Tom, Ron, and Woody dive into the Army–Navy showdown, shifting College Football Playoff odds, and a full slate of NFL Week 14 lines — including why the Broncos are home underdogs despite an 11–2 record and 10 straight wins. The guys break down Ravens–Bengals, Bills–Patriots, Browns–Bears, Chargers–Chiefs, Lions–Rams, Colts–Seahawks, Dolphins–Steelers, and the value plays on the board in Super Bowl and MVP futures. It’s the Weekend Betting Edition… just don’t actually take their advice.
This week’s Weekend Betting Edition opens with the Army–Navy matchup and a look at how the oddsmakers view the final stretch of the college football season, including major movement in the national championship market. The crew then turns to the NFL, running through a full slate of games with thoughts on Ravens–Bengals, Bills–Patriots, Browns–Bears, Chargers–Chiefs, Lions–Rams, Colts–Seahawks, Dolphins–Steelers, and of course Broncos–Packers, where Denver enters as a surprising home underdog despite a ten-game win streak. The conversation also covers updated Super Bowl odds, MVP contenders, and why some teams remain public favorites regardless of performance. As always, the guys offer sharp insight, big laughs, and plenty of disclaimers about not listening to a single pick they make.
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Ron Zappolo
Well, you know, if you if you have anything left, which, if you've listened to us for the last month, you've lost house and home, we're back with more incredibly important advice for you to digest and make sure that you go the other way.
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Tom Green
Make up your own mind. Our insight can get expensive.
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Ron Zappolo
It can.
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Tom Green
So, what do we get down to the college football season where there's a game? There are a couple games, but Army, Navy, the game. It's always a big one. Navy, a six point favorite. Of course, there are nine and two. Team this year. It's hard because we don't tend to watch these teams. Both teams beat Air Force, though, by a field goal, so they were pretty evenly matched when they took on the Falcons.
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Woody Paige
Taking Navy, which it's not some foreign push to take Navy because they've been really good for the last couple of years. But I must about the Army Navy game tell you the Denver Post story. That's a history of that. When the Air Force Academy came to Colorado in the late 50s and played in the Air Force was actually in Denver, and the guy who covered Air Force Academy and I won't mention his name, is sent to the Army Navy game and he calls in.
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Woody Paige
That's when you would dictate stories or you would, send them by passenger pigeon.
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Tom Green
Right? Just read it out over the phone.
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Woody Paige
And he called back a half hour after the game and he said, you know, this was my first Army-Navy game, and I had some problems. They said, well, what do you mean? He said, I'd like to change something in my story. And they said, sure. What do you want to change, Ralph? Well, he said, change all my army's to Navy.
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Speaker 3
Well, my.
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Woody Paige
Navy.
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Speaker 3
Starved.
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Woody Paige
He confused the two teams.
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Ron Zappolo
He's good.
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Woody Paige
That's a true story. Except his son, works here. Still with me. One of my close friends. And he denies that that ever happened. But that's a famous story. Other than it doesn't.
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Tom Green
Have to be true. It's just a good story.
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Woody Paige
It's good. It's better than talking about the Army. Navy?
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah, yeah, I was going to say I'll take Navy.
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Woody Paige
There's an outdoors editor in, in Saint Paul. Right. And they had a, they had a Saint Paul had their version of the Iditarod during the Saint Paul Winter Carnival. Right. A dog sled race. And so they sent the outdoors editor to the Iditarod in Alaska. And we did. When I was young, we had to dictate our stories.
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Woody Paige
You guys were the media, TV and radio guys. But I, I sent in a story about, an Ole Miss player, and they misspelled his name in the whole story.
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Speaker 3
Right?
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Woody Paige
And I said what you did, but but this, outdoors editors, in this case, drunk outdoors editor, which is redundant. And so he calls into for his first story of the Iditarod and kid is going to take the dictation, and he said, okay, go ahead. He says, by Rod Smith, Saint Paul Pioneer Press outdoors editor de died Boise, Idaho.
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Woody Paige
Dash dash Tomar, the Iditarod. It's a kid by heart, you write, he said. I thought you were in Alaska. And he said, good catch, kid.
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Speaker 3
Thanks for the help.
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Woody Paige
Sorry, that's my RV, Navy.
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Tom Green
I'm going to I'm going to take Army. And the point and the reason being Army, had three Heisman Trophy winners and Navy's only had two. So, I think a.
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Woody Paige
Give me one for.
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Ron Zappolo
Me. I can give you two from Navy, I think.
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Tom Green
Well, it was Blanchard and Davis and Pete Dawkins.
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Ron Zappolo
Joe one from Navy, it's Joe Baleno and Ron Paul.
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Tom Green
I got back the last 1 in 63.
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Woody Paige
That's good, that's good.
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Tom Green
So that's why I'm going with Army.
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Ron Zappolo
This is why we're old. We remember this.
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Woody Paige
Mr.. Inside and Mr.. Outside. Yeah.
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Tom Green
Yeah. So let's let's now look at the big picture because we have.
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Woody Paige
All here for we all.
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Ron Zappolo
Don't we we fill in a lot of gaps.
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Tom Green
You might learn something like how to get rid of your money. Yeah. So let's take a look at how this is shaping up now because, Notre Dame, does not have very good odds to win the national championship.
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Ron Zappolo
Well, you know, they did up until Sunday morning at 11:00.
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Tom Green
Our odds were.
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Ron Zappolo
Decent. They were the fourth favorite to win the national championship.
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Tom Green
Well, now it's behind them. Ohio State and Indiana, one and two. They are, the betting favorite at this point. Followed by Georgia, Oregon, though jumping over Texas Tech, not one of the top four seeds.
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Ron Zappolo
I'll start just what's Ohio State plus 220.
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Tom Green
I think it's two 5250.
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Ron Zappolo
Whatever it is, I can't see 20.
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Tom Green
You're right.
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Ron Zappolo
220 yeah, take your 220 bucks. Bet it on Ohio State. You get your hundred bucks back, you'll be good or 220 but 100 to win. 220 plus 220.
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Tom Green
You know Tulane at plus 75,000 appears to be an enticing wager.
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Ron Zappolo
You think the odds are in that old Miss Tulane game? I think they played once already.
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Tom Green
Yeah. And it didn't go well.
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Ron Zappolo
It didn't really go well for Tulane. But in their brilliance, they've decided a rematch would be really good.
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Speaker 3
Well, if like.
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Tom Green
If.
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Woody Paige
You're looking for a good money bet. Yeah. And we talked about betting here but I'm going to go back to middle of the season when I told you guys the best team that nobody was really paying attention to was Texas A&M, right. Kind of fell off the board right at the end of the season. But if you're looking for a good spot here to bet $5 with your neighbor.
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Ron Zappolo
7 to 1 and 17 to 1. Yeah, I still like the 100 to win to 20 with Ohio State.
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Tom Green
I it's going to be hard for me to picture the only team. I think that can really line up. But I know Indiana lined up with them and couldn't beat them this week. But Georgia, if they play as they did against Alabama, they.
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Ron Zappolo
Line up.
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Tom Green
With them. They can line up, play anyone.
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Ron Zappolo
And take nothing away from Indiana. The quarterback, the whole story, the coach. It's great. They cut Ohio State at the perfect time. There's no way they could have gotten up to play that game. And that game was meaningless.
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Tom Green
More probably a bit to it, even more to Indiana.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah, but come on, if they play again, it it won't be the same.
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Woody Paige
Here's the side story to that. I'm a Heisman voter. We talked about that. So I kept getting text messages. You got to because it started on Saturday. Right?
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Ron Zappolo
Right.
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Woody Paige
And it Monday at 5 p.m. was the turn out. So I'm just my time, you know, the top three okay. And top three I can't reveal them until after show. Yeah. But I would just say that. So I finally do it like last night. No. Yeah, I did yesterday. And they announced the four players that are going to New York.
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Woody Paige
And what are the three?
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Not invited. But, as far.
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Woody Paige
As I'm just going to say that in a week or so, I'll tell you who that my number, third, third guy is, I think my first guy is going to win, but, the third guy, what's the best player of the year as far as I'm concerned? And he doesn't play what would be considered, the prime position, right, for Heisman Trophy winners.
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Woody Paige
Although, Travis, I know last year and he.
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Speaker 3
Unique.
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Woody Paige
Part of unique defensive player. But I.
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Tom Green
Think if somebody if you shook somebody awake from five years ago and told him that the top two candidates to win the Heisman are from Indiana and.
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Ron Zappolo
Vanderbilt, and you, would you have a hard time showing.
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Speaker 3
That really.
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Tom Green
Really you know, apparently you don't follow college football like I do because that never happened.
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Ron Zappolo
Woke up those guys. How high will those two quarterbacks be?
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Tom Green
Draft Mendoza is projected number one by many. And it all still depends on who's drafting of course two. But most people are projecting Mendoza as the number one pick because also you not only get into players, but then the over drafting of quarterbacks. You know they just as you said.
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Ron Zappolo
And do you think they do that. That's for sure. Do you think Mendoza is as good as the group from two years ago?
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Tom Green
Hard to say. I wouldn't think so no I.
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Ron Zappolo
Don't I put him in that.
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Tom Green
But Pavia and Mendoza also look like they could be guys you could put into your locker room, play effective quarterback and help to change the culture. Now, that's an extent that may or may not be what NFL teams are interested in.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah, I think I like them, but I think they look more like projects right then Caleb Williams did, or Jayden Daniels or any of those guys.
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Tom Green
Speaking of the NFL.
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Woody Paige
Is a guy like on my team.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Woody Paige
I don't know that it's almost Tebow ish, right?
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Tom Green
A little bit. He's a better he's but he can actually throw a football.
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Woody Paige
Yeah. Yes.
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Ron Zappolo
But did you listen to Fernando after the game.
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Tom Green
He's a funny kid. Whoa. He is a funny kid.
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Speaker 3
Oh yeah.
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Woody Paige
That was one of the great victory speeches of all time. And it went.
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Ron Zappolo
Really,
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Woody Paige
You know. Oh, I don't know, but I want to be, I want to go to church this Sunday.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
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Tom Green
Let's go to Sunday. Let's go to the National Football League, start running down the big board because of the limited slate of college. We go to the Ravens and Bengals. This is, two sloppy, messy, shook up teams. Baltimore on the road, though, a two and a half point pick.
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Ron Zappolo
Joe Burrow is healthy. Lamar Jackson clearly is not. I'm going to take the Bengals and I'm going to take him as a home dog and take the two and a half points.
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Woody Paige
Me too.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, no, I.
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Tom Green
Just I got bad news for you. I'm going to do that also.
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Ron Zappolo
All three of this. And here's the deal. Run to your favorite, betting app.
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Woody Paige
But you would have said two years ago, if we go back two years ago, you'd say, man, end of the season, Ravens of Bengals. Boy, this is a game.
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Speaker 3
Big bad.
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Tom Green
Yeah great quarterback matchup.
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Ron Zappolo
About the NFL that we could be a few weeks out from the playoffs and it's legitimate that, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow are all.
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Tom Green
Out going to be doing sideline commentary. Yeah.
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Ron Zappolo
That's that's you know we'll see. It sets up for Josh Allen I mean if he was ever going to race his way through the playoffs, this would be the year without those other quarterbacks.
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Tom Green
This would be the weekend for him to step up because they go to New England. The Patriots have been rolling. They've already beaten the Bills in Buffalo. Now is that.
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Ron Zappolo
Do it.
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Tom Green
Again in Foxborough. It's going to be the Bills at Patriots. I think you know with or without the number Buffalo is a slight favorite on the road. But this is an important game for both of these teams. If Buffalo really wants to make a statement. And if New England wants to continue to prove itself to a doubting public.
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Woody Paige
At some point the Patriots have to win a game that is so good that we have to actually believe, right?
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
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Woody Paige
This is the what I mean, if they beat the bills here, but think about their season, the schedule, they got a last play schedule and that's not.
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Ron Zappolo
Really a bad one. Signature win and that's the bills.
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Tom Green
Yeah. So who do you like in this in this matchup bill Sunday morning. You like the bills to go into.
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Ron Zappolo
I think I'm going to a slight lean to the bills I.
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Woody Paige
Slight.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah it's good going Jim Armstrong a slight lean to the bills I think the bills at the end of the day need the game more than the pay.
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Tom Green
The bills still think they can win that.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah. And if they win the game.
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Tom Green
Their game they do have a chance. Yeah. So that would be what they'll close in on them. It's just hard to see them and watch him play. Like against Cincinnati. They didn't look like they're ready to go at home.
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Ron Zappolo
Here's the deal. Their defense sucks. Yeah that's the thing. That's going to kill them. Their defense is not very good. And if they come in here and play Denver people were going to talk about Josh Allen. But I'm going to look at their defense and say Denver can do something against them.
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Tom Green
Well, I'm going to I'm going to take Mike Vrabel in this one. I think, number one McDermott had a tough year and variable's had a great year. So I'm going to go with the coaching in this one. And see if the Patriots can get.
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Ron Zappolo
Don't you think he's the coach of the year? I know Ben Johnson has done a great job. But Mike Vrabel took over a four win team.
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Tom Green
Yeah sure. He he's he's one of what Liam Cohen would be another to be up there.
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Woody Paige
And a guy that's here.
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Ron Zappolo
And he's done a great job too.
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Woody Paige
And I I want before his career is over. Josh Allen to win the Super Bowl and get up there on the platform afterward and say, it sucks to be here.
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Speaker 3
Yes. You ready. All right.
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Tom Green
Browns bears Browns and bears. It's not Jim Brown against, Dick Butkus. It's it should do.
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Ron Zappolo
The.
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Tom Green
Shadows and Caleb Williams the bears coming off the loss. And this is the classic sandwich game for them at home. Yeah. Off the Packers. They got the Packers again next week Chicago the though still a seven and a half point pick.
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Ron Zappolo
You know here's a hometown pick I think should do or is playing reasonably well pretty good. And you just made a great point about how this game is sandwiched between the two green Bay games. I don't think the Browns will win, but you're giving me two scores. I'm going to take the seven and a half and take the Browns.
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Woody Paige
I'm going to go with the bears, but I think we're going to do it. Once you're in show and top ten stories in sports, I think sure.
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Speaker 3
Centers in.
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Woody Paige
The top ten because.
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Ron Zappolo
Of.
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Woody Paige
Everything that's going on.
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Tom Green
Yeah, I can see the bears rolling in this game, rolling. And then at the end there's a late penalty flag and then Cleveland kicks a field goal to lose by seven.
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Tom Green
That seems to be the new move in the in the.
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Woody Paige
Door has it. He has a number different the limits. But his offensive line is so bad.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Woody Paige
That, he he's accustomed to it because he had such a bad offensive line in Denver, but.
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Ron Zappolo
Looks like he injury.
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Woody Paige
To beat the bear, the bears, the bears.
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Tom Green
Banking anything. And that includes money on Jerry.
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Ron Zappolo
Jury duty.
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Tom Green
I'm out.
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Ron Zappolo
So, yeah, it's a different Jerry.
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Tom Green
Judy, I think the bears, with their eyes closed, go about the business and cover that. So I'm.
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Ron Zappolo
The only guy on should or go should do.
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Tom Green
Her Chargers and Chiefs. Now the Chargers did the did the Chiefs go into Kansas City. This is an interesting matchup for them because we watched Justin Herbert get pummeled around week in and week out. Yep. What are the Chiefs have left I mean both both on the field and and in their you know their wherewithal because it seems like they know their fate at this point.
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Tom Green
It looked like it the other night against Houston.
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Ron Zappolo
Well the good news for them the Chargers aren't the Houston Texans. Yeah the Chargers are going to come in off a Monday night game where it went overtime and their quarterback is really beat up. I'll say I'm going to say one last time, I'm not going to predict anything. I'm just going to take the Chiefs to win this game and cover the four and a half.
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Ron Zappolo
They win by 6 or 7. Yeah.
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Woody Paige
And you've got the coach of the Chiefs actually going on TV after a game and admitting he made a mistake. What you did. But that's refreshing. It is because we we live in a city where the coach never admits they made a mistake. But the Chiefs win this going away. The Chargers
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Ron Zappolo
Are not there.
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Woody Paige
I think that squeezed that loss. Squeeze them last night I think it just squeeze them that that's that was a game they had to have.
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Ron Zappolo
Well they got to win the division.
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Woody Paige
The Broncos are now winning the division. The only chance they really had was the tide that I felt like they could still be. In fact, they can be in the playoffs, but they're not going to win a Division I.
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Tom Green
The Chargers are going in the right direction. Chiefs are going in the wrong direction. I'll take the four and a half points and let's see what happens with it.
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Ron Zappolo
That one can go either way.
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Tom Green
Yeah not not.
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Ron Zappolo
Depends which chief.
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Tom Green
Teams swagger pick. So the Lions got right taking on the the Cowboys on Thursday night. But the Rams got really right. And they continue to look like they might be the premier team in the NFC. So their home five and a half point pick over the Lions.
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Ron Zappolo
Kind of I don't know. I was so convinced the Cowboys were going to go into Detroit and beat the Lions on Thanksgiving. The Wolves that they played Thanksgiving.
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Tom Green
Yeah it was the week after Thanksgiving but a Thursday night.
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Ron Zappolo
And they just played so poorly in the Lions. Put it in Jared Goff's hands Jared Goff is going against the team that dumped him. Yeah I think I'm going to take the Lions in the points.
00;17;16;15 - 00;17;19;05
Woody Paige
I think he's over that. Don't you know I.
00;17;19;05 - 00;17;21;01
Speaker 3
Don't think you ever get over it.
00;17;21;03 - 00;17;33;10
Ron Zappolo
Yeah I do. Have you ever gotten over a place that you even if you left of your own accord? But if you didn't, didn't you want that place to want you more?
00;17;33;12 - 00;17;34;08
Speaker 3
No.
00;17;34;11 - 00;17;37;23
Ron Zappolo
I did, I did.
00;17;37;26 - 00;17;40;28
Woody Paige
But I've never been fired, so I don't know.
00;17;41;00 - 00;17;42;21
Tom Green
Well, there's still time to.
00;17;42;21 - 00;17;50;09
Ron Zappolo
Hang in there. You'll be every place like I didn't get fired, but I always kind of look back now and think. Couldn't you have tried to hold?
00;17;50;10 - 00;17;51;22
Speaker 3
Yeah. And keep me.
00;17;51;25 - 00;17;53;14
Woody Paige
Hanging on to bitterness is.
00;17;53;14 - 00;17;56;24
Ron Zappolo
Really. Well, I'm sorry to go through life. It's a human trait.
00;17;56;25 - 00;17;58;05
Tom Green
Bitterness is something we do.
00;17;58;05 - 00;17;59;00
Ron Zappolo
Well, yeah.
00;17;59;00 - 00;18;02;18
Woody Paige
By the way, I did get fired by all four TV station.
00;18;02;21 - 00;18;03;19
Speaker 3
No, you didn't.
00;18;03;21 - 00;18;09;05
Woody Paige
Denver. Yeah, I got fired by all four. I got fired by 16 radio stations, I think. I mean.
00;18;09;05 - 00;18;18;14
Ron Zappolo
Jared Goff didn't get fired, but he got after he got him to the Super Bowl. Yeah. And then Sean McVay said thanks a lot. Don't let the door. The Lions on the way out every year.
00;18;18;14 - 00;18;36;26
Tom Green
The Lions they play so hard and so well for Dan Campbell. But the level at which they play seems to cost them players through the course. They seem to wither away. Their roster gets thin. I think the Rams are playing great. They're at home. I think Stafford's better than Goff right now. He is. And I'll take the Rams.
00;18;36;26 - 00;18;40;12
Tom Green
I'll lay those five and a half and see if they can run it to 11 and three.
00;18;40;14 - 00;18;51;24
Woody Paige
I am giving you the pick of the year. Oh the Lions you said are coming. They're they're playing better. They're playing more like we believed they would be at the beginning of the season.
00;18;51;24 - 00;18;52;18
Tom Green
Like realign.
00;18;52;18 - 00;19;02;29
Woody Paige
I think Dan Campbell forget about the quarterbacks but being bitter or whatever it is, I think Campbell, once he took over calling the offense that looks like.
00;19;02;29 - 00;19;03;10
Ron Zappolo
It looks.
00;19;03;10 - 00;19;09;23
Woody Paige
Bad, uninspired team. I'm going to take the Lions not only stay within the four and a half, they're going to win this game.
00;19;09;23 - 00;19;19;25
Ron Zappolo
So what. He's taking the Lions on the moneyline I like that. All right that'll be that'll pay good. And I think we want a guy like Dan Campbell in the playoffs so that he can go for it on fourth down. Man in.
00;19;19;25 - 00;19;22;27
Woody Paige
Time. He's even good in those he does commercials.
00;19;22;27 - 00;19;23;21
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, he is good.
00;19;23;21 - 00;19;25;01
Woody Paige
Like, I hope or somebody.
00;19;25;04 - 00;19;25;18
Tom Green
I love.
00;19;25;18 - 00;19;26;24
Ron Zappolo
Feeling he'd be fun to.
00;19;26;24 - 00;19;31;15
Tom Green
Cover. And I love the way they run the football team. Jamir Gibbs. Jamir Montgomery.
00;19;31;19 - 00;19;31;29
Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
00;19;32;00 - 00;19;32;24
Tom Green
Fantastic.
00;19;32;24 - 00;19;33;12
Ron Zappolo
And tell you.
00;19;33;12 - 00;19;37;26
Woody Paige
When their wide receivers. When they're healthy. Yeah. Unhealthy.
00;19;37;28 - 00;19;39;27
Ron Zappolo
I'm on Saint Brown there. Yeah.
00;19;39;27 - 00;19;41;25
Woody Paige
Sorry. Brown wasn't even supposed to be in there. And he.
00;19;41;25 - 00;19;42;26
Ron Zappolo
Still got hit it out.
00;19;42;26 - 00;19;52;26
Tom Green
And had a great game. Yeah. Hey, here's an interesting one. Because the quarterback match up the Colts playing someone at quarterback Sam Darnold.
00;19;52;27 - 00;19;55;27
Ron Zappolo
If they can get the remains of Johnny Unitas why.
00;19;56;00 - 00;19;56;15
Speaker 3
Why a.
00;19;56;15 - 00;19;57;16
Tom Green
Tittle has been lost.
00;19;57;16 - 00;20;02;13
Ron Zappolo
Why tittle Fran Tarkenton is 84 but he's a young 84.
00;20;02;13 - 00;20;10;02
Tom Green
So this is one of those lines though. There are a host of games this week with large lines or half a dozen games with more than a touchdown spread.
00;20;10;05 - 00;20;24;22
Ron Zappolo
Here's what I would do. I would take the Seahawks and I would tease them with somebody like Jacksonville. I wouldn't play 13.5, right? I'd put them in a tease where you can take two teams, get that points down six and last seven and a half.
00;20;24;22 - 00;20;29;29
Tom Green
So if you're Seattle you know one thing. It's Jonathan Taylor time. That's all you're going to do. Oh you got Jonathan Taylor.
00;20;29;29 - 00;20;32;19
Ron Zappolo
So they put it in the box and say Jonathan yeah.
00;20;32;19 - 00;20;36;10
Tom Green
And whoever your quarterback is it's Brett Rippon. Or if it's rivers or so.
00;20;36;11 - 00;20;41;15
Woody Paige
But we know this even though the Seahawks are going to make.
00;20;41;18 - 00;20;46;24
Woody Paige
Not win the spread. They are going to kick a field goal late in the.
00;20;46;24 - 00;20;49;08
Speaker 3
Game to get with it.
00;20;49;11 - 00;20;50;09
Tom Green
Is this the NFL.
00;20;50;11 - 00;20;51;18
Speaker 3
Designated can't.
00;20;51;18 - 00;20;56;24
Ron Zappolo
The Seahawks sign this is can't they sign a quarterback of somebody practice.
00;20;56;24 - 00;20;57;16
Speaker 3
Rosters.
00;20;57;18 - 00;21;01;15
Ron Zappolo
Okay go sign like who's the guy Tommy DeVito.
00;21;01;16 - 00;21;04;16
Speaker 3
Yeah. Go get somebody. They may they may I.
00;21;04;16 - 00;21;06;05
Tom Green
Mean, there's plenty of time.
00;21;06;07 - 00;21;12;18
Woody Paige
Yeah, I think that's one of the worst things that could be happening for a player. Now that he's in those commercials where you are.
00;21;12;19 - 00;21;13;17
Tom Green
The back end of Teddy.
00;21;13;17 - 00;21;14;02
Ron Zappolo
Bridgewater.
00;21;14;09 - 00;21;16;02
Woody Paige
You come in and order from the.
00;21;16;02 - 00;21;16;23
Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
00;21;16;25 - 00;21;17;16
Woody Paige
Burger King.
00;21;17;16 - 00;21;17;29
Speaker 3
Or whatever.
00;21;18;02 - 00;21;18;29
Tom Green
So one thing not to.
00;21;18;29 - 00;21;21;03
Woody Paige
Be vetoes is one of those. Yeah.
00;21;21;06 - 00;21;25;00
Tom Green
One thing not to be lost in this matchup is how good the Seahawks are, especially at home.
00;21;25;00 - 00;21;25;21
Ron Zappolo
Really good.
00;21;25;21 - 00;21;28;02
Tom Green
They are a premier team in the NFC.
00;21;28;02 - 00;21;48;14
Ron Zappolo
They're really good. But they're this year's version. And I hate to do this. They're this year's version of last year's Vikings in that nobody really deep down trusts Sam Darnold in a big game. Well this one this is big fun. This game is no problem. Last week against Atlanta was no problem. But they're going to get in the playoffs.
00;21;48;17 - 00;21;52;17
Ron Zappolo
And Sam's going to have to reverse the trend there.
00;21;52;20 - 00;22;13;27
Tom Green
All right. The Broncos 11 and two at home unbeaten on a ten game winning streak. Underdogs to the green Bay Packers at Empower Field on Sunday afternoon a very interesting line. You know we talk about handicappers these are what the Vegas wiseguys say. But it's also they're handicapping the public. They know where the money's going to go.
00;22;13;27 - 00;22;18;02
Tom Green
And they say we're going to make you pay a premium if you want to bet on the Packers.
00;22;18;04 - 00;22;20;25
Ron Zappolo
So I'll bet on the Broncos. I don't want to pay a premium.
00;22;21;01 - 00;22;22;09
Tom Green
Because Rod Smith's going to yell.
00;22;22;09 - 00;22;40;19
Ron Zappolo
At you. He's going to yell at me. I don't get yelled at anymore. I spent a long years getting yelled that I don't. I want to be loved now. So I'm going to take Denver and I'm going to take them. Listen, I don't think when Denver is home, I've learned my lesson. I'm not going to bet on them at home as a home underdog.
00;22;40;25 - 00;22;48;11
Ron Zappolo
Now, green Bay might be better, I don't know, but I'm not sold on Jordan Love. I'm not sold on Matt LaFleur if you can.
00;22;48;12 - 00;22;51;05
Tom Green
B+ Jacobs was a problem for them with the Raiders.
00;22;51;05 - 00;22;58;13
Ron Zappolo
Josh Jacobs could win the game for him. Yeah, but I think if you can block Micah Parsons, you can win the game.
00;22;58;14 - 00;23;00;10
Tom Green
This would be Garrett Bowles all protesting.
00;23;00;10 - 00;23;12;00
Ron Zappolo
Well I think they're going to need a little help there. Yeah I think you tight end or you're running back chip them. You don't let them just go one on one. But I think Denver has found a way all year to win at home. I'm not going.
00;23;12;00 - 00;23;13;14
Tom Green
To you like the two and a half. Yeah.
00;23;13;17 - 00;23;15;05
Ron Zappolo
And I'm getting points.
00;23;15;07 - 00;23;16;13
Woody Paige
Yeah.
00;23;16;15 - 00;23;23;16
Woody Paige
I like the Broncos. And I'll just mention one reason you didn't. It's whether it's going to be good.
00;23;23;23 - 00;23;24;24
Tom Green
Yeah, yeah. Nice day.
00;23;24;26 - 00;23;41;13
Woody Paige
So it's not you know it's not a Packers game like oh we're playing in the same whether we play at home win all the time. I think 55 degrees. I like the Broncos. That has nothing to do with chipping.
00;23;41;16 - 00;23;42;21
Ron Zappolo
Micah Parsons.
00;23;42;23 - 00;23;47;02
Woody Paige
Or that the I think the Broncos are better than the Packers.
00;23;47;02 - 00;23;51;19
Ron Zappolo
I do too, but I think Micah Parsons is one of the 2 or 3 best defensive players.
00;23;51;19 - 00;23;52;22
Tom Green
And yeah, he can record game.
00;23;52;22 - 00;23;56;03
Ron Zappolo
He can record game. So you got to be you have to be careful.
00;23;56;03 - 00;24;00;15
Woody Paige
You mean like Max Crosby does? That one thing?
00;24;00;15 - 00;24;09;26
Ron Zappolo
What he's different than Max Crosby. Max Crosby is a down lineman. Micah Parsons play standing up. And he's more difficult to block than Max Crosby.
00;24;09;26 - 00;24;16;18
Tom Green
This is also going to be likely one of the best defenses the Packers will see this year. Yep. And it'll be interesting to see what Jordan love.
00;24;16;20 - 00;24;19;22
Ron Zappolo
Just exactly. Do you trust Jordan love?
00;24;19;24 - 00;24;24;14
Tom Green
I think they're going to want Josh Jacobs to be the main I do. And he was pummeling the bears. What is.
00;24;24;14 - 00;24;25;09
Ron Zappolo
Love look good.
00;24;25;10 - 00;24;27;20
Woody Paige
Last last time he was here I.
00;24;27;22 - 00;24;28;17
Ron Zappolo
Can't remember.
00;24;28;19 - 00;24;28;27
Woody Paige
The last.
00;24;28;27 - 00;24;29;20
Tom Green
Preseason game.
00;24;29;21 - 00;24;32;01
Woody Paige
Yeah Broncos won that game. Yeah.
00;24;32;01 - 00;24;35;28
Ron Zappolo
But the national press seems to love green Bay.
00;24;36;04 - 00;24;41;11
Tom Green
Yeah. Well, they they played a game that everyone saw last week and they made big plays and they and.
00;24;41;11 - 00;24;46;09
Ron Zappolo
They're going to make it. They're going to play that same game next week. So this is the sandwich game for.
00;24;46;09 - 00;24;48;20
Tom Green
Green Bay all game pass game.
00;24;48;23 - 00;25;02;29
Woody Paige
Denver. Now here's the other thing. I believe that the owners of one team have $180 billion, and the owners of the other team have about $80 each.
00;25;03;02 - 00;25;05;26
Speaker 3
That's the difference. Each. That's what they have invested.
00;25;05;26 - 00;25;07;26
Woody Paige
Keep that in mind. That's true though.
00;25;07;28 - 00;25;10;12
Tom Green
All right. This would have been a great game 30 years ago.
00;25;10;16 - 00;25;11;18
Ron Zappolo
Yeah. Now it's tough. Do you.
00;25;11;18 - 00;25;23;19
Woody Paige
Think though. So the Broncos ownership puts in new grass every three weeks right. Yeah. Like that. The Packers go to their owners and say we need $10 from you. We'll put some new grass seed.
00;25;23;26 - 00;25;29;07
Ron Zappolo
The 800 owners, you get ten bucks apiece to get the Lambeau Field. But hey, you know.
00;25;29;07 - 00;25;32;04
Tom Green
The Monday nighter, it's the Dolphins in Pittsburgh.
00;25;32;04 - 00;25;41;07
Ron Zappolo
Because people don't realize this. And I like Mike McDaniel because he's from Denver. I'm sure that that team could have quit on him. They've won four in a row.
00;25;41;08 - 00;25;42;00
Tom Green
They're not dead.
00;25;42;00 - 00;25;56;25
Ron Zappolo
They're not dead. They get the same record as the Kansas City Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens. And they're still alive in December against the team. It's a perfect time to play the Steelers. They just beat their rival Ravens in a big game.
00;25;56;25 - 00;25;58;13
Tom Green
And maybe were gifted.
00;25;58;16 - 00;26;06;11
Ron Zappolo
And maybe were gifted that game. I know it doesn't sound I'm going to take the Dolphins and the three points because you know.
00;26;06;11 - 00;26;07;10
Speaker 3
What, I don't know.
00;26;07;12 - 00;26;12;23
Ron Zappolo
I'll tell you what, I don't trust Aaron Rodgers to put together back to back to back.
00;26;12;25 - 00;26;15;13
Tom Green
That was the best I thought it look this year was was last week.
00;26;15;13 - 00;26;20;12
Ron Zappolo
And the week before. You look washed. Yeah. Against I can't remember who they played.
00;26;20;14 - 00;26;24;26
Woody Paige
Here's the best advice. Don't bet this game.
00;26;25;01 - 00;26;27;24
Tom Green
Oh but it's okay. Yeah.
00;26;27;24 - 00;26;29;27
Woody Paige
Don't bet it. Don't bet it.
00;26;30;02 - 00;26;31;17
Ron Zappolo
I wouldn't do not betting.
00;26;31;17 - 00;26;44;14
Woody Paige
I'm taking I would I am going to pull for the Dolphins. I like Mike McDaniel I knew I knew when he was an intern at the Broncos. And, I think they should have at least given him a chance to interview here.
00;26;44;14 - 00;26;52;29
Tom Green
For this will be a tough game to bet, not only because of the line and the quality of the teams, but if you bet it, you likely have to watch.
00;26;53;02 - 00;26;54;07
Speaker 3
You know that.
00;26;54;09 - 00;27;06;13
Ron Zappolo
You know, I don't know Mike McDaniel, but I really, really like him. A he's from here. B I saw a story about a year ago. I think it was on ESPN how he handled his alcohol problem.
00;27;06;14 - 00;27;06;20
Tom Green
Yep.
00;27;06;25 - 00;27;08;29
Ron Zappolo
And I had.
00;27;09;02 - 00;27;09;08
Tom Green
No.
00;27;09;09 - 00;27;15;02
Ron Zappolo
Respect for him. And I tell you when I see the Dolphins I got no dog in the hunt. I root for him.
00;27;15;04 - 00;27;20;14
Woody Paige
How many coaches are in the NFL that went to an Ivy League school?
00;27;20;16 - 00;27;21;29
Tom Green
Yeah, it's a short list.
00;27;21;29 - 00;27;24;00
Ron Zappolo
That one. That's pretty small list.
00;27;24;02 - 00;27;32;07
Tom Green
Yeah. All right, let's take a look at, how things set up as we're in December now, Super Bowl odds. And you can see, the NFC getting top billing.
00;27;32;10 - 00;27;36;00
Ron Zappolo
Is just like at the dentist office for their or the optometrist.
00;27;36;03 - 00;27;38;02
Speaker 3
Because it's funny that we're.
00;27;38;02 - 00;27;40;13
Tom Green
Trying to make it smaller, but that's the best we could do.
00;27;40;13 - 00;27;46;21
Ron Zappolo
I'm with the Rams for one eye and go s t z okay. The Rams are the favorite
00;27;46;24 - 00;27;55;15
Tom Green
Prohibitive comparative to the others they're they're at plus 430. Then you have the Seahawks and Packers at 750. The bills Patriots.
00;27;55;15 - 00;27;58;15
Ron Zappolo
Why are the bills ahead of the Patriots and Broncos.
00;27;58;15 - 00;27;59;25
Tom Green
That's where the money is.
00;27;59;28 - 00;28;02;25
Ron Zappolo
That's why is that. Why is the money there.
00;28;02;28 - 00;28;08;23
Woody Paige
And C unlike you'd E and B. No I could read that bottom.
00;28;08;23 - 00;28;10;04
Ron Zappolo
Well you got better I think we should.
00;28;10;04 - 00;28;15;23
Tom Green
Well at 1100. Do you like the Broncos. You guys. He does the Broncos is good a shot at anyone. Why not take.
00;28;15;23 - 00;28;32;21
Ron Zappolo
It. Why not take 1100? Yeah, I mean, I do you honestly think that the bills who, if they lose this week to the Patriots are clearly going to be in the wild card. And the Patriots and Broncos may not be. Why would the bills be a better pick.
00;28;32;21 - 00;28;33;27
Tom Green
Josh Allen Josh okay.
00;28;34;03 - 00;28;34;13
Ron Zappolo
Josh.
00;28;34;13 - 00;28;35;00
Tom Green
Allen.
00;28;35;00 - 00;28;41;21
Ron Zappolo
But have they looked at the defense. You got to play. Josh doesn't play defense. Maybe he should. He could play line.
00;28;41;21 - 00;28;46;01
Tom Green
But their defense scored a couple touchdowns to win that game. It was a yes against Cincinnati.
00;28;46;01 - 00;28;49;19
Ron Zappolo
They also gave up 300 yards and four touchdown passes.
00;28;49;19 - 00;29;06;21
Tom Green
Well the Packers and Broncos play each other. So those numbers may shift a little bit depending on how they look against each other. The Bills and Patriots play each other. Those numbers certainly will shift depending on how that game goes. But I think the Broncos are pretty strong value play. That's not home cook. And that's that's for those numbers.
00;29;06;21 - 00;29;27;16
Tom Green
That's a pretty good pretty good window to take a take a shot there. NFL MVP odds are also available for people who want to play that. We talked about, how well Matthew Stafford is playing, all of these quarterbacks are going to be facing big games this weekend in big games the rest of the way. But as you can see, it's quarterbacks.
00;29;27;18 - 00;29;29;14
Tom Green
It's quarterbacks. It's quarterbacks. What do.
00;29;29;14 - 00;29;31;07
Ron Zappolo
You think Woodrow.
00;29;31;09 - 00;29;53;02
Woody Paige
I think that the MVP of the year would be Drake. Me I don't think enough people are going to vote for him. They're going to vote for Stafford I agree. But I if if I don't have a vote in this, I don't have a dog in this fight. I have had in the past. But to me it's it's Drake.
00;29;53;02 - 00;30;04;27
Woody Paige
May has been sensational for the second year quarterback and the Patriots would be nothing without it. Yeah. Think of these Patriots with Cam Newton or something.
00;30;04;29 - 00;30;13;16
Ron Zappolo
He's been great. But you're right though. People are going to vote for Matthew Stafford. But on the list of those names the best football player in the NFL.
00;30;13;17 - 00;30;14;04
Woody Paige
Is Josh.
00;30;14;04 - 00;30;15;01
Ron Zappolo
Allen is Josh Allen.
00;30;15;01 - 00;30;18;26
Tom Green
Yeah yeah. And he still will have time to prove that. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see.
00;30;18;26 - 00;30;29;25
Woody Paige
What happens I think see it said it's like the Joker discussion. We are in the media. We know what people are going to think. Man we gave it to Josh Allen last year.
00;30;29;25 - 00;30;31;14
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. Can't give it to you.
00;30;31;15 - 00;30;32;21
Ron Zappolo
No you're right.
00;30;32;23 - 00;30;39;09
Woody Paige
They always talk about you know people are tired fatigue of voting for people. Yeah. You vote for people because.
00;30;39;16 - 00;30;40;03
Tom Green
It's their year.
00;30;40;04 - 00;30;40;21
Woody Paige
They they.
00;30;40;22 - 00;30;41;10
Ron Zappolo
Earned it.
00;30;41;12 - 00;30;43;19
Woody Paige
I mean I would vote for Josh Allen every year.
00;30;43;20 - 00;30;56;13
Tom Green
When you talk about given stuff, it's amazing what all this the advice we've just given away because this is really you think if you're someone at home and you like to bet every now and then, this has been incredible information that we've put forward.
00;30;56;13 - 00;30;57;04
Ron Zappolo
And it's free.
00;30;57;04 - 00;30;58;00
Tom Green
Yeah.
00;30;58;02 - 00;30;59;19
Ron Zappolo
We're not charging them 80 bucks.
00;30;59;24 - 00;31;01;20
Tom Green
You get what you pay for it.
00;31;01;22 - 00;31;02;14
Ron Zappolo
It's all free.
00;31;02;14 - 00;31;03;27
Tom Green
We're the best in your price, right?
00;31;03;28 - 00;31;11;10
Ron Zappolo
Just give me 80. You. I love those touts I used to have. Where you. 585 bucks. And I guarantee to get you three out of four winners this year.
00;31;11;10 - 00;31;23;05
Woody Paige
And if this doesn't really do it for you, if this is not enough, if I haven't given you enough, I'll. I'll be appearing at Darcy's, Irish pub to come up to me, buy me a beer, and.
00;31;23;06 - 00;31;24;14
Ron Zappolo
I'll tell you whatever you want to.
00;31;24;14 - 00;31;27;28
Woody Paige
Know. Yeah. You don't even get to spend 30 minutes with those two guys.
00;31;27;28 - 00;31;46;14
Tom Green
They handicap. It's a tennis matches in Sri Lanka for you. Thanks for joining us, as always. We always love to get your feedback. We are at, at, at Gorilla Sportsnet. And again, as always, we like the cost you you know, bet within your limits and don't listen to what we say that's going to do it.
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Tom Green
We hope to see you back here again next week.
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Woody Paige
Thank you Mike.
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Ron Zappolo
It goes without saying. Don't listen to what we say.
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Tom Green
Don't write anything down.
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Unknown
Don't hold us.