;00;09 - 00;30;03;29

Tom Green

You know, it's interesting that a guy named Pettitte would not be petite.

 

00;30;04;02 - 00;30;05;23

Ron Zappolo

Or he wouldn't be a basketball player.

 

00;30;05;23 - 00;30;11;09

Woody Paige

When do you think they would sign one flashy hell no player?

 

00;30;11;09 - 00;30;11;26

Tom Green

Well, they might.

 

00;30;11;26 - 00;30;23;05

Woody Paige

You know, but I mean, if they're coming in and another new group, I would say let's let's do one. Yeah. We're in the middle of those three seasons going on where. But nobody's paying any attention.

 

00;30;23;05 - 00;30;26;10

Ron Zappolo

In year two. They have to do nothing until you're convinced they're not going to do.

 

00;30;26;13 - 00;30;39;03

Tom Green

The last time they did that was Chris Brian. And the question wasn't as much, what are they doing? It's what is Chris Bryant doing? And it's the same here. Like if you're a player, are you going to go, I want to Denver. That's where I want.

 

00;30;39;03 - 00;30;41;16

Ron Zappolo

To be since the turn of the century.

 

00;30;41;18 - 00;30;46;08

Woody Paige

How many for you know they're still playing Arenado.

 

00;30;46;10 - 00;30;47;05

Tom Green

Yeah.

 

00;30;47;07 - 00;31;11;16

Ron Zappolo

And the Cardinals are doing everything within their power to dump Aaron Noddle. They are offering him to every team saying please we'll pay more. Would you bring him back? If it was me, of course. Who gives a shit about this team? Aaron Otto would at least indeed engender some good feeling about him. I would definitely.

 

00;31;11;20 - 00;31;22;22

Tom Green

There's one. There's only one deal I've heard that they might be doing. They're trying to work a deal with Pittsburgh. They want to get Bobby Bonilla as contract from the Mets. They want to pay him $1 million every.

 

00;31;22;24 - 00;31;27;11

Ron Zappolo

They're not. They're not offering like Tovar for Paul schemes and saying, hey, it's a good idea.

 

00;31;27;11 - 00;31;29;17

Tom Green

Schemes and Skubal would be a great one to play.

 

00;31;29;20 - 00;31;30;15

Ron Zappolo

Wouldn't be they get.

 

00;31;30;18 - 00;31;35;27

Woody Paige

What are the top three players on the Rockies in your mind right now? I mean, on the Rockies.

 

00;31;35;28 - 00;31;38;29

Tom Green

You'd have to say Tovar and Toil and Goodman.

 

00;31;39;01 - 00;31;40;27

Woody Paige

Yeah. And they're trying to get rid of Dole.

 

00;31;41;00 - 00;31;42;20

Tom Green

Yeah. Well, I mean, they.

 

00;31;42;20 - 00;31;45;15

Woody Paige

They even announced will consider.

 

00;31;45;15 - 00;31;49;00

Ron Zappolo

They'll have to you know what the who's the assistant GM?

 

00;31;49;02 - 00;31;50;02

Tom Green

Well, they just.

 

00;31;50;05 - 00;31;51;11

Ron Zappolo

Hired.

 

00;31;51;14 - 00;31;52;08

Tom Green

Ian Levine.

 

00;31;52;08 - 00;31;53;27

Ron Zappolo

No, no, no. Is it, Burns?

 

00;31;54;04 - 00;31;55;18

Tom Green

Well, Josh Burns is the GM.

 

00;31;55;18 - 00;32;13;14

Ron Zappolo

Yeah, but. Well, yeah, but the Depodesta runs the show. He's number one. I like, him, Josh Burns. Yes. He's got a pretty good track record. He's been around. If they let him do his jobs here. No, I remember him when I was in Boston.

 

00;32;13;14 - 00;32;15;10

Woody Paige

He was the,

 

00;32;15;12 - 00;32;16;09

Ron Zappolo

I don't know how we got on.

 

00;32;16;13 - 00;32;23;16

Woody Paige

The on the PR. He was. He was in. And I remember saying, yeah, give me some more peanuts.

 

00;32;23;18 - 00;32;25;08

Ron Zappolo

Now, on that note.

 

00;32;25;11 - 00;32;27;25

Tom Green

Well, that's, you know, he's, he's come a lumbering.

 

00;32;27;25 - 00;32;30;02

Ron Zappolo

Er Renato back. Why not.

 

00;32;30;02 - 00;32;32;03

Tom Green

They're already paying him. Why not.

 

00;32;32;06 - 00;32;33;20

Woody Paige

They're paying him $5 million a year.

 

00;32;33;21 - 00;32;38;29

Ron Zappolo

They're just Chaim Bloom is offering him to anyone out there that wants him.

 

00;32;38;29 - 00;32;44;10

Woody Paige

That's what I'm saying. But maybe the Cardinals would pay $50 million.

 

00;32;44;10 - 00;32;45;00

Tom Green

We've learned if.

 

00;32;45;02 - 00;32;46;01

Ron Zappolo

You. If you're.

 

00;32;46;01 - 00;32;48;18

Tom Green

Going to trade Aaron out or you got to give the other team $50.

 

00;32;48;18 - 00;32;55;01

Ron Zappolo

Million, has he is he deteriorated that much? He has, hasn't he?

 

00;32;55;01 - 00;32;55;20

Tom Green

I think so.

 

00;32;55;20 - 00;32;56;17

Ron Zappolo

That's kind of sad because.

 

00;32;56;17 - 00;32;57;22

Tom Green

It looks like it.

 

00;32;57;24 - 00;33;04;26

Woody Paige

Yeah. He may have actually played himself out of the Hall of Fame because we all say yeah. Oh boy. This adult.

 

00;33;05;01 - 00;33;07;14

Ron Zappolo

Yeah. So you may have, but don't you think.

 

00;33;07;15 - 00;33;08;02

Tom Green

This time.

 

00;33;08;02 - 00;33;15;02

Ron Zappolo

And the old guys know this, I'd say he was the greatest defensive third baseman since Brooks Robinson.

 

00;33;15;09 - 00;33;17;22

Tom Green

Yeah, there are only a few you'd that you'd put in.

 

00;33;17;22 - 00;33;23;20

Ron Zappolo

That was the. I used to tell my kids there was nobody better. Maybe Brooks in his did in his day. But Earnhardt always.

 

00;33;23;28 - 00;33;30;24

Woody Paige

Final thought for me. I think rivers may be playing himself, the whole thing, because I think that it's kind of fresh and some.

 

00;33;30;24 - 00;33;33;09

Tom Green

Of us are betting on Philip Rivers.

 

00;33;33;09 - 00;33;34;13

Ron Zappolo

Yes, a couple of us.

 

00;33;34;16 - 00;33;35;25

Tom Green

So we'll we'll see.

 

00;33;35;27 - 00;33;38;03

Ron Zappolo

We're taking a picture from that.

 

00;33;38;06 - 00;33;42;01

Woody Paige

Check back with me. Well, no, I won't be around in five years.

 

00;33;42;03 - 00;33;43;26

Tom Green

All right. That is going to do that for us.

 

00;33;43;26 - 00;33;46;04

Ron Zappolo

On that holiday. Cheerful note.

 

00;33;46;07 - 00;33;59;06

Tom Green

We do want to remind you, you can always reach out to us here at at Gorilla Sportsnet. Happy holidays everybody. Good luck with all the football games and the baseball chatter.

 

00;33;59;08 - 00;34;01;13

Tom Green