Tom, Woody, and Ron break down a wild Thanksgiving “Weekend Betting Edition,” covering Lions–Packers, Chiefs–Cowboys, Bears–Eagles, 49ers–Browns, Texans–Colts, Bills–Steelers, and Broncos–Commanders. Then it shifts to rivalry week: Ohio State–Michigan, A&M–Texas, Arizona–Arizona State, Georgia–Georgia Tech, Tennessee–Vanderbilt, and more. The trio mixes sharp analysis with the usual off-the-rails humor, capped by a classic Woody urologist story.
This Thanksgiving Weekend Betting Edition of After the Horn brings Tom, Woody, and Ron together for a full slate of NFL and college football picks. They dig into Lions–Packers, Chiefs–Cowboys, Bears–Eagles, 49ers–Browns, Texans–Colts, Bills–Steelers, and the Broncos taking on Washington. From there, they dive into every major rivalry game of the week, including Ohio State–Michigan, Texas A&M–Texas, Arizona–Arizona State, Georgia–Georgia Tech, and Tennessee–Vanderbilt. The conversation swings from strong opinions to pure comedy, ending with an unforgettable Woody story from a recent urologist visit — a perfect chaotic cap to the holiday edition.
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Woody Paige
He said.
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Tom Green
And there's an open chicken.
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Woody Paige
Fried.
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Ron Zappolo
Chicken fried. We just start with the why?
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Tom Green
There's no stinger, no nothing to rub off. Yeah. Okay.
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Woody Paige
Asphalt. I'm going to put a pony in. That's why I'm working. He said, do you really think you are? I guess not.
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Tom Green
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Woody Paige
And I looked at the picture last night. Remember that? Dad talked me out of mourning a pony. Every kid wanted a pony.
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Tom Green
All right.
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Ron Zappolo
Ready for the. Okay. Yes. We're ready.
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Tom Green
So they'll do a little bumper, and then you tell us that and change the screens, right?
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah. Yeah.
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Woody Paige
Get out of the way. All right. Good.
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Tom Green
Do you ever see the movie Bulworth? Oh, I know of it, but I didn't see it. It was a great movie, but Warren Beatty, Warren Beatty made a lot of great films in that time. But in the movie Bulworth, he's going to. He hires the guy to kill him, and he calls it the Weekend Research Project. And every time you say the Weekend Betting Show, you think of.
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Woody Paige
The weekend.
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Tom Green
Research program.
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Natasha
Gosh.
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Tom Green
It was a very good film. It was him. Halle Berry, a couple of great character actors, Don Cheadle, but it was Beatty was really good. He played a United States senator. Okay. Who goes kind of off the rail, off the rails. Yeah. And it was very funny political humor. It was before its time. It was really good. You know, he's supposed to give this political speech, and he looks at the speech and he goes.
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Ron Zappolo
Fuck this, this is really good.
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Tom Green
And he starts talking about how insurance companies are screwing you. And I mean, it just it was just hilarious. It was just a little ahead of its time.
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Natasha
Or something to put on the watch list then.
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Tom Green
Yeah. Bulworth. Bulworth. It's, It's it's if you like, Warren Beatty. And it was back in his day when he was, you know, watching it. And Halle Berry's in it. It it's very funny. It's political and it's, you know, it's it's ties up a bunch of loose ends. It's good.
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Ron Zappolo
Okay. Yeah.
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Woody Paige
If you loved Bulworth, you'd like the movie that the three of us are starring in called bullshit.
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Tom Green
And Senator Bulworth.
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Natasha
All right. Take it.
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Tom Green
Rolling. Roll that bumper and we're going.
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Woody Paige
Yeah. Okay.
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Tom Green
Weekend betting edition. We're back again to give you some more advice. It's worth. This is. Thanks so much.
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Woody Paige
Isn't this just. Why are we home eating food? But in watching games with you.
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Tom Green
Well, there are some big football games that people got to know about. There's so many games this week on the betting edition, and it's often when you think of that many games. How is it possible that the three of us have properly researched all those games to give you the best advice? The answer is it just likely didn't happen.
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Tom Green
You know, the other problem is with that. If you're a gambler, yeah, this is a tough time because you can't help yourself. It's like a guy who's addicted to drugs. I mean, there's so many games. What are you going to do? You can't pull yourself away. Well, let's get to the menu. Because Thanksgiving is all about menus. We start with the Turkey Day NFL games.
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Tom Green
As always, Detroit hosting. This time it's the green Bay Packers. Two teams that seem to be unable to really locate who they actually are. Detroit, a two and a half point home favorite. Sounds about right. I look at these Thursday games and I think the home team has a huge advantage. I don't think either of these teams are playing that well, but I'm going to play the two and a half and take the Lions.
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Tom Green
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Woody Paige
I think that line is totally backward and wrong. I think the Packers should be favored in this game. I know they're playing at Detroit and people that don't gamble much know that really. That's a this is an even spread right. Because you get two two and a half points for you know home advantage. I got the Packers not only staying within two and a half points or whatever that is, but they're going to win the game.
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Woody Paige
They're going away. The Lions are not the Lions of last year.
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Tom Green
The Packers are the team that in the last six weeks has lost at home to the Carolina Panthers and the Cleveland Browns. Not a good look.
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Woody Paige
That's why they're rested and ready.
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Tom Green
They've been coasting. You look at their records though. And both teams this is this a could be a survival game for either of these teams as far as preseason picks to go to the, the NFC playoffs. So we'll see. I'll go with Ron, though. I'll ride with Ron and take the Lions at home, though I never ride with me when it comes to gambling.
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Tom Green
Given the two and a half then the game, people are saying this may be the most watched regular season game in NFL history, bringing the Kansas City Chiefs and the Dallas Cowboys to Jim Nantz, Jim Nantz said.
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Ron Zappolo
Hello, friends. He'll be.
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Tom Green
He'll be on the call.
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Natasha
Because they're two of the most hated teams.
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Tom Green
But people like to watch him and like to hate him. Not so much. Jim Nantz and not.
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Woody Paige
You know, Jim Nantz said. This is Jim because he's doing this.
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Tom Green
Ever said anything like profound? Not oh, it's my friend.
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Woody Paige
You know, he wrote.
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Tom Green
Well, come on everybody. Is your friend Jim Nantz. Is he ever said anything really profound? Has he ever gone after anybody? Has he ever taken anybody? He's the.
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Woody Paige
Type. That's not what he's supposed to be.
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Tom Green
I know he's he's the he hosts the Masters in football, but I mean, at least Joe Buck who, say what you want about Joe Buck? Joe Buck is not afraid. Stick his neck out. Yes, I can, maybe it's because of my background. I know what Jim Nantz is supposed.
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Woody Paige
To do with Joe.
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Tom Green
Biden.
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Woody Paige
He kept a job for 45 years.
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Tom Green
Yeah, exactly.
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Woody Paige
Because he.
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Tom Green
So his doesn't offend anybody as far as being on it late afternoon on Thanksgiving Day, two big franchises. I think he's right. It will be the most watched regular season game in history. There are more people around, too. It's funny because both these teams right around 500 Chiefs a game over that. Cowboys five, five and one dead at 500.
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Tom Green
I think both teams are surprised to be at 500. The Cowboys in a positive way. The Chiefs in a negative way. You beat up boys on Sunday were what, a three point home underdog and won the game straight up in incredible fashion. I don't know who's going to win this game. It's I'm going to take the Cowboys and the points just because I think it's going to be a close game.
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Tom Green
Woody.
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Woody Paige
I think that's bullshit.
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Ron Zappolo
I probably do.
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Woody Paige
I think the Chiefs I'm.
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Tom Green
Here to.
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Woody Paige
The Chiefs are kind of I think righted the ship.
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Ron Zappolo
Okay.
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Woody Paige
I think the Cowboys suck. That's just my personal opinion. I'm going to can't say he's favored by three. I like that I like that I would take.
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Tom Green
I like the Chiefs too. I just think their defense is more durable. They like the Cowboys. The guy that likes the Cowboys in this group, if you play against us, you play this team. Take whatever you want. It's the night game. Hey, but the only reason to watch this game and a lot of America well is because Joe Burrow.
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Tom Green
Yeah, he's probably going to play in this game.
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Woody Paige
That that's why you'd watch.
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Tom Green
Well, I mean, if you're a football fan.
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Woody Paige
I mean I mean he's been hurt a lot over the last two weeks.
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Tom Green
So Lamar Jackson.
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Woody Paige
For the guy that you know was going to be, you know, one of those future faces of the NFL. His since it's been a spotted kind of career.
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Tom Green
Well he had the greatest concern.
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Woody Paige
Ravens are coming.
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Tom Green
Over.
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Woody Paige
The Ravens are coming. Look out, look out Pittsburgh. The Ravens are coming. They are now in first place.
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Tom Green
A week ago he had Pittsburgh winning the division. Now the Ravens are coming. They've already come so they're going to win.
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Woody Paige
Well I was in concussion protocol.
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Tom Green
But if you look at the Bengals you think why are they even bringing Joe Burrow back unless he's 100% healthy? Because three and eight because guys want to play. But I'm also saying they might look around and go because we could still win the division.
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Woody Paige
Know the I think it's a case of the Bengals are saying we don't want, the Cleveland Browns to be worse than us and get a higher draft choice. I think that's fight for draft choices.
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Tom Green
Could be anti. Higgins is out for the Bengals which will make a difference. Although,
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Woody Paige
Let's move on to Ja'Marr Chase. Let's move on.
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Tom Green
Got a Friday game this week as well. This is you got to have your Amazon Prime on to see the Bears and Eagles. The bears have surprisingly made their way there to the top both eight and three. The NFC. Now the bears are there. Everyone's a game behind the Rams. But they remind the Broncos a little bit.
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Tom Green
They figure out ways to win games. They have. Yeah. They don't maybe do it in spectacular fashion but they figure out ways to win. Ben Johnson has done an excellent job with this team and with Caleb Williams. And Philly's up and down two I think I think you take the bears. You take those seven points and you look for them to play well and I'm gonna take.
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Woody Paige
I can't I can't sit here. Natasha.
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Tom Green
Good.
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Woody Paige
Can't you take over for me.
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Natasha
And I'll go back.
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Woody Paige
To what we always say. The team that you should go with is the team that has to win this game. Guess who has to win this game?
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Tom Green
The bears.
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Woody Paige
Who's playing at.
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Ron Zappolo
Home.
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Woody Paige
You know who is playing at home? Who just got to be better Cowboys. Who needs to prove themselves again that season.
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Tom Green
There's a reason they lost to the Cowboys though. They had a 21 nothing lead in Dallas in lost that let that get away. There's and there is problems all season in Philly some dysfunction in Philadelphia I don't know what's going on with Jalen Hurts and all these stories I read. But something's going on there. All right let's get to Sunday.
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Tom Green
Take a look at the National Football League. This is the 40.
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Woody Paige
Niners I mentioned. Do you remember little Anthony.
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Tom Green
And the aerials.
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Woody Paige
Yeah. What was their most famous.
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Tom Green
Going out of my.
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Woody Paige
Head. Oh, it hurts so bad. It hurts so bad.
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Tom Green
Oh, hurt. So hurt.
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Woody Paige
So I guess you're saying hurts so bad.
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Tom Green
Jalen hurts so bad. Just put a comma in there.
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Woody Paige
Sorry. That was me. I think.
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Tom Green
It was Mellencamp's.
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Woody Paige
40 Niners and the Browns didn't.
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Tom Green
It? Yeah he did hurt so good. Hurts so good I hurt so good. Hurts so bad isn't it? All this is. It hurts. Yeah. Let's go to Cleveland. This Utah show will continue the 40 niners off of their Monday night win. Somehow, some way, the 40 niners keep patching together a team good enough to win. And if you're going to have a road game this time of year, you like to be in Cleveland.
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Tom Green
40 Niners didn't look great the other night. Just the three intercepts. Herdy throwing the three picks. Maybe because I'm going to root for solder. I have no feel on this game whatsoever. Take the home team in the points.
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Woody Paige
I have a feeling for this game. We invited Mike Shanahan to join us this week and he chose not to politely. And I think I think he's trying to help the 40 Niners. I think he's because you know that when they practice the 40.
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Tom Green
Niners, he.
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Woody Paige
Says in my presence and he he helps coach that team. And he and Kyle, you know it's his father and he's the mastermind. He's going to be in the Hall of Fame. The Browns are they they stunk. They they're awful. Well, if no, they won last week.
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Tom Green
But if you didn't like Brock Purdy, Myles Garrett will probably take him out of the game at some point. And you'll be back to Mack Mac Jones. Or plus the Browns have a halfway decent defense. I'll say I'll say they get after you. So I'll just take the under on that one. But he likes the Niners okay. Now let's go to, Carolina.
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Tom Green
The, the Panthers who somehow are in the playoff picture, and the Rams, who sit atop the NFC, the Rams a hefty ten point pick on the road.
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Woody Paige
That's hard for me to believe.
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Tom Green
Ten points on the road in the National. I mean.
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Woody Paige
The Rams are good.
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Tom Green
Against the team above 500.
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Woody Paige
The Rams will be in the Super Bowl. We think they're the best team in the NFC. Panthers are looking better I can't believe it's ten points because the Panthers are not a terrible team this year.
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Tom Green
Bryce Young looked like he still had some of that stuff that made that doesn't help you win on Monday night.
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Woody Paige
I think I take the Panthers into points because I just don't think it's going to be.
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Tom Green
You don't get many home ten point dogs in the NFL when your team's above 500. Well let you know what they think of the Rams. Rams are a unit right now. They are playing the best football. Certainly there's a reason they're nine and two. But laying ten points never seems like I'm going to go with Woody. I would take the ten, but I would not bet the game because I wouldn't be stunned if the Rams went in there and cleaned up.
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Tom Green
Put a 31. Yeah.
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Woody Paige
This is not going to be the most watched game.
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Tom Green
No, no it will not. I was going to bet on the under but not on the 46 a half. I was going to bet I was going to bet on the under for the TV ratings. This is a sneaky good game here. Texans have come alive, I've come alive and they've got two left with the Colts. Daniel Jones is starting to go downhill.
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Tom Green
The Texans have won three in a row with their backup quarterback. Now, I don't know what C.J. Stroud's, situation is this week. He's been in concussion protocol for almost a month, but I kind of like the Texans in the points. Yeah, the Colts look shaky and not letting up that the Texans defense is the real deal. They're real.
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Tom Green
I think the Colts you know the way they lost this game last week to the Kansas City Chiefs. Their coach and their quarterback came up short. They forgot they had the best player maybe in the National Football League and Jonathan Taylor. But I think Andy Reid gave you the template. You make sure that you contain Jonathan Taylor and you challenge Daniel Jones to beat you.
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Tom Green
But Texans the Texans are a tougher defense than they faced in Kansas City. Yes. And Kansas City was able to dictate. So what we'll do. Exactly. So I like the Texans I like them going into Indy. Tough place to play. And I like them to cover that.
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Woody Paige
John Fox told me an interesting, aspect of the game when he was the coach of the Broncos. He said, you simplified it. Here's a game of matchups, and what you want to do is take away their best player, whatever that takes. Meaning double teaming, right? That you chip him whatever. And he's very successful here. I mean he with the and also with the Panthers where he got two Super Bowls.
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Woody Paige
He didn't win any. But he was a good he was a damn good coach. And I like listening to him. I think that what you do with the Texans, you're already a good defense. Take Taylor out of the game again like the Chiefs did. And you win this game.
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Tom Green
Yeah. And they'll get it. And they will get that number 51 Anderson will they'll get after Daniel Jones. And I think.
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Woody Paige
They all know you talk about Daniel Jones. And the Colts are on the way there. They're down kind.
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Tom Green
Of the same guy Arnold.
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Woody Paige
They didn't lose four more games I think because they got three on the road that yeah they.
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Tom Green
Have some tough games.
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Woody Paige
Left. So before the game because I thought they were going to lose the Chiefs. I said they're going to lose four games. So they will be
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Tom Green
Yeah. It's going to come down to the Broncos.
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Woody Paige
And the Patriots. You would think.
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Tom Green
That. Yeah. All right. Bills and Steelers another good AFC match up. Buffalo going down to Pittsburgh. Buffalo a four point favorite is is it Mason Rudolph again probably although Aaron Rodgers it might be Aaron Rodgers. But neither of these teams instills a lot of confidence lately. The bills are going to have to at some point start playing like a team that wants to win playoff games.
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Tom Green
If they are, in fact a team that's going to win playoff games. But so far this year, they seem like they've drifted struggled to even you know Josh Allen does his thing. But he this is a company and cast hasn't. And their defense hasn't stood. So Steelers coming off the loss in Chicago. Buffalo a four point favorite on the road.
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Tom Green
That's an ugly line to try to pick. It is I don't have a strong I really don't have a strong feeling of bills.
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Woody Paige
Bills I would Josh Allen's went back to well I mean they retired his jersey.
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Tom Green
They they cost out Wksu and that and that is why you know.
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Woody Paige
That was fun.
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Tom Green
Those will cover that was funny.
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Woody Paige
And he said it still sucks for.
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Ron Zappolo
You know.
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Tom Green
It.
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Woody Paige
Sucks to be the Rams or Bucks to be the Rams. But that's what he would say when he was there while. So he was actually being funny. He was not bringing up something. I mean it that it's like, you know rocking top to the city. Yes.
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Tom Green
You know, the problem I have with Josh Allen, I watch that he's.
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Woody Paige
Got a.
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Tom Green
Game he ran into a lot of those sacks. Yeah. Trying to make a play when you're better off just throwing the ball.
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Woody Paige
He was being like a doer. He was. It's all over the field.
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Tom Green
I think that shows the frustration that he's had this year with their offense at times not really clicking. Yeah well you know what. He was thrilled that Stefon Diggs left a couple years ago I wonder if he looks at those receivers today where he kind of wishes he had him back.
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Woody Paige
But I he he may have to run for five and throw for five.
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Tom Green
Yes. Yeah we did the run for three throws.
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Woody Paige
I think that Rodgers will come back. And this is this here's the bet.
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Tom Green
Here it is.
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Woody Paige
Silence over this is game is going to be you know.
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Tom Green
You sounded like Donald Trump when you said silence you I thought you were going to say quiet piggy.
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Ron Zappolo
Did you.
00;17;38;08 - 00;17;43;22
Woody Paige
That's what I'm going to say this to the hey, I'm thirsty for quiet, piggy. But did you.
00;17;43;29 - 00;17;44;13
Ron Zappolo
Know.
00;17;44;15 - 00;18;07;05
Tom Green
Well, we're almost into December, so next month's house payment. We can't bet yet. Hey, I'm going to take the Broncos. Let me get right out of here. I can't, I need to make Rod Smith happy. I'm taking the Broncos, especially knowing that. And I read this last night that Marcus Mariota will be the Washington quarterback. Well you mentioned Rod Smith who wasn't happy with you picking against the Broncos at KC.
00;18;07;05 - 00;18;12;27
Tom Green
But Rod Smith who always remember his first touchdown catch at the gun against Washington. Yeah.
00;18;13;00 - 00;18;17;05
Woody Paige
Oh well what that was like 89 yards or something.
00;18;17;08 - 00;18;26;25
Tom Green
It was like a 45 yard game. And I know Darryl Green was on him Darryl Green we all went into the locker room, were all saying to each other, which guy is rod Smith.
00;18;26;27 - 00;18;27;26
Ron Zappolo
You see that we know.
00;18;27;27 - 00;18;30;28
Woody Paige
Is he the guy that played quarterback at Lake Central Missouri?
00;18;30;28 - 00;18;45;05
Tom Green
He's the guy who is still one of my all time favorite players, won the award, never missed an offseason workout, just played his ass off for a decade to become one of the better receivers ever.
00;18;45;08 - 00;18;51;02
Woody Paige
And does belong in the Hall in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. However, there's such a list of wide receivers.
00;18;51;02 - 00;18;57;28
Tom Green
Did you see that list that just came out yesterday? The 25 finalists? There's not a Bronco on it. No, not a Bronco on it. Made the 25.
00;18;58;03 - 00;18;59;00
Natasha
And left.
00;18;59;00 - 00;18;59;13
Ron Zappolo
Off.
00;18;59;15 - 00;19;11;03
Woody Paige
Their former center was deserves to be there. Just a point. In a what were you talking about about the Broncos commanders. Yes. That I didn't get to say.
00;19;11;05 - 00;19;12;19
Ron Zappolo
00;19;12;22 - 00;19;25;18
Woody Paige
Here's my stat of the week. They have won those games since they beat Cowboys. They have won the games by a total of 16 points.
00;19;25;20 - 00;19;28;26
Tom Green
So laying six and a half is hard, is a lot. Washington looks like.
00;19;29;03 - 00;19;38;29
Woody Paige
So that's what I wanted to say is they're not winning. They're winning by one, two and three points. Yeah look at that. Minus six point.
00;19;39;01 - 00;19;39;14
Tom Green
Along.
00;19;39;14 - 00;19;42;16
Woody Paige
The road I, I.
00;19;42;18 - 00;19;43;01
Tom Green
I.
00;19;43;03 - 00;19;44;14
Woody Paige
I think it'll still go.
00;19;44;17 - 00;20;04;22
Tom Green
Those numbers next to the commander's name. There they are three and eight. And if you look at some of their games they haven't been all that competitive when Jayden Daniels is not there. Yeah. They're like a different they've been in a bit of chaos this year with all that. So but I agree that it's a lot of points.
00;20;04;22 - 00;20;07;03
Tom Green
It is maybe a stiff money line.
00;20;07;04 - 00;20;16;08
Woody Paige
Well don't you think there's this little inside secret though, that the coach of the commanders is pissed at the Broncos, that they didn't hire him.
00;20;16;10 - 00;20;32;01
Tom Green
First year. Well, coach him up and down, coach him up Sunday Night Football. Oh, now we go to rah rah, sis boom box coach football. So we did all the pros. We're going back to Friday. Saturday. Now all the college football games that you want to bet. And there's all these rivalry games. And that's the thing.
00;20;32;01 - 00;20;54;08
Tom Green
You take these games and you look at them on one level offense, defense how they've played this year, all this stuff. And then you look at and then there's the history of the rivalry. Like you think of Georgia Georgia Tech eight overtimes last year. Haynes King you know what Georgia Tech Georgia Tech watching them Saturday night when Woody and I were pick them strongly and I looked up and it was 28 to nothing.
00;20;54;08 - 00;21;02;13
Tom Green
Pittsburgh, not against Pittsburgh. The hell with Georgia Tech. Go Dawgs cover that 13. And now the Ramblin Wreck is a wreck. And I.
00;21;02;13 - 00;21;05;15
Woody Paige
Say ditto.
00;21;05;17 - 00;21;10;06
Tom Green
Well let's let's say let's do the dogs on that one. Now we go to A&M travel.
00;21;10;08 - 00;21;11;11
Woody Paige
That's a yes.
00;21;11;12 - 00;21;12;24
Tom Green
And it goes to Austin.
00;21;12;24 - 00;21;13;21
Woody Paige
When you want to see.
00;21;13;22 - 00;21;18;21
Tom Green
A&M unbeaten a two and a half point pick I may take that one in.
00;21;18;23 - 00;21;38;28
Woody Paige
I told you guys you were six. And I said long term is A&M is the most disrespected or even unsuspected team in college football. And they're now third. They're still undefeated. They're going to beat Texas. They're better than Texas. They have a better defense. They got a great defense. Now they were.
00;21;38;28 - 00;21;43;09
Tom Green
Getting whacks 30 to 3 in their last game at halftime and came back and won the game.
00;21;43;09 - 00;21;46;04
Woody Paige
Well. And that's another thing they could do is they could come back.
00;21;46;11 - 00;21;46;19
Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
00;21;46;19 - 00;21;56;25
Tom Green
They've proven hey one thing about Arch Manning though is he joined Jameis Winston is two guys this weekend that threw touchdown passes and caught touchdown.
00;21;56;25 - 00;21;59;17
Woody Paige
Didn't Bo Nix do that in his rookie year.
00;21;59;17 - 00;22;01;16
Tom Green
He caught one to start against that.
00;22;01;18 - 00;22;04;02
Woody Paige
I think he ran for one. And I think he may have thrown one.
00;22;04;02 - 00;22;06;09
Tom Green
So you like you like the Aggies.
00;22;06;11 - 00;22;07;11
Woody Paige
Oh totally.
00;22;07;11 - 00;22;11;23
Tom Green
Yeah Brian ditto. You're going with the Aggies.
00;22;11;25 - 00;22;15;14
Tom Green
Yeah. You can't. It's so tough. No I would.
00;22;15;16 - 00;22;18;00
Woody Paige
Just be like Jim Nantz and not give them opinion.
00;22;18;07 - 00;22;35;01
Tom Green
Just be like Jim Nantz this go right on I'm going to I'm going to take the over or over 51.5. Let's do that. That's out of the Woody playbook I like. All right. This one I always think of this as being a good showdown. It reminded me of our fellow, partner here in gorilla Sports, Jake the Snake.
00;22;35;01 - 00;22;48;20
Tom Green
Back when, that these games matter. Jake Plummer used to play in these games. Eddie Bruschi over on the other side of the ball for the Wildcats. Arizona. Traveling to Tempe, Arizona, is a one and a half point road favorite.
00;22;48;23 - 00;22;57;00
Woody Paige
You're talking about Jake Plummer, the most famous Broncos quarterback in history that didn't do anything. Also played at Arizona.
00;22;57;03 - 00;22;58;05
Tom Green
At Arizona.
00;22;58;08 - 00;23;00;16
Woody Paige
Or Arizona State.
00;23;00;18 - 00;23;01;25
Tom Green
Famous quarterback.
00;23;02;02 - 00;23;03;08
Woody Paige
Rock.
00;23;03;11 - 00;23;12;24
Tom Green
Rock, CSU, ASU. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Both these teams have something in common. They've both beat. See you handily.
00;23;12;27 - 00;23;14;03
Natasha
That doesn't make sense.
00;23;14;06 - 00;23;14;25
Ron Zappolo
I didn't want to.
00;23;14;25 - 00;23;26;06
Tom Green
Rub their nose. You know, the handily is correct. I don't I you know what I, I'm just take the home team here. I'll take Arizona State. So I'll take the overlook for a shootout. Yeah. I,
00;23;26;11 - 00;23;30;13
Woody Paige
I like the coach at Arizona more than I like to coach at the state.
00;23;30;14 - 00;23;32;22
Tom Green
Those are. Those are the, rivalries. Okay, here's the game.
00;23;32;23 - 00;23;34;21
Woody Paige
Oh, sorry. I'm taking Arizona.
00;23;34;25 - 00;23;35;25
Tom Green
Arizona? I agree.
00;23;35;25 - 00;23;36;23
Woody Paige
With you. Nobody cares.
00;23;36;23 - 00;24;00;17
Tom Green
I think this is an interesting. This is a fascinating game. Here's the here's the story here. The last time Ohio State lost a football game, it was this game. And there are a sizable amount of Ohio State alumni who think, yeah, it's great we won the national title, but who gives a shit? We got beat by Michigan and that's how they feel.
00;24;00;17 - 00;24;23;06
Tom Green
So last year this game was in Columbus. Yes, it's Ohio State's favored by nine and a half. Michigan's ranked this year. Last year Michigan was worse in Columbus. They must have been two and a half to you right Ryan Day they've lost four straight to Michigan. Yeah they have Ryan Day has got to win this game or National championships be damned.
00;24;23;08 - 00;24;43;01
Tom Green
They'll set his house on fire. And here's what I think is going to happen. I think Ohio State will not call off the dogs in this game. I think they will try to score as many if they're up 31, three less and I'll I'll take it a I'll say 41 to 17 Ohio State. So you like I like you the Buckeyes and the over as well.
00;24;43;03 - 00;24;58;11
Tom Green
We do have to start this time of year, especially in Michigan and places like that in the National Football League. Looking at weather early forecast on this one would be cold with snow. So that might affect Ohio State. Isn't their bruising team. They used to be. They throw the football.
00;24;58;17 - 00;25;09;22
Woody Paige
I think it Ohio State has been the most boring number one team I remember in my life. Nobody's paying attention to the number one team because it just running up to score.
00;25;09;22 - 00;25;18;23
Tom Green
But they also strangle people defensively, their defense. They also become to to Tom's. But don't they're not the best wide receivers for people who are three year.
00;25;18;23 - 00;25;24;00
Woody Paige
Yeah people are talking about Notre Dame. People are talking about SEC. Why are.
00;25;24;00 - 00;25;24;27
Tom Green
People talking about.
00;25;24;27 - 00;25;29;00
Woody Paige
Notre Dame? And they're not because that's what Notre Dame U.
00;25;29;04 - 00;25;30;01
Tom Green
Notre Dame.
00;25;30;04 - 00;25;30;28
Woody Paige
I know they just.
00;25;30;28 - 00;25;33;14
Tom Green
Run up the scores on weak teams.
00;25;33;17 - 00;25;57;03
Woody Paige
I'm Taylor, I'm the bad. The bad here is to take Michigan and the points because these teams hate each other and they don't think they're going to keep it close. They're not going to you act like they're going to brought it up, but write it up right. Yeah I think they can run it up and playing in Michigan, and there's going to be bad weather in the middle of the country.
00;25;57;09 - 00;26;04;19
Woody Paige
And it's not going to be a throwing. They're successfully throwing for 300 yards against Michigan.
00;26;04;19 - 00;26;07;25
Tom Green
That's sometimes it's tough on the DB's. Sometimes you get a good.
00;26;07;25 - 00;26;09;21
Woody Paige
One going to beat by.
00;26;09;24 - 00;26;12;17
Tom Green
Why that knows where he's going. Yeah, yeah I'm good.
00;26;12;17 - 00;26;16;04
Woody Paige
But this is the week. This is the week I'm betting my entire paycheck.
00;26;16;04 - 00;26;18;26
Tom Green
Oh no. I'm going to go with you. I'm going to take money and I'm.
00;26;18;26 - 00;26;21;05
Woody Paige
Going to triple my paycheck.
00;26;21;07 - 00;26;22;26
Tom Green
Your paycheck from here?
00;26;22;29 - 00;26;23;11
Woody Paige
Yes.
00;26;23;11 - 00;26;39;18
Tom Green
The only one he gets. Yeah. We're going we're going to go against each other because I think the Buckeyes I do I think they will be so ready to play this game. Oh so I just know what that fan base certainly their last best game before the playoffs.
00;26;39;19 - 00;26;50;12
Woody Paige
You are. Yes. They're they're the better team and everything. But Michigan needs to get up for one game. And this is the game Woody did they not.
00;26;50;12 - 00;26;51;21
Tom Green
Do you know what's next.
00;26;51;21 - 00;26;53;10
Woody Paige
Yes, I do get to it.
00;26;53;12 - 00;27;06;13
Tom Green
Vanderbilt going across the state to take on Tennessee. Two top 20 teams. Tennessee is favored against Diego Pavia and the Commodores. I
00;27;06;15 - 00;27;15;21
Woody Paige
I'm 79. I've written a Tennessee fan since I was one and a half. My dad took me to Crump Stadium in Memphis.
00;27;15;21 - 00;27;16;05
Tom Green
To head that.
00;27;16;05 - 00;27;18;06
Woody Paige
Up to see Ole Miss.
00;27;18;07 - 00;27;18;22
Tom Green
Over fan.
00;27;18;22 - 00;27;31;05
Woody Paige
I've been a fan ever since, and I watch school there and I'm in. Anyway, to see has beaten Vanderbilt in my life like 78 times.
00;27;31;07 - 00;27;36;24
Woody Paige
Vanderbilt can't be that this is benefits, but you can look it up. But somebody at home look it up.
00;27;36;24 - 00;27;40;11
Tom Green
Since Vanderbilt, it is like this is one of those rivalry games though.
00;27;40;13 - 00;27;41;17
Woody Paige
Where know it's not a right.
00;27;41;18 - 00;27;50;02
Tom Green
Exactly. Because it is to Vanderbilt. Tennessee looks at it like them. As somebody once said, it's not a rivalry between the hammer.
00;27;50;02 - 00;27;52;09
Ron Zappolo
And the nail.
00;27;52;12 - 00;27;55;29
Woody Paige
Yeah that was that was Nebraska. Never thought it was a rivalry.
00;27;56;01 - 00;27;58;03
Tom Green
Right? Right. And then what happened they had to be.
00;27;58;03 - 00;27;58;17
Woody Paige
Forced.
00;27;58;17 - 00;28;01;20
Tom Green
Into right. Yeah. They've had their nose rubbed in it.
00;28;01;22 - 00;28;03;28
Woody Paige
The Tennessee's going to win this game.
00;28;04;01 - 00;28;04;28
Tom Green
Hey let me ask you.
00;28;05;00 - 00;28;05;21
Woody Paige
Nothing at.
00;28;05;23 - 00;28;06;23
Tom Green
Tennessee is all.
00;28;06;23 - 00;28;20;23
Natasha
Right. Wait. No. And how do how old did you say that you are? Because the number actually Tennessee leads and this says 7932 five. So Vanderbilt with 32 wins, Tennessee with 79. So they've.
00;28;20;23 - 00;28;22;19
Tom Green
Been playing since just after the Civil.
00;28;22;19 - 00;28;23;03
Ron Zappolo
War.
00;28;23;04 - 00;28;26;23
Tom Green
Yeah I'm.
00;28;26;25 - 00;28;34;06
Woody Paige
I'm 79 and they've won 79 I think Vanderbilt won those games in the late 1800s.
00;28;34;09 - 00;28;37;11
Tom Green
They were better than that's why they got the name. They were Commodore.
00;28;37;14 - 00;28;40;05
Natasha
I guess I should have looked up modern era, maybe.
00;28;40;08 - 00;28;41;00
Tom Green
The last.
00;28;41;02 - 00;28;44;28
Woody Paige
Five years. A really good team this year. They've had some good teams when.
00;28;44;28 - 00;28;46;14
Tom Green
Their quarterback is a Heisman.
00;28;46;14 - 00;28;51;03
Woody Paige
But I'm telling you that Tennessee tosses it, but that has nothing to do.
00;28;51;06 - 00;28;54;25
Natasha
So he played 118 times since 1892.
00;28;54;26 - 00;28;57;15
Tom Green
Oh man I remember that first one.
00;28;57;17 - 00;29;02;00
Woody Paige
Windy that was biased with the, I think I was at the fourth game.
00;29;02;02 - 00;29;14;23
Tom Green
But but if you look at one thing on this, this board that stands out is that Over under is north of 60. I mean, they are expecting a an air show, no points. Yeah. So well.
00;29;14;26 - 00;29;35;07
Woody Paige
Tennessee started off last week and they had a 31 to nothing lead at halftime. And they didn't score game because they just put it back right. We got Vanderbilt coming. So I don't I think the under is the number there because they're not both. They want to score a lot of points but they don't. Yeah. Take the under on that.
00;29;35;13 - 00;29;42;13
Woody Paige
Take Tennessee. Tennessee's not going to win Tennessee wants to go to the Sugar Bowl which has no meaning anymore.
00;29;42;14 - 00;29;44;13
Tom Green
Vanderbilt wants to get into the playoff.
00;29;44;16 - 00;29;48;02
Woody Paige
Yeah that's what I'm talking about. They want to go to the playoffs Tennessee just wants to go.
00;29;48;04 - 00;29;56;10
Tom Green
But you I say whoever wants it more. Don't you think Vandy wants this more than Tennessee would go into the you know.
00;29;56;13 - 00;30;04;23
Woody Paige
Yeah you're absolutely right. But they're exceptions to the rule I want to win Powerball. There's no such thing I mean I'm going to win.
00;30;04;27 - 00;30;06;18
Tom Green
A little known codicil in the favor.
00;30;06;18 - 00;30;08;25
Ron Zappolo
College.
00;30;08;27 - 00;30;09;26
Tom Green
All right. So I.
00;30;09;26 - 00;30;11;12
Woody Paige
Told you I hate Vanderbilt.
00;30;11;15 - 00;30;22;04
Tom Green
I know that I that's why I wanted to see, you know, what do you said? Tennessee called off the dogs after they scored 31. You know, I was watching Du DeVry University, which I'm proud of.
00;30;22;04 - 00;30;23;19
Woody Paige
I live here and they.
00;30;23;22 - 00;30;49;14
Tom Green
Know basketball and they upset Cassius show on Saturday night. So the other night, my kid, who's a gambler, calls me and says, he says dew is getting 34 points against the second ranked Arizona. I said, are you going to do what he goes, yeah. So I turn the game on and it's like 40 to 5. At one point it's 56 to 28 at the half.
00;30;49;18 - 00;31;06;20
Tom Green
And to your point, Arizona in the second half just said go ahead and score. We'll just trade baskets with you. We just want to get done. They win by ten. They're playing guys out of the band. They won by 30 and he won his bet. So but do you think that. Well I think most people think Vandy Tennessee will be a tighter game.
00;31;06;20 - 00;31;24;02
Tom Green
I like the dog. Calling off isn't in most people's forecast for this game. Not for this game, no I think I like Vandy, I'm pulling for them. Hey Woody why why you're sitting over there. I want to let people know about what's what's on the blackboard, the chalkboard behind you. We should read that out for our listeners. It says my toilet seat was stolen.
00;31;24;04 - 00;31;29;07
Tom Green
I don't know who did it. I got nothing to go on. Oh, God.
00;31;29;10 - 00;31;31;20
Woody Paige
Yeah, yeah. It's okay to be really smart to play.
00;31;31;21 - 00;31;38;20
Tom Green
Yeah, that one's for the higher educated, college system we have. We. Can we hurry up? I have to go to the bathroom.
00;31;38;20 - 00;31;40;20
Ron Zappolo
I just get through this quickly.
00;31;40;23 - 00;31;55;27
Tom Green
Just because of that. That got you the. Yeah. In the mood. Well, hopefully it's one of those weeks where everybody. You don't have to get rich quick, but you want to get rich so you can take your time. Are we done with the games? I think that's it. I think we've let it run the rap good I.
00;31;55;27 - 00;31;56;14
Woody Paige
Can't yeah.
00;31;56;20 - 00;31;58;03
Natasha
Guys, actually.
00;31;58;05 - 00;32;18;26
Woody Paige
I can tell you what story. So, I had a problem getting up to urinate in the middle night. So I go to the your urologist. It you see health. And I said, you got something? I'm really. It's not a joke and said, you get some help. Me? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I'll give you a year's worth. The girl, a great, it's just some miracle drug.
00;32;18;26 - 00;32;47;14
Woody Paige
Yeah, yeah. It's cialis. And I said, but cialis is for something else. He said. But that's a bonus. Well so I go he said come back and see me in a month. So I go back and he says, I said, you're right. I, I maybe get up once during the night, maybe not even once. I said, but I don't mind getting up because I walk past the mirror, go, oh.
00;32;47;17 - 00;32;48;29
Tom Green
God. He's. So what things he said.
00;32;48;29 - 00;32;54;25
Woody Paige
I told you there was a bonus to cialis. Was started as a as with the purpose of.
00;32;55;02 - 00;32;56;27
Tom Green
Being a heart medication. Yeah. Yeah.
00;32;57;04 - 00;33;00;11
Woody Paige
And he said it's got so many other things. And I went
00;33;00;14 - 00;33;03;06
Tom Green
Well that that's going to wrap up our holiday edition.
00;33;03;08 - 00;33;06;09
Natasha
Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving everybody.
00;33;06;12 - 00;33;08;00
Woody Paige
We still on there I didn't.
00;33;08;02 - 00;33;13;06
Tom Green
Know we're we're still rolling. Good luck out there with with all the insight we.
00;33;13;06 - 00;33;15;10
Woody Paige
At helping him because. Yeah.
00;33;15;12 - 00;33;17;06
Tom Green
Tom, wrap this up quickly.
00;33;17;08 - 00;33;18;24
Natasha
Don't listen to this with your fans.
00;33;18;27 - 00;33;23;12
Tom Green
Brian's got to go. We all have to go, but Brian's got to go.
00;33;23;14 - 00;33;24;03
Ron Zappolo
00;33;24;06 - 00;33;38;27
Tom Green
You can always reach us at 80 to 88 at Gorilla Sports dot net. Thanks for joining us. Have a great week. We'll see you next week.
00;33;39;00 - 00;33;40;09
Natasha
Good job everybody.
00;33;40;10 - 00;33;41;18
Tom Green
Oh man.