Tom Green, Ron Zappolo and Woody Paige break down an unprecedented stretch in Denver sports, where all three major teams — the Broncos, Nuggets and Avalanche — look like legitimate championship contenders. The crew debates Denver’s chances at history, digs into the AFC playoff picture, evaluates the Avalanche’s blistering pace, and looks at Nikola Jokić’s continued dominance. They also react to Shedeur Sanders’ first NFL start, the chaos with Pete Carroll’s Raiders, and the Rockies sticking with Warren Schaefer. The show closes with a Thanksgiving edition of “It’s Your Move,” choosing between classic holiday dishes, and a heartfelt moment of gratitude from the hosts.
This week, Tom, Ron and Woody assess all of Denver’s pro teams as the Broncos push for the AFC’s No. 1 seed and the Avalanche continue their dominant run with only one regulation loss. They compare this moment in Denver sports to past eras and discuss whether the Avalanche’s MacKinnon–Makar pairing could ultimately surpass Sakic and Forsberg. The Nuggets remain near the top of the NBA despite injuries, with Nikola Jokić once again playing at an MVP level.
The conversation shifts to league-wide topics, including Shedeur Sanders’ promising Browns debut and how Cleveland handles its quarterback situation, as well as the dysfunction surrounding Pete Carroll’s Raiders and the relentless motor of Maxx Crosby. The group also reacts to the Rockies keeping Warren Schaefer and the franchise’s continued reluctance to embrace outside voices.
For Thanksgiving week, the hosts play a holiday-themed “It’s Your Move,” debating turkey vs. ham, mashed vs. scalloped potatoes, and pumpkin vs. apple pie, pulling directly from the show’s fun closing segment. The episode ends with a sincere moment of thanks as the trio reflects on a challenging year, the value of friendship, and their appreciation for the listeners.
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Tom Green
Happy Thanksgiving. We are going to be taking a hard look at Denver's pro sports teams the Broncos with six games to go. Avalanche. They don't lose. The nuggets are dealing with injuries. But the big story, of course, is the Rockies outbidding the rest of Major League Baseball to keep Warren Schaefer as their manager.
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Ron Zappolo
Hi, everybody. We come to you on this holiday week. Festive looking, as always, Woody Page. Tom Green runs a polo. Look at how we're we're kind of sartorially.
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Tom Green
Perfect. You look like gravy.
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Ron Zappolo
I thought stuffing myself, but I didn't get the blue sweater. Blue shirt memo, so I thought I'd mix it up a little bit. And I think I think we look, presentable. And other than Tom shoes, I think so.
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Woody Paige
Tom Cole is. What a great word that just start off the show with, you know, I don't know where I can go. Delicatessen that,
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Tom Green
We've got a lot to cover. Because the tickets are worth talking about. All the Denver pro sports teams.
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Ron Zappolo
We're spoiled, aren't we?
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Tom Green
Yeah.
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Woody Paige
Somebody said, I was at a celebration of life yesterday, and a guy that I used to work with came up to me. He said, have you ever experienced, a time in Denver sports where there's so much going on? And I said, yeah, yeah.
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Tom Green
Yeah, really just ruined it for him.
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Woody Paige
I said, but this is in our memory. And I said, you know, if if the you have to now throw the Rockies into the deal because they made some serious changes in the front office. And I said at least that it's a story that's worth considering, thinking that maybe things are going to get a bit better with that franchise.
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Woody Paige
But when you get what I was talking thinking about was, I'd like to ask the two of you, and this is not a set up, is which of the three you're going to win the championship. Do all three win the championship? We're talking about the ABS. We're talking about the nuggets and the Broncos. Is it possible I've done the research that this could be the first time in history that in the same year, calendar year is what we're talking about, not seasons, right.
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Woody Paige
That a that a city would have three of the major sports, when championships that's never happened. Detroit had it where it was three over the same season. Right. And they called themselves the City of Champions, which they I think.
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Ron Zappolo
Boston had the Red Sox and Celtics a couple times, but never I don't think.
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Tom Green
Patriots would they round.
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Ron Zappolo
Then. Yeah I but I don't think oh and they've won like I want to say they've won 14 titles since 2000 which is incredible. But I don't think we've ever had a city that has.
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Woody Paige
No in one.
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Tom Green
Simultaneous. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the Tiger slam. Well, it's not it's not likely. No. And it's but but they all have reason to believe they can. Their fan base certainly can believe if you're a Bronco fan you can see yourself getting to a super Bowl. If you're an avalanche fan. I don't know if you're thinking about anything but a Stanley Cup, the way they're playing and the nuggets, well, obviously they got health issues, but they're at or near the very top of the NBA.
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Tom Green
So you know, how are you playing at the end of the season. How are you playing if you're the Browns.
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Woody Paige
So we'll talk about all three of them during the course of this podcast and this YouTube adventure that we're on. But it's a good word adventure.
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Ron Zappolo
We got sartorial and adventure. Very good. It is an adventure.
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Woody Paige
I have, one of those calendars that has the word.
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Ron Zappolo
The word of the day, word of the.
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Woody Paige
Day. I look at them and I can't, and I don't know what that word means. I don't I don't even know how to say that word. So I got rid of that.
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Ron Zappolo
Well, I read some column that's not sports column is the news columnist who I have to go and look up about three words in the column, because I've never heard of those.
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Tom Green
But if you do it online, you just.
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Woody Paige
Put those micro that what's been my goal for 50 years is to at least put truthfully, put one word in there that people have to look up book because that makes them stop. And maybe pause for a moment. Right. It's not a commercial, but it makes them pause.
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Ron Zappolo
But they're all column. I can always read your column, and I didn't have to go to the sources, but I read a sports columns now where some guys, it seems to me, are just trying to let you know how great their video.
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Tom Green
It is precipitous.
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Woody Paige
I we have a.
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Tom Green
I don't know what the heck.
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Woody Paige
We have the board, we have the black board today. But one of my favorite black boards that I came up with is what is another word for the source?
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Tom Green
I think, by the way, what is another? What is? Let's let's mention the blackboard for our listeners, woodies blackboard today saying there is no reason to question the intentions of a chicken going across the street.
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Woody Paige
Why do people say let him? Why did the chicken cross road? Because he needed to get on the other side. Why? Why I get off his back there.
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Ron Zappolo
Let me throw out a declarative statement. Can you guys tell me if it's true or false? Nobody in the country believes in either the New England Patriots or the Denver Broncos. True, the Patriots, because everybody thinks they have a soft schedule and the Broncos because of the way they win these games. Is that true?
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Tom Green
It's true that I believe how the nation sees these two teams. And I also think the nation has reason to believe both of those, though those are both valid issues you could have with the Patriots who've played. It seems like they're always playing so well, some dregs of the NFL.
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Woody Paige
And I mean, you have the New England background, particularly Boston love, but that is the easiest schedule left I've ever seen. I mean they play to to New York teams. Not the good New York team not Buffalo but they they have a.
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Tom Green
And they will see them again I think. Yeah.
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Woody Paige
And and the Broncos have the ninth easiest schedule. But I think it's pretty pretty hard down and people still asking me every day you know what do you think the record is going to be if they can get to 14? That's only happened once, 1998. If they can get to 13, I think that's happened 5 or 6.
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Ron Zappolo
Few times. Yeah.
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Woody Paige
Five, 5 or 6 times. But I think, those numbers are possible for Denver Broncos. But they've got to get through. I mean, when you started the season, this commander's game, man looked like a.
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Ron Zappolo
Good anymore.
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Woody Paige
Dead solid loss. But now without.
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Ron Zappolo
But here's what I fear with the Broncos. And you Pooh poohed me a few weeks ago when I brought this up. I think the number one seed.
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Woody Paige
Know this particular year you need to get a sort of Pooh.
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Ron Zappolo
Pooh,
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Woody Paige
Look up good.
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Tom Green
But the way we were doing so.
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Ron Zappolo
Well, yeah, we were. The Broncos need to get the for the top seed for a lot of reasons, but but to get the week off and make everybody else play. Because if you get that second seed and you go 13 and four and you get that second seed, you can see it coming. You were looking at a first round playoff game of the Buffalo City.
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Ron Zappolo
Buffalo all the more Kansas City. And that's almost I won't say unfair, but it's very unlucky to have had a phenomenal season. And you got to host one of those teams that says, yeah, we'll come to Denver.
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Woody Paige
I wrote for last Sunday. I think there's a very good chance that the AFC Championship game is between the Patriots and the Broncos. And when was the last time that happened? 2015. Yeah. And Peyton Manning beating Tom Brady. That was.
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Tom Green
Here. Yeah. And this one.
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Woody Paige
So it's important. Yeah. And that's it's important that it be here. And it's important that you have the the the home field advantage throughout because of altitude and attitude.
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Ron Zappolo
But if we believe what the nation thinks the odds are one of those teams will get knocked off before they get there.
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Tom Green
The post JK Dobbins part of this schedule is going to be what the everyone's going to closely examine, because it adds pressure to the man who's the linchpin of everything that happens with that Broncos offense. Bananas. But what he makes a good point though.
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Ron Zappolo
We thought the Washington game was going to be with Daniels really tough. I'm not saying it's not going to be tough, but rather go against Mariota. I thought about two months ago green Bay was going to be whoa. Are they going to be tough. Yeah. They look like they're not hitting on all cylinders. You know Jacksonville is Jacksonville.
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Woody Paige
Yes that might I that might be the toughest game. Green Bay no no Jack Jacksonville. Yeah. Could be Jacksonville.
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Ron Zappolo
They'll be in the playoff hunt.
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Woody Paige
And you hope if you're a Broncos fan that that last game of the season means nothing. Yeah that you've already established that you're the number one seed which is possible.
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Tom Green
Were you locked in wherever you are even if you're not one. And just like.
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Woody Paige
That could even happen with the game in Kansas City for the Broncos, that it doesn't have the same influence. And the Chiefs might be on the cusp of whether there's still a possibility.
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Ron Zappolo
Let's see what happens.
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Tom Green
Did they scare you? Because everyone said they wanted Kansas City to beat Indy? Then you watch KC and you go, oh, that's the KC team nobody wants to see in December. Nobody wants to see in January.
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Ron Zappolo
That's the thing.
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Woody Paige
About see if I'm if I'm the Broncos, I go I love to play them now. They're not the team that.
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Tom Green
They're not.
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Woody Paige
Them. You know they they're from.
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Ron Zappolo
You're right.
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Woody Paige
But then you've been you've been in Denver forever and you go you'd watch teams that would go into games, whether it be the Broncos or the nuggets or whatever. And they go, they have a chance to win. Well, they probably can't beat these guys. I genuinely believe that. The Broncos think they'd love to play the can't see okay.
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Woody Paige
I think they got them figured out defensively.
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Ron Zappolo
They would. However, it's still Patrick Mahomes. I would rather go against Trevor Lawrence, but Justin Herbert I don't want to have my season ride on one game against the best quarterback in the world, because he is still capable of like he did the other day. Yeah, in the fourth quarter, in the overtime. And it got to a point where you said watching that game, oh, he's.
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Tom Green
Theoretically you'll be playing him, you know, next time, whether that's the regular season or if that does happen in the postseason with Pats for ten. And that's that's a big difference from when they played him this time. And they they were able to manage that that offense as well as we'd seen. So that was good. You know you talk about teams who've got it going on right now and nobody's got it going on like the avalanche.
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Tom Green
Nope. The avalanche just win every night. They have those overtime losses and then just one regulation loss. And I.
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Ron Zappolo
Asked you this before we started, how many regulation losses are the Avs going to have this.
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Tom Green
Year? They have one through.
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Ron Zappolo
The they have one for the first quarter and they're good.
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Woody Paige
You were talking about how how many victories could they have at the end of the season. The the pace of their own was that would be 48.
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Tom Green
You know they yeah, they ended up with with 4 or 5 losses. I mean they're not going to you can't they'll have the space.
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Ron Zappolo
They'll have some two week period where they that.
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Tom Green
Well they've been playing terrifically in front of their goalies. But they've gone into they now exist in a goalie controversy. That's not a controversy, not the other goal when.
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Ron Zappolo
They're pitching shutouts.
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Tom Green
Right. Either. Guy Wedgewood has taken over the top job. But Blackwood's one A and they they're playing with an efficiency in front of those guys defensively. And when you you know, I don't know if it comes through on television when you go to the game they're just faster.
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Ron Zappolo
Than other teams. That is better.
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Woody Paige
So you guys been around for over two. And that's why, you know, people say why don't you call yourself the three old farts? But I would say this to you, when was the last time that we had an Eminem connection in Denver, like McKinnon and Mikah? Yeah.
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Tom Green
Morton and Moses and Moses. Yeah. Go back.
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Ron Zappolo
That's what most people don't know.
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Woody Paige
I know, that's why I said it's only.
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Tom Green
It's only 45 years ago.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
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Woody Paige
That's why I set it up by saying yeah, we're we're old. But I think that this is as close.
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Woody Paige
I'm going to ask you a tough question. Yeah. This is as close as you can get to Sakic and Forsberg. Could they possibly end up being better than Sakic?
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Ron Zappolo
And no, for one, who.
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Woody Paige
We thought that was the greatest. Yeah, we called him. I remember call him, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance that they were on the cover of, Sports Illustrated dressed up as well.
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Ron Zappolo
You're leaving out one thing. You said it perfectly. Sakic and Forsberg. What you left out was war. Yeah, and they don't have the war. Part of that equation.
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Tom Green
Well, they have this this year. They have so far through 2010.
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Ron Zappolo
The regular season. They do. But you don't trust either of those guys in the playoffs like you would.
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Tom Green
Until.
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Ron Zappolo
Patrick Wall, who was for my money, in the years that I covered sports, the most confident athlete I was ever around.
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Woody Paige
And then he would go out, give up seven goals.
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Ron Zappolo
Well, that's what got him here. Giving up nine.
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Woody Paige
Well, but he also in a playoff game at the.
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Tom Green
End against Detroit.
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Ron Zappolo
But I also remember him saying hey, if Joey and Peter can score two that'll be enough.
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Woody Paige
That is absolutely right. I would like to disagree with you, but that's absolutely right. Even though the Wood brothers, I mean, yeah, that if you're old and live in Colorado, you'd remember the Wood brothers.
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Tom Green
Were housing built houses.
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Woody Paige
So it's all I'm not going anywhere with that. But, I just think that you're right. I mean, combined, even though one, one goal games, shutouts, I mean, they're matching what.
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Ron Zappolo
The MacKinnon in the car. I mean, we were so spoiled with Sakic and Forsberg, but MacKinnon and MacArthur.
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Tom Green
They're doing it right in front of us right now. If you're young and you didn't get to see and Forsberg enjoy this because this is this is special.
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Woody Paige
But we had the Mount Rushmore and the Mount Rushmore has always been I would say Todd Elton John, Elway. It was in hockey psychic psychic my Forsberg.
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Tom Green
Well now Jokic would be on.
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Ron Zappolo
There and yo.
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Woody Paige
Yeah. Yo where you just go through.
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Ron Zappolo
With them anymore.
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Woody Paige
No question is he had won the championships. But that he may end up being the greatest athlete.
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Tom Green
He's only got Sakic left to pass and franchise points he passed. Oh we talked to Kenny MacKinnon. Yeah.
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Ron Zappolo
You know I keep reading nationally and watching nationally how everybody kind of generally says that Connor McDavid.
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Tom Green
Yeah, yeah. Best player best player.
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Ron Zappolo
But yeah. And every time I see that I go watch MacKinnon and I go, no no, no, no, no, he's faster than everybody else. He's got the most goals, the most points.
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Woody Paige
But he's tough.
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Ron Zappolo
You know what else I like about him? I think he could walk into any bar in Denver. I'm not sure people would recognize him.
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Tom Green
Yeah. Now maybe you know, but yeah, you're a little bit less than.
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Ron Zappolo
But he's kind of I love it. He's faceless. He's not. I don't see him on commercials. He doesn't say anything. He's like.
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Tom Green
Sack. Do you know when he was Joe?
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Ron Zappolo
Remember that? When he's the same way when he.
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Tom Green
Blooms on TV, he does Canadian commercials with Sidney Crosby for hockey equipment and Tim Hortons and stuff, all.
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Ron Zappolo
That stuff.
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Tom Green
But he has fun doing it. Yeah, yeah.
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Woody Paige
I see it. I thought you were going to go where you could go was McKinnon can walk into any bar and say, I'm the toughest guy.
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Ron Zappolo
You can do that too, because I.
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Woody Paige
I knew very well all time, wrestler named Sputnik Monroe. And he was in the South, but he had a great national reputation. And I said, you know, do people recognize you? And he said, no, but here's what I do. This is what McKinnon needs to do. He said, I walk into bar and I stand up and I go, I'm the meanest, baddest mother you.
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Ron Zappolo
Know.
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Woody Paige
In this bar, he said. I sit down and nobody bothers, but they know who I am and they go in the rule. And he said, but I walk in and I'm in Oklahoma and I walk in. And he said, A Native American comes over to me and said, no, you're not. He throws me through the glass window and I'm out on the sidewalk.
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Woody Paige
I come back in the bar and I say, I'm the second. Yes. So McKinnon, I think you you guys are absolutely right. Nobody knows. He could walk in right now, and people in this sports studio would go, pardon me like that, you know?
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Tom Green
Hey, you mentioned Patrick. Why? And we should talk about Patrick. The former have goalie coach in town. Yeah. And he had that that, skirmish with Mico, the former AV winger. Well, it wasn't.
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Ron Zappolo
Actually him having this.
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Tom Green
Well, he was the one who.
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Ron Zappolo
Yeah, he.
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Tom Green
Yeah, he flipped out behind the bench. Now, Mikko had another hit after that that the league is looking at. And Mikko didn't play a very physical game. He was big and strong, played physical to be offensive, to get the puck to fight for goals. But now he's getting a little bit of a reputation. And Patrick, we already knew, had a reputation for wanting to scream and yell and fight.
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Ron Zappolo
Yes. But as Claude Lemieux said, Patrick's a lover, not a fighter. He saw him fight a few times.
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Woody Paige
What's happened with the avalanche? Talking about Mikko? Because the people that move, that's the end of the world. They didn't championship last year because they got rid of their.
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Tom Green
Well, then he then he went out and do your.
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Woody Paige
Best to eliminate. Yeah sure. But the, the that trade resulted in what is a guy who is the third best player that may be stronger than Mikko in terms of the season, although they're both having great seasons, but I think that you've got to have it's like in pro basketball, everybody always talked about if you could put together three players, yeah.
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Woody Paige
Yep, you can win. That's what the LeBron was always trying to create three years in Miami. He did that and they did win one championship there. But I just think they have the best chance of the three to win I think I think the to win a championship because they're still pissed about last year that a lot of stuff happened in the last couple of years with one of their players who.
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Tom Green
I think they have the best chance to. I think the nuggets, I think getting out of the West is going to be a war.
00;18;41;23 - 00;19;06;07
Ron Zappolo
I think they have by far the best chance. Yeah, I mean, it's not even close. But I will say this for the nuggets and I'm a retired guy who has NBA League pass. So I watch a million NBA games because I love the sport. In my mind, as we sit here today, the nuggets are clearly the second best team in the entire NBA and the best team, which is clearly the champions.
00;19;06;12 - 00;19;16;07
Ron Zappolo
The nuggets took him to seven games last year in the playoffs. The nuggets are significantly better this year than they were last year.
00;19;16;08 - 00;19;19;00
Woody Paige
You got to get to you got to get your two starters back.
00;19;19;00 - 00;19;24;22
Ron Zappolo
But they're going to get them back. I mean, I'm presuming they get healthy. They're going to if you're going to get hurt, get hurt in November Aaron.
00;19;24;22 - 00;19;26;24
Woody Paige
Gordon been healthy over the last.
00;19;26;29 - 00;19;28;06
Ron Zappolo
That's what that's that's why.
00;19;28;06 - 00;19;30;24
Woody Paige
They didn't win the seventh game against Oakland.
00;19;30;24 - 00;19;51;12
Ron Zappolo
That's why it's good to let those guys get healthy. And the other reason why I think the nuggets have better than a puncher's chance by signing Valanciunas. Jokic will not have to play 39 minutes a game for the entire parade of games, and I think we'll see what that means come, May and June.
00;19;51;14 - 00;20;11;22
Tom Green
Sure. By the way, we do have to address him. I mean, because I worry that some weeks you don't even talk about Nikola Jokic and you just you just kind of act like, oh, that's okay. And then you look up and every single night and when you talk about the superstars the greatest to ever play, those are the guys who never had I mean they had two off nights a year.
00;20;11;22 - 00;20;18;16
Tom Green
They always showed up and they always played and they always produced. And he is a machine.
00;20;18;16 - 00;20;27;23
Ron Zappolo
Let me put it in passes. Okay. The guy we had here last week is the greatest athlete Denver has ever had.
00;20;27;26 - 00;20;29;04
Tom Green
Oh, you're referring to John Elway.
00;20;29;04 - 00;20;42;18
Ron Zappolo
I'm referring to Nikola Jokic. I'm not trying to be blasphemous here. Another good word. If he continues on this streak I'm going to argue that Jokic could wear the crown.
00;20;42;21 - 00;20;54;23
Woody Paige
Well I think I said it John Elway was the greatest athlete playing quarterback playing quarterback choosing to play because he talked about pitching. He in high school.
00;20;55;00 - 00;20;57;01
Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
00;20;57;03 - 00;21;23;14
Woody Paige
Jokic reminds me more of Peyton Manning. The Peyton Manning was the best non athlete. Yeah that ever played in Denver. And people are going to say what are you talking about. His mind over matter if you will did matter. He was the best thinking quarterback ever I think Jokic doesn't get credit for being the best thinker. Basketball.
00;21;23;20 - 00;21;26;21
Tom Green
Well he clearly sees the game differently than anybody else.
00;21;26;23 - 00;21;38;10
Woody Paige
And and think about last night when he hits at the end of the third quarter hits a shot from half 45ft. He didn't even celebrate it. No. He walked away and got ready.
00;21;38;10 - 00;21;40;11
Tom Green
That's why I know. And I expected to make it so.
00;21;40;11 - 00;21;59;04
Ron Zappolo
I know why else I like Jokic just like Elway and some of the other great performers. I don't use athletes because I'm talking about Jokic in his accomplishments. What he has done when they got when they lost the other night to Sacramento. I always leave it to your coach to say the right thing. And I think he said we're 12 and four.
00;21;59;05 - 00;22;16;29
Ron Zappolo
We're not very good. And that's what you want. Yep. From the guy. And he is the guy. There is not a single player in the NBA that the nuggets would even think about moving this guy. Four that's all you need to know.
00;22;17;02 - 00;22;40;28
Woody Paige
One other point I would like to make, I've always found I went to Cuba three times and, met Castro once. He would never even though he spoke English, he would never speak in English. He did it once at the UN because you're not as strong in your second language. Bear with me. When I speak Spanish. Right.
00;22;40;29 - 00;22;42;09
Tom Green
I'm halting.
00;22;42;16 - 00;23;07;18
Woody Paige
Five years old. Jokic is the greatest athlete I've ever been around who is just as good, if not better, in his second language in terms of being funny and in terms of what you talked about that how many players are going to say you're 12 and three, you lost tonight? We're not any good. Good. And I'm paraphrasing, but he said we're not very good.
00;23;07;19 - 00;23;13;17
Tom Green
It was a it was a terrific statement you made. I'll throw Landeskog in there. As far as a second language guys I mean he's.
00;23;13;17 - 00;23;27;23
Ron Zappolo
Can we talk about second language for a minute. Because I read this all the time. And it especially happens in baseball. I go on these websites and I see people to your point, critical of big stars who won't speak in English.
00;23;27;24 - 00;23;29;19
Woody Paige
Oh, Ohtani.
00;23;29;21 - 00;23;49;06
Ron Zappolo
There's many of them, whether you're Japanese, Latin, whatever. And it's so unfair for white America to assume that these guys, because they're dealing with tons of members of the media every day, should actually they've assimilated enough into this country. Now we require them to speak English.
00;23;49;08 - 00;24;01;04
Woody Paige
Oh, but you don't understand. And I'm a bit older and more mature than you are. That what we expect in life is if you come to our country, speak English, if we go to your country, speak.
00;24;01;06 - 00;24;04;15
Ron Zappolo
Okay, there you go. Thank you for making my point.
00;24;04;17 - 00;24;21;11
Tom Green
It's a great story though, because when you would used to hear of of the baseball players who came over from Latin countries, the only English they learned, they'd sit around in the hotel to watch game shows, cartoons, soap opera and nobody. And that the teams have theoretically gotten much better at trying to help them and teach.
00;24;21;13 - 00;24;44;29
Ron Zappolo
And they have. And they've learned English. But when you're doing a structured interview, yeah, I can only imagine if we tried to do this in a second language. I want to speak in a shorter language, because I want to make sure that my comments are accurate, not misconstrued. But I know they speak English because I've seen it a million times when they've got the interpreter in there.
00;24;44;29 - 00;24;51;28
Ron Zappolo
After the game, the reporter asks the question. The guy answers in Spanish. He understands the question.
00;24;51;28 - 00;24;52;27
Tom Green
He already got it. Yeah.
00;24;52;28 - 00;24;56;12
Ron Zappolo
He doesn't need the interpreter. He's got it. Yeah, and I see it all the time.
00;24;56;13 - 00;25;15;23
Woody Paige
My my regret in life is that I didn't learn more languages. You know, to deal with athletes, that it was all me. And I'll give you an example. Another example I covered 1415 Olympics. And there's a guy out of Italy who's had the nickname the Great Tomba.
00;25;15;28 - 00;25;16;10
Tom Green
00;25;16;11 - 00;25;18;05
Ron Zappolo
Oh that the Alberto this guy.
00;25;18;05 - 00;25;45;05
Woody Paige
Yeah, yeah. And so he wins the first Olympics and he wins three medals or whatever. So he comes to the second Olympics and he's kind of older and everything and he's really funny. But it has to be through a interpreter. So he wins. His first race in the Olympics. And so we interview him and he's got an interpreter and they said, well, what are you going to do tonight?
00;25;45;05 - 00;26;03;02
Woody Paige
And he said, well, I'm going to have I'm going to be with six women and we're going to stay up to for him, and we're going to drink our and, and okay. So three days later he wins second race. And so the first question, of course, is, well, you know, after you won your first race, there was six women up to 4 a.m. and you're going to drink.
00;26;03;02 - 00;26;19;00
Woody Paige
All right. What are you doing? Well, the interpreter said I need to get my rest. I got a third. I got a third race, and I want to make sure I'm ready. And I want to win the third gold medal. And that's, I'm going to go go home and go to sleep tonight and practice some day while.
00;26;19;03 - 00;26;46;07
Woody Paige
And a lady stands up who's a Detroit sportswriter who can speak Italian perfectly. And she says, why don't you interpret exactly what he said? And so we all said, what did he say? He said, you know, last race, six women, 4 a.m., drinking all night this one, because it's the second one for women to 6 a.m. and stop drinking at 2 a.m. in the morning.
00;26;46;10 - 00;26;51;24
Woody Paige
And it was exactly different from I'm drinking milk tonight and I'm going to go to bed early, but so so that's that.
00;26;51;24 - 00;27;18;17
Ron Zappolo
Did you appreciate the fact that, like Andras Galarraga. Yeah. Or Vinnie Castillo would speak English? I thought it was great and they were comfortable enough doing it, but I wouldn't. But to Woody's point, what I do remember covering the 98 All-Star game here in Denver. I interviewed Joe Torrey, Walt Weiss, and then they brought over Sammy Sosa, who basically spoke the King's English.
00;27;18;23 - 00;27;21;10
Ron Zappolo
And then a few years later on Capitol Hill, no speak.
00;27;21;13 - 00;27;23;02
Tom Green
Yeah. Okay.
00;27;23;04 - 00;27;23;24
Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
00;27;23;27 - 00;27;39;20
Tom Green
That's eluded me. It's got away. Hey, speaking of baseball, the Rockies have decided that Warren Schaefer is the man for the job. Paul Depodesta Battista, his first move, of note for for baseball fans is to, to keep Warren Schaefer.
00;27;39;23 - 00;27;41;05
Ron Zappolo
That excites the fan base.
00;27;41;05 - 00;27;51;27
Tom Green
I can't imagine anyone being excited about it. I, you know, and maybe, you know, they may have really looked into it, but it seems like it's it's always the easiest and simplest.
00;27;51;27 - 00;27;56;05
Ron Zappolo
And you got it. You know, whatever makes the not controversial.
00;27;56;08 - 00;28;13;16
Woody Paige
They're not going to do anything that's exciting. No, they're not going to suddenly sign a player and you go, we got kind of excited when I say we, we in Colorado where, ooh, Kris Bryant. But Kris Bryant was on the downhill when I was with San Francisco before he got here. And even the Cubs got rid of him.
00;28;13;22 - 00;28;26;19
Woody Paige
So that excitement if if they existed, only lasted like about three weeks till he was hurt for the first time. So I don't see them going out and getting a pitcher. And you go, oh, that's.
00;28;26;24 - 00;28;36;10
Tom Green
Whenever they stay the same. That's a negative story for them. There's no reason for them to do anything the same than what they've done for the last few years.
00;28;36;10 - 00;28;41;05
Woody Paige
I would have done Mattingly I think there are 3 or 4 managers.
00;28;41;05 - 00;28;43;29
Tom Green
That would Don Mattingly have taken their call.
00;28;44;01 - 00;28;44;23
Ron Zappolo
He would have taken.
00;28;44;24 - 00;29;01;23
Woody Paige
I'm going to tell you what. Yeah. I think he you I had a good relationship with him when I worked in New York. And, I liked him. He would talk when it was a Coors Field with the Yankees a few times they played, and he liked Colorado for some. But didn't he.
00;29;01;23 - 00;29;16;20
Tom Green
Beat his head against the wall? He had the Marlins when the Marlins were down. He tried to manage a bad team once before. And I think maybe as much as he loves the game and would probably love to manage, I think he also people in the game know the reality. Like if you took.
00;29;16;22 - 00;29;39;23
Woody Paige
Bob Melvin, given you, segment. So here, a year ago, more than a year ago, I said that, Schaefer should be promoted. He had come up from Albuquerque, where he managed, and he had gone through the the organization, like many of these players. And he'd coached him. And I said, black has, you know, been whatever he is.
00;29;39;25 - 00;30;02;20
Woody Paige
Had two teams that were in the playoffs his first two years here. Get rid of black. Forgive me and and promote this guy that grew up with these players. And he knows them for what their fallacies are in the, in a minor leagues. And of course, delusional Dick paid no attention to me. And then a year later, I wanted to call him that and say, I told you this a year ago, and, you know, there are a.
00;30;02;20 - 00;30;10;06
Ron Zappolo
Lot of people if you really if you think tank this, which I'm sure the Rockies do, there were be all kinds of you think.
00;30;10;06 - 00;30;11;27
Woody Paige
The Rockies think tank.
00;30;11;29 - 00;30;14;02
Tom Green
Sarcastic. Okay.
00;30;14;05 - 00;30;46;14
Ron Zappolo
Think tank drunk tank. Right. That's bad. But I can think of ten people off the top of my head that would interest people. Nothing against Warren Schaefer, I don't know. I'm sure he's a good guy. You know Joe Girardi, would you call him and at least have a conversation with them? He's current. I mean, there's just things you can do if you're thinking just slightly outside the box, that might invigorate your fans a little more than, like you say, when you do something that doesn't even move the needle.
00;30;46;14 - 00;30;47;08
Ron Zappolo
No, okay.
00;30;47;08 - 00;30;49;27
Tom Green
I don't I don't think there's a needle even right there.
00;30;49;27 - 00;31;02;03
Woody Paige
But what? I'll give you one. He he managed to the Phillies. He managed the, Giants and he got fired Catholic and he played for the smart guy.
00;31;02;05 - 00;31;03;00
Ron Zappolo
Very smart.
00;31;03;00 - 00;31;19;06
Woody Paige
Talking about out of the box in regard to how he believes in you would not have. I mean, yes, I think those of us in the media could have roused the fan base. I think that's one of our roles. Yeah. I don't know whether you agree with that, but I think we as.
00;31;19;06 - 00;31;22;19
Ron Zappolo
A retired member of the media, I would say yes, that's your role.
00;31;22;19 - 00;31;28;24
Woody Paige
That. Well, our role has been over period. Yeah. From the 70s, 70s, 80.
00;31;28;24 - 00;31;30;16
Ron Zappolo
Well our role now is just to survive.
00;31;30;17 - 00;31;31;23
Tom Green
But if you're young, if you're the.
00;31;31;23 - 00;31;33;07
Woody Paige
Next now it's.
00;31;33;09 - 00;31;35;05
Ron Zappolo
The day you wake up in.
00;31;35;05 - 00;31;35;21
Woody Paige
The morning.
00;31;35;26 - 00;31;50;20
Tom Green
That's what you're the next like. Great. You're the next great going to be manager. And you're going to want to manage. It's hard to look down your 20 year career ahead and think, I'm going to start with a couple hundred loss seasons in Colorado. I mean like because the.
00;31;50;22 - 00;31;53;24
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, but you know, there's only so many of these jobs.
00;31;53;24 - 00;31;54;23
Tom Green
Yeah I know and.
00;31;54;23 - 00;32;13;05
Ron Zappolo
If people want to manage it's a lot. It's much more it brings more, personal success managing than it does being a bench coach. Sure. And I think a lot of people who you might think and there may be people that say, I want nothing to do, I.
00;32;13;05 - 00;32;13;16
Tom Green
Wait for the.
00;32;13;16 - 00;32;16;10
Ron Zappolo
Next. I'll wait for the next one. You'll be waiting forever.
00;32;16;10 - 00;32;16;24
Tom Green
You never know.
00;32;16;24 - 00;32;33;02
Ron Zappolo
So I just think there are a lot of people and these teams are thinking outside the box. Look who the Giants hired. The baseball coach of Tennessee. Tennessee? I mean, the Rock. I mean, come on, it's just something. Anything just to titillate us. How's that?
00;32;33;04 - 00;32;34;22
Woody Paige
Got you using words today?
00;32;34;22 - 00;32;35;06
Ron Zappolo
Well, I'm.
00;32;35;06 - 00;32;38;13
Woody Paige
Just Natasha, jump in here with some good words. Every once in a while.
00;32;38;13 - 00;32;40;18
Tom Green
You have some vocabulary to share.
00;32;40;20 - 00;32;57;24
Woody Paige
You are a sports fan. What do you think is the. Do you think it's more important that the Rockies kind of keep the direction they're going with, with Schaefer, or that they go out and get somebody that would turn people on to baseball for, well, of.
00;32;57;24 - 00;33;14;26
Natasha
Course I'm with you. The ideal would be to go out and get someone else but to this grander point of like, nobody's beating down the door. So if you were to really go in hard and do your research and find someone and track people down and do like a genuine kind of scouting, like you said, thinking out of the box.
00;33;14;26 - 00;33;25;03
Natasha
But as far as just any of these big name people, that would get people really excited because you're going to have I mean, we just got the football guy who hasn't been a part of baseball for so long.
00;33;25;04 - 00;33;25;27
Tom Green
He Podesta.
00;33;25;27 - 00;33;28;13
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's just so many people they could be.
00;33;28;19 - 00;33;31;08
Natasha
And that didn't excite anybody that that was thinking about it.
00;33;31;08 - 00;33;43;12
Tom Green
That I don't think they could hire a manager from. I don't know if they could hire a manager from outside without having hired a general manager first, though, because that would theoretically need to be someone the general manager wanted.
00;33;43;15 - 00;33;44;12
Woody Paige
To work together.
00;33;44;13 - 00;33;46;04
Natasha
To get like a foundational issue.
00;33;46;05 - 00;34;09;12
Woody Paige
Got you interviewed here recently, and he said the same feeling you did. I saw his tweet about, you know, there's only 30 jobs, right? I look at it a different way. I remember a guy saying I'd rather be a street cleaner in Philadelphia than the mayor of Chicago. And I thought, that's true. I would rather you guys worked in Denver.
00;34;09;14 - 00;34;30;24
Woody Paige
You could have been network guys for 15, 20 years. You could have been doing the ABC Nightly News. I mean, I went to New York one time. I'd rather be a street cleaner in Denver than the mayor of New York City. That's after my three years in New York. I went, I like I like being in in Denver, Colorado, the general.
00;34;30;29 - 00;34;31;14
Ron Zappolo
What do you think?
00;34;31;14 - 00;34;48;08
Woody Paige
So the point I'm making is Don Mattingly gave me an I don't want to, I did Miami, I don't want to have to do Denver two. But this the Bob Melvin said, man, I'd take it a back step at least, even though I didn't do it with the with the Giants. I don't want to deal with it.
00;34;48;08 - 00;35;15;11
Woody Paige
So there people it because Jim Tracy Jim Tracy was the manager of the Rockies. He hated he hated Dick Monfort. I became friends with him. He was my neighbor in in an area. It was George Karl. And this is good Jim, not George Carlin. Jim Tracy, come to me. I'm not part of that that trial for. But Tracy said I'd rather not manage that.
00;35;15;14 - 00;35;34;12
Woody Paige
And so he he walked away, but, quit because he didn't want it. He's not going back to it because he said, I don't want to. I mean, I know him well enough. He said, I don't want one of those shitty positions. If I'm coming back, it's going to be manager of because he was the manager of the Dodgers before he came here.
00;35;34;12 - 00;35;41;14
Woody Paige
He said, you know, I'm only going to take a good job that. So Ron, despite what you say, there are a lot of in what.
00;35;41;17 - 00;35;56;27
Ron Zappolo
Listen, I get that there are people that would say I don't want to manage the Rockies, but I got to believe, okay, that there's another sizable group of people who would love to be a manager. And even though it's the Rockies, they might come in with some different ideas.
00;35;56;27 - 00;35;58;12
Woody Paige
Well, that's why I brought up Kepler.
00;35;58;15 - 00;36;18;28
Tom Green
What does this change? That's fine. I don't think if you look at the Rockies, you know, this next two years are going to be trying to recuperate from from whatever this has been. The most important hire they'll make is the general manager, the person who's going to dictate the path that this the roster is going to start to take, that the farm system is going to take.
00;36;19;01 - 00;36;28;23
Tom Green
That's the real job here. And I don't know if they did by by extending Warren Schaefer taking interim office tag, if they affected their general manager.
00;36;28;23 - 00;36;39;13
Ron Zappolo
You know, what they did by that time, they continued down the track that they have been on for over 30 years. They they are not aggressive. They have not had many.
00;36;39;18 - 00;36;40;18
Tom Green
Rate of change.
00;36;40;21 - 00;37;10;02
Ron Zappolo
They have not had a ton of, managers. They are afraid of change. And when they change, they change in-house. They don't go outside, they in. And rehiring this person is a continuation of what they have always done and what they are comfortable with. And recent history tells us that will not work. And secondly, we spend more time talking about the Rockies on this little podcast than they deserve, because they haven't.
00;37;10;05 - 00;37;12;10
Woody Paige
We've already talked about three minutes about.
00;37;12;13 - 00;37;13;15
Ron Zappolo
What they haven't done.
00;37;13;15 - 00;37;14;14
Tom Green
And that's what it is.
00;37;14;16 - 00;37;15;01
Woody Paige
Is that too.
00;37;15;01 - 00;37;15;29
Tom Green
Much? But the team.
00;37;16;01 - 00;37;21;29
Ron Zappolo
Have not done enough to earn that kind of interest.
00;37;21;29 - 00;37;26;01
Tom Green
But do you agree the GM is the hire? I mean, that's that's the job. Yes.
00;37;26;03 - 00;37;42;18
Woody Paige
Because of two things I would say. I've heard that, the new president of baseball operations. Yeah, that he is going to bring Moneyball to Denver. No, it's not Moneyball was a brief.
00;37;42;18 - 00;37;43;01
Tom Green
Came and.
00;37;43;01 - 00;37;59;03
Woody Paige
Went experiment. That kind of work. They never won a World Series. They never were in a World Series. But it it changed the old school scout kind of process, even though the Rockies carried it into last year. You know.
00;37;59;05 - 00;38;06;09
Ron Zappolo
I hired an analytic manager, and they have the smallest analytics department in Major League Baseball.
00;38;06;12 - 00;38;29;23
Woody Paige
Yeah. So they were still changing and they had scouts everywhere. Their high school coaches that are 78 years old, like us showed up and showed up in games. But you are right, because Podesta is going to give us, a ten year old look at what baseball is. He's going to go back to what he was doing, and he's even said, you know, it's changed.
00;38;30;00 - 00;38;46;01
Woody Paige
But that that key general manager is going to be somebody that was really good at a general manager. That's why they had Levine, who played on a soccer team or some baseball team with with Podesta when they were, when they were kids in Virginia.
00;38;46;01 - 00;38;46;22
Ron Zappolo
Podesta.
00;38;46;29 - 00;38;48;14
Tom Green
Podesta, I don't care.
00;38;48;16 - 00;38;49;26
Ron Zappolo
Hey, listen, you know what.
00;38;49;28 - 00;38;51;24
Woody Paige
I call a monster? I call him depot.
00;38;51;25 - 00;38;56;16
Ron Zappolo
He did such a good job in Cleveland with the Browns. I'm really glad we have.
00;38;56;19 - 00;39;01;09
Tom Green
A look while we wrap up. Let's talk about the Browns because you got there was shadow.
00;39;01;14 - 00;39;02;15
Woody Paige
That's right. Yeah.
00;39;02;18 - 00;39;04;14
Ron Zappolo
How about that for a Segway?
00;39;04;14 - 00;39;21;02
Tom Green
Yeah I mean you just got me there. So let's go with shadow for a minute. Obviously wherever Scheider goes, it seems like there are people leaping to one side or the other. And what he did, I think the most notable part of that, that game, actually watching shoot or play, wasn't even Scheider was watching the Raiders.
00;39;21;02 - 00;39;23;28
Tom Green
That is amazing. What a mess that is, right?
00;39;23;29 - 00;39;36;09
Ron Zappolo
Okay, if you're the Raiders, if you're Tom Brady they're already paying Jon Gruden and Josh McDaniels not to coach them. What do you do with Pete Carroll because they hired Pete to win.
00;39;36;09 - 00;39;39;02
Tom Green
You just handed the $6 million OC his pink slip.
00;39;39;02 - 00;39;44;28
Ron Zappolo
Yes. So do you just stick with Pete Carroll and Geno Smith and go wow.
00;39;45;00 - 00;39;54;09
Woody Paige
I saw Al Davis his son Mark a couple of weeks ago and I went, man, that guy looks I look bad.
00;39;54;09 - 00;39;56;26
Ron Zappolo
It's a bad 79. It's a bad haircut.
00;39;56;29 - 00;40;21;07
Woody Paige
The haircut has now been added to the bonus by what he looks like beneath that haircut. And I thought al would be very proud of this. He never was. Do you know this? The fact al would not let his son in the practice facility the whole time. His only topic, you know, you you bring your son to the practice exactly.
00;40;21;07 - 00;40;23;07
Woody Paige
He didn't want his son to have anything to do with this is.
00;40;23;07 - 00;40;23;26
Ron Zappolo
Good about.
00;40;23;29 - 00;40;24;26
Woody Paige
But,
00;40;24;29 - 00;40;38;03
Tom Green
Well, we'll get there, but because I want to say, like you look at the Raiders play and it's amazing to me to watch the Heights that Max Crosby plays at knowing his fate. Every game, every quarter, every snap motor.
00;40;38;03 - 00;40;38;13
Ron Zappolo
And and he's.
00;40;38;19 - 00;40;41;02
Tom Green
Still play player. He's a tremendous he.
00;40;41;02 - 00;40;42;04
Woody Paige
Wants to stay there.
00;40;42;04 - 00;40;49;25
Tom Green
And that's amazing because you could see him making a huge difference on a on a high end football team. But good for him I think so far I think.
00;40;49;25 - 00;40;56;11
Woody Paige
Pete Carroll told them you're good at it's like here you're going to have to give me three years and I'll give you.
00;40;56;13 - 00;41;04;10
Ron Zappolo
Tell you what. Yeah. If I, if Pete Carroll told me if I owned the Raiders and he said, give me three years, I go ahead.
00;41;04;13 - 00;41;04;28
Tom Green
I'll get another.
00;41;04;28 - 00;41;06;09
Ron Zappolo
Guy. I'm going to cut that in half.
00;41;06;09 - 00;41;28;17
Woody Paige
Here's what here's what's interesting though, to me about that game is the Raiders had five different routes that they could have drafted solder. And that was talked about that he was going to be drafted by them in the first round, where they kept having chances and chances and chances, and that would made much more sense for them, because he would have been at least a name coming in.
00;41;28;24 - 00;41;36;04
Woody Paige
And he, you know, we saw him play for two years. The guy has a great deal of talent that he's.
00;41;36;07 - 00;41;50;19
Ron Zappolo
I think he's in a good spot. I think he's going to start the rest of the year. Yeah. But and he's going to let them know one way or another. Do they want to go forward with him? Do they want to go forward with Gabriel? Do they want to resurrect Deshaun Watson or do they want to go with.
00;41;50;19 - 00;41;53;02
Tom Green
Myles Garrett going to stick around. Yeah he's another guy whose.
00;41;53;02 - 00;41;55;06
Ron Zappolo
Motor never stops. So yeah he's but.
00;41;55;06 - 00;42;08;24
Tom Green
Here's the deal with this. And I think it's interesting especially with our conversation with John Elway last week. And you talk about coaches and quarterbacks and how they get along. And Kevin Stefanski seems to be playing solder and encouraging solder through the most gritted of teeth.
00;42;08;24 - 00;42;10;07
Ron Zappolo
Yes, it does not.
00;42;10;07 - 00;42;11;18
Tom Green
It seems like a it's.
00;42;11;18 - 00;42;18;19
Ron Zappolo
Kind of like an Elway Tebow thing when they ask John, hey, how about Tim Tebow? Yeah, he's great, a great kid.
00;42;18;21 - 00;42;32;27
Woody Paige
I thought, I thought, John, we we have a talk I thought was great about conversation. And we've all talked to John 100 times and I like but he worked places where he didn't go. But when he said, man, he only answered Tim Tebow.
00;42;33;00 - 00;42;33;23
Ron Zappolo
He might.
00;42;33;25 - 00;42;34;05
Tom Green
Say.
00;42;34;05 - 00;42;55;10
Woody Paige
That was the only answer because that way he was right. He didn't go down that lane very far. But the point he was making is that's how he could get rid of Tim Tebow was to get the likes of a Peyton Manning. If he had brought in a Flacco back, yeah, would be more go. Why aren't you doing Tebow?
00;42;55;10 - 00;42;56;20
Woody Paige
Give people one more chance.
00;42;56;20 - 00;43;08;14
Ron Zappolo
I think should dour looked. Considering it was his first game, I thought he looked pretty good and Myles Garrett complimented him and said he made some throws that not many NFL quarterbacks can make.
00;43;08;14 - 00;43;15;08
Tom Green
And Jerry Jeudy made a play that reminded us all of his time in Denver. Just goofy. Yeah, but but really talented.
00;43;15;08 - 00;43;21;12
Ron Zappolo
But go play should dour and see what you have. You're right about Kevin Stefanski for whatever reason.
00;43;21;12 - 00;43;24;20
Tom Green
But won't you dour outlast Kevin Stefanski in Cleveland?
00;43;24;23 - 00;43;29;24
Ron Zappolo
I don't know, because they've only got a fifth round draft pick invested in him. I mean, it's not like they're.
00;43;30;00 - 00;43;32;12
Tom Green
Stefanski first pick. You got to be on thin ice.
00;43;32;12 - 00;43;39;03
Ron Zappolo
I think Kevin Stefanski is a pretty good coach. Yeah. And I think if Cleveland does fire him, he'll get another job pretty quickly.
00;43;39;05 - 00;43;51;06
Woody Paige
Well maybe well I hope and they they've said they didn't commit to should do or for the rest of the season. But they said he's going to start the next the next one. Yeah. Well go ahead. Well they have not played the rest of the season.
00;43;51;06 - 00;43;54;09
Tom Green
Of course you want to get a good look at Bailey Zappe. And you know.
00;43;54;11 - 00;44;10;05
Ron Zappolo
We're all talking about this because hiring and paying Deshaun Watson might have been the worst contract in the history of the NFL. And who did that. Who was responding. Oh what's his name. I don't say.
00;44;10;08 - 00;44;11;04
Woody Paige
Depot.
00;44;11;07 - 00;44;11;25
Tom Green
I don't.
00;44;11;28 - 00;44;33;06
Ron Zappolo
Know what I didn't like. I was reading about him and they asked him I guess if the Rocky news pedestrian Sean Watson, I wish he had said, you know what, that up. It's all on me. He tried to spread the blame. Yeah, it's a collaborative effort. The hell of that. What do you mean, collaborative effort? You're running the show.
00;44;33;10 - 00;44;38;19
Tom Green
It was the only contract I would compare it to would be the Chris Bryant where they were bidding against no one.
00;44;38;19 - 00;44;46;25
Ron Zappolo
It's like the NFL head coach sure goes for it. On fourth down, the press goes to him after the game. But I it was a collaborative effort. No it wasn't.
00;44;46;25 - 00;45;01;06
Woody Paige
You decide you go I understand what he's saying though because I got an email the other day saying, you know, why did you come back on the air, round the horns all over again? Why are you. And I said, don't blame me. It's three of us. It's a it's.
00;45;01;06 - 00;45;02;29
Tom Green
A it's a collaborative effort.
00;45;03;01 - 00;45;06;00
Ron Zappolo
It's collaborative effort. It's a collaborative.
00;45;06;00 - 00;45;07;17
Tom Green
Effort that will draw to a close a.
00;45;07;17 - 00;45;35;19
Woody Paige
Collaborative. Can I just say, can we say since we talk about. Sure. Give me in a paragraph one more about his dad. What is what is the solution here in regard to I mean, Rick George is leaving as athletic director. I think there are two former CU players, Bloom and Russell, that should be there at Russell Academy. That'd be my two choices and I'd maybe hire both of them.
00;45;35;21 - 00;45;46;25
Woody Paige
But what does this great expiring experiment at? See you. What direction does it take with Deon Sanders? I mean.
00;45;46;28 - 00;46;09;17
Ron Zappolo
Well, I'll start. It's very clear if you listen to Deon Sanders that he wants to be back. He wants to get it right. Trust me, you've got. I'm trying to quote him. Trust me, you've got the right guy. I'm going to make this work, I know this. No one at that university is going to show Deon Sanders the door.
00;46;09;17 - 00;46;15;20
Ron Zappolo
No, not after what he's done for him. So he's if as long as he wants to stay, he will be back.
00;46;15;20 - 00;46;32;08
Tom Green
I think if you want to Deon to improve the situation in Boulder, it would it would probably involve for him an unpopular thing and that would be getting a more professional level of assistant coaches around him, as opposed to guys who, you know, have gold jackets because that looks great. That sounds great, but I think they're really worked out.
00;46;32;08 - 00;46;34;19
Ron Zappolo
I think, well, I think there's a lot of truth in that. Yeah.
00;46;34;26 - 00;46;39;12
Woody Paige
But that's what that with a defensive coordinator and they gave up 45 points.
00;46;39;12 - 00;46;48;29
Tom Green
So but he was a guest. They they guessed on him he'd done a better job. You know it's hard to say. You know, you judge judged what kind of talent and how the coaches we.
00;46;48;29 - 00;46;59;20
Woody Paige
Talked about pro sports here just to expand that just a little bit, man. There are three bad college football teams here. If we want to throw in.
00;46;59;23 - 00;47;00;22
Tom Green
The Colorado State.
00;47;00;22 - 00;47;01;09
Ron Zappolo
University.
00;47;01;09 - 00;47;02;26
Tom Green
Football program is.
00;47;02;28 - 00;47;03;23
Woody Paige
Really.
00;47;03;25 - 00;47;04;26
Ron Zappolo
Air Force is.
00;47;05;02 - 00;47;15;19
Woody Paige
Just floundering in terms of what they're going to do in the future after building this new stadium. Air force shocked me because Calhoun is such a good.
00;47;15;19 - 00;47;16;06
Tom Green
Coach.
00;47;16;11 - 00;47;29;07
Woody Paige
And he's had 2 or 3 bad years that you don't get rid of him. I think he coaches as long as he wants to. And you've got the situation that see, you were kind of back to where we were like 8 or 9 years ago, where.
00;47;29;09 - 00;47;31;27
Tom Green
College football didn't exist in the Rocky Mountains for a little.
00;47;31;27 - 00;47;51;18
Ron Zappolo
While. Yeah. Although it's a different this isn't college football anymore. This, it just isn't another. And the sooner people realize that, the better off you're going to be because you don't build the team the way Bill McCartney or Sonny Liew did anymore. We're in a new we're in the new wild type windows.
00;47;51;18 - 00;47;57;17
Woody Paige
Yes, but I think I'll give you the you just brought to me. I go get Sonny's son.
00;47;57;19 - 00;48;02;04
Ron Zappolo
Matt Smart. I think, Matt, that that would be, you know.
00;48;02;06 - 00;48;06;06
Woody Paige
At least bring the. DNA.
00;48;06;07 - 00;48;06;29
Tom Green
Yeah, yeah.
00;48;07;00 - 00;48;08;18
Woody Paige
The best coach they ever had.
00;48;08;18 - 00;48;14;05
Tom Green
Yeah, it's hard to figure out who that who's really on their menu, who would want the job, who they can get.
00;48;14;07 - 00;48;17;14
Woody Paige
You know, they'd like to get Urban Meyer. They went to him once before.
00;48;17;14 - 00;48;24;15
Tom Green
And he helped them get a does. Yeah, yeah. Smart. Yeah. We're going to wrap it up here for the day. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
00;48;24;16 - 00;48;30;09
Natasha
Well, no, not quite. Speaking of menus, we have a fun little Thanksgiving addition of to your move.
00;48;30;09 - 00;48;35;22
Tom Green
We have an. It's your move. Nobody tell me anything. Well, let's go to. It's your move. Let's see what's going on with our Thanksgiving. It's your.
00;48;35;22 - 00;48;39;03
Woody Paige
Mood board. We gotta go. All right. Grinding your gears.
00;48;39;03 - 00;48;49;02
Tom Green
To first one. Turkey ham. Turkey ham. Easy for me for Thanksgiving. It's got to be turkey. As long as I don't have to cook ham.
00;48;49;05 - 00;48;58;25
Ron Zappolo
It's easier, taste better. Although I told my wife the other day, you know, if we want to have steaks, I'm good with that. I'll even cook them. Yeah, make it easier for you. So.
00;48;58;27 - 00;49;03;26
Woody Paige
Well, it's interesting for me because there are three guys up here that have been called both those turkey.
00;49;03;27 - 00;49;07;16
Ron Zappolo
Yes and yes. Yes.
00;49;07;19 - 00;49;16;13
Woody Paige
Here's my here's how I settle it every year after the show, and my friend Tom and I are going to go, I'm going to a place. I've ordered a turkey in.
00;49;16;15 - 00;49;16;28
Ron Zappolo
There you go.
00;49;16;28 - 00;49;24;11
Woody Paige
See, that way I don't have to make that decision. The people that are around me. And plus, what's wrong with having a piece of ham and a piece of turkey?
00;49;24;11 - 00;49;25;00
Tom Green
If he also.
00;49;25;00 - 00;49;26;01
Natasha
Said some families.
00;49;26;04 - 00;49;26;28
Tom Green
Bottomless expense.
00;49;26;29 - 00;49;34;07
Natasha
My dad said I should put up turducken and I was like, that's a fun, that's a funny word, but I never really eat that.
00;49;34;09 - 00;49;35;08
Tom Green
On Madden's broke.
00;49;35;08 - 00;49;41;16
Woody Paige
The turducken goes back into the 1800s, though. It's shocking. Okay, mashed potatoes and scalloped potatoes.
00;49;41;16 - 00;49;49;26
Tom Green
Let's hit the sides. This one's much tougher. Much tougher. Both are excellent. But for Thanksgiving, it's the mashed potatoes.
00;49;49;26 - 00;49;58;19
Ron Zappolo
Second that I'll go mashed it. And I like scalloped potatoes. But there's just something about mashed potatoes and gravy on Thanksgiving.
00;49;58;22 - 00;50;06;05
Woody Paige
Well, I'm kind of like job. We're going to go biblical on you today. Again. Both I care.
00;50;06;06 - 00;50;07;17
Ron Zappolo
Both, both.
00;50;07;20 - 00;50;10;29
Woody Paige
What's wrong? What is wrong? Another $4. You get it?
00;50;11;01 - 00;50;14;09
Tom Green
I understand these are tough choices. You don't like making tough choices?
00;50;14;16 - 00;50;21;24
Woody Paige
I like make tough choices. And my tough choice was, hey, I'm in turkey, mashed potatoes and scallop potatoes. Give me the next one.
00;50;21;24 - 00;50;23;17
Ron Zappolo
Let's see what to do.
00;50;23;19 - 00;50;43;14
Woody Paige
Oh. Oh. Bill Plaskett from the Los Angeles Times and I were on Around the Horn for years and years, and he thinks that the canned cranberry sauce is the greatest thing in the world. I don't think opening a canned and the actual product looks like the inside of the cave.
00;50;43;14 - 00;50;48;29
Ron Zappolo
All you got to do. Look at that picture. Tell me what looks more appetizing.
00;50;49;01 - 00;51;05;27
Tom Green
You know what I enjoyed? Because the homemade cranberry used to just be like, what we see there. But now I've had more people who make more creative homemade cranberries. Like with how a piano and stuff like that. Yeah. So I'll go homemade. But but can of cranberry. Not bad.
00;51;05;27 - 00;51;08;20
Woody Paige
Well, that's, that's somebody I know.
00;51;08;20 - 00;51;16;09
Natasha
It's it's controversial, but yeah, I'm canned. Girl. I always feel bad because my cousins are proud of me and I'm like, yeah, I don't want it.
00;51;16;12 - 00;51;20;08
Tom Green
But it's not really the look. And just it's the sound. It makes you.
00;51;20;08 - 00;51;22;06
Natasha
Think, oh yeah, of course you.
00;51;22;06 - 00;51;40;13
Woody Paige
Think that that that somebody that was putting this together in California wherever cranberries have I think it's in California. The did stand in. Don't they stand. Yeah I don't think they said well this is a good idea here. Let's just make it look exactly like it's the canned.
00;51;40;15 - 00;51;42;10
Tom Green
What they do. They wade into the bugs.
00;51;42;10 - 00;52;07;17
Ron Zappolo
Ron, you know what? I'll tell you, the key to all of this is you start drinking wine at my house around 1:00, and my adult children are over there and saying, dad, don't open. This will open the good stuff. So right away the wine is flowing. By the time we eat around 330 or 4:00, the food on your plate gets kind of old, almost like it's in a blend, like a stew.
00;52;07;17 - 00;52;17;14
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, because it's a stew. Because it's all kind of on top of everything. And it really doesn't matter anymore because you're just eating whatever is put in front of you.
00;52;17;17 - 00;52;18;17
Tom Green
It's the best.
00;52;18;18 - 00;52;30;11
Woody Paige
It's it sounds like also, I forgive me that you're not only drinking, but there's another thing that we put in our body in Colorado that's legalized.
00;52;30;13 - 00;52;42;02
Ron Zappolo
No, I'm not going to we're not into that. I'm into more of the high end wine. But I understand that some people will, make an addendum to their Thanksgiving dinner and. Okay. Oh, here's a good one.
00;52;42;07 - 00;52;43;24
Woody Paige
Yeah, this is good because.
00;52;43;26 - 00;52;45;13
Tom Green
Both look like your shirt.
00;52;45;16 - 00;52;49;02
Natasha
Pumpkin pie. Oh, we go pumpkin pie.
00;52;49;03 - 00;52;50;18
Ron Zappolo
In the spirit.
00;52;50;20 - 00;52;57;29
Woody Paige
You guys know I wish gravy if we were doing gravy because he's going to wear this Thursday. And if he scores below.
00;52;57;29 - 00;53;04;11
Ron Zappolo
You know, I haven't worn this before Thanksgiving. I don't think it'll make the patches. It's got everything. Oh, yeah.
00;53;04;13 - 00;53;06;18
Woody Paige
I didn't know that. They didn't patch cinnamon.
00;53;06;18 - 00;53;08;15
Tom Green
Catches a hula. Okay. Wear that.
00;53;08;16 - 00;53;11;04
Ron Zappolo
Oh I can't pick. They're both great. I go with.
00;53;11;04 - 00;53;16;06
Tom Green
Pumpkin because pumpkin is again it's the seasonal choice. Apple pie I can enjoy year round.
00;53;16;06 - 00;53;23;13
Ron Zappolo
Yeah but that apple pie with the. Well, as Yogi Berra said, what's that? Ella modi with a little ice cream.
00;53;23;15 - 00;53;25;19
Tom Green
Sure.
00;53;25;22 - 00;53;29;04
Woody Paige
Went to Costco.
00;53;29;07 - 00;53;31;07
Woody Paige
With my lady.
00;53;31;10 - 00;53;35;20
Ron Zappolo
How long did it take you to get out of there? If you're like me, the last.
00;53;35;20 - 00;53;45;07
Woody Paige
Time I went, I went to get liquor, like. Right. And I got about ten bottles, and I got a line. I said, I'll be in line here for six weeks.
00;53;45;07 - 00;53;46;13
Tom Green
So you open one up.
00;53;46;16 - 00;54;06;01
Woody Paige
It's. And so I said, I'm never going back to Costco. So I went back last week because somebody told me, I said, what is the best time to go to Costco? And you can actually get a card to get you in before it opens. This door opens. So we go early. And I said, well, I don't want to go early because I want the samples, you know.
00;54;06;08 - 00;54;07;22
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, you want all the.
00;54;07;24 - 00;54;17;18
Woody Paige
How, the nibbles. I want the people like me because that's my next job in life. And you guys come into Costco, I'm going to say, you guys want to taste some apple pie, some fritters.
00;54;17;18 - 00;54;18;05
Ron Zappolo
I got it.
00;54;18;07 - 00;54;23;27
Woody Paige
So it got pumpkin pie, pecan pie, apple pie.
00;54;23;27 - 00;54;25;23
Tom Green
So you're going to so you're going to say both.
00;54;25;27 - 00;54;26;06
Ron Zappolo
You got.
00;54;26;07 - 00;54;26;23
Woody Paige
Everything.
00;54;27;00 - 00;54;27;07
Ron Zappolo
Yeah.
00;54;27;12 - 00;54;34;04
Woody Paige
Sweet potato pie I want to give people choices. Yeah. Let's not I don't like pumpkin pie.
00;54;34;04 - 00;54;35;06
Ron Zappolo
But you got to have pie.
00;54;35;07 - 00;54;35;28
Woody Paige
I don't like.
00;54;36;01 - 00;54;37;21
Ron Zappolo
Thanksgiving without an assortment.
00;54;37;28 - 00;54;39;04
Woody Paige
If you have apple pie, you get. Okay.
00;54;39;06 - 00;54;48;00
Ron Zappolo
This one. This is the only one where both of them are essential. Yeah. You don't have one without the other.
00;54;48;07 - 00;54;52;15
Tom Green
But it used to be you could snooze during the Lions game, and now they're good.
00;54;52;15 - 00;54;53;04
Ron Zappolo
They're good.
00;54;53;09 - 00;54;56;16
Tom Green
But well Cowboys Chiefs is a nice. You're going to Cowboys that game.
00;54;56;16 - 00;54;57;18
Ron Zappolo
The Bengal Raven.
00;54;57;18 - 00;54;58;17
Tom Green
Game. That's a nap.
00;54;58;17 - 00;54;59;18
Ron Zappolo
Or you can nap that.
00;54;59;18 - 00;55;00;25
Woody Paige
What's the.
00;55;00;28 - 00;55;01;26
Natasha
Job.
00;55;01;28 - 00;55;03;05
Woody Paige
If you're doing the turkey.
00;55;03;05 - 00;55;03;25
Ron Zappolo
Is bit.
00;55;03;28 - 00;55;05;03
Woody Paige
One of you like the ham.
00;55;05;10 - 00;55;06;10
Ron Zappolo
I like the ham.
00;55;06;12 - 00;55;16;19
Woody Paige
So you're okay. But those of us that are going to eat turkey because there's something in a turkey trip to to stuff that put you to sleep. Yeah, you got to see you won't go to sleep. So you're.
00;55;16;20 - 00;55;21;17
Ron Zappolo
Oh, no, I'll go to sleep. I'm older, I but naps are cool. Yeah, I'll definitely.
00;55;21;17 - 00;55;25;28
Woody Paige
So that's, that's the end of that. Are we doing grandeur gears? We're not doing that this week.
00;55;25;29 - 00;55;29;16
Natasha
If you wanted to do a little bit of gratitude. Yes.
00;55;29;18 - 00;55;30;06
Ron Zappolo
What do you have?
00;55;30;09 - 00;55;33;17
Woody Paige
It's Thanksgiving. What are we thankful for?
00;55;33;19 - 00;55;34;14
Ron Zappolo
00;55;34;16 - 00;55;35;16
Woody Paige
And I won't started.
00;55;35;19 - 00;55;36;24
Tom Green
Go ahead.
00;55;36;26 - 00;55;59;11
Woody Paige
When I lived in Parker, Colorado, you know, it's, in 82, I think the. But, the nuggets played the Lakers, I believe it. Oh, Big Mac and I went and it was like 75 degrees that day. And when I came out of the game, it was like, minus five, and I didn't wear socks. And I live in Parker, and I don't make it home.
00;55;59;14 - 00;56;20;20
Woody Paige
I make it part of the way, and I get pneumonia and in the hospital. And I'm thankful for Ron Cipolla, who came to visit me in Aurora in the hospital when I was under an oxygen tent. And I'm really in bad shape and Ron actually went out of his way and we were friends. But he wasn't my closest friend.
00;56;20;22 - 00;56;31;29
Woody Paige
And I'm so thankful that I have worked with him on different, platforms and that we're doing the show together.
00;56;32;01 - 00;56;58;24
Woody Paige
I was, told that my show on national TV on ESPN was being ended, and I was shocked that Tom green called me and said, I'd like to come over to your studio and take pictures. And I said, why? And he said, I just see your show's ending. And, you know, I'd like to be there. He came and spent a show with me and Natasha and took photos and sent them to me.
00;56;58;27 - 00;57;21;24
Woody Paige
I'm thankful that I'm working with these two guys. I thought about this this week that I reached out to them and I said, let's have some fun. And we're doing the show and we're having fun. And based on what last week's program produced in terms of people are having fun with us. Yeah. And I hope that you had fun today, that this was more fun.
00;57;21;24 - 00;57;39;18
Woody Paige
It's Thanksgiving week, so we were kind of more sliding around. Yeah, but you use some big words. But I'm thankful and I'm so happy that I get the chance to say I'm thankful for having these two guys as my friend, and they have been better to me than I probably have been. No, no, no.
00;57;39;21 - 00;57;59;09
Ron Zappolo
You you're going to make me. I'm not going to cry. But, I remember going to see you. I didn't know you were going to bring that up. It was a long time ago, and I like to think that that's cemented, our friendship. And it's the best kind of friendship. Because I like the friends that you don't have to call every week or every month.
00;57;59;11 - 00;58;10;00
Ron Zappolo
And you see them and you pick right up. And one of the things I'm thankful for, Tom already knows this. We spent a decade in an office not as big as these three chairs.
00;58;10;02 - 00;58;12;24
Woody Paige
So I hope I had better looking chairs.
00;58;12;26 - 00;58;32;19
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, but I'm, I'll tell you why I'm thankful, because this hasn't been the easiest year for a lot of us up here. And I was telling a friend of yours before the show, I lost my best friend a few months ago, and it's, been hard for me to get over that. And I've cried a lot about it, and I.
00;58;32;19 - 00;58;58;20
Ron Zappolo
And I realized that life is, not just a bunch of endless days that I see my mortality in front of me. So to to reconnect with you two guys is something that I. I couldn't echo your comments anymore. I'm, I'm excited just to come in here. And I know how I feel on Tuesday morning when I drive in here and I'm going to see you two guys.
00;58;58;23 - 00;59;11;22
Ron Zappolo
I appreciate it because as I get older, my friends mean a lot more to me. You can't pick your family, but you do pick your friends, so I appreciate the both of you. I think more than you know.
00;59;11;25 - 00;59;39;07
Tom Green
Thanks for, I guess for me, it's, a reflection on a hard year. And that's what makes me thankful. Because it makes me thankful for the people who've, helped me through a hard year. And it makes me thankful for the good years to, it, it's time to reflect and try to find, positivity in tough times and time to, understand how lucky you are.
00;59;39;07 - 00;59;42;02
Tom Green
Even when there are times you feel like all your luck is bad.
00;59;42;05 - 00;59;44;06
Natasha
So the reason for the season.
00;59;44;06 - 01;00;07;18
Tom Green
Yeah, it is. Exactly. And I just, I just feel very thankful for all the good things that have happened to me, especially in a tough year. And that includes doing this and reconnecting with Woody and Ron and getting more time with Natasha as well. And enjoying the crew, all the crew down. And here at gorilla, it's been a, you know, a year of dramatic change for me in a lot of ways, and this has made it so much better.
01;00;07;18 - 01;00;19;28
Tom Green
So and I think I think I speak for all of us. We say we're thankful for people who take the time to join us and tune in and listen and or watch and, you know, put up with us. Yeah. Sometimes it takes it, I.
01;00;19;28 - 01;00;41;00
Ron Zappolo
Hope the one thing that people understand when they watch this and Woody touched on it, we're here because of two things. One, we enjoy each other's company because we all have spent our lives working in situations where we worked with people that we got paid to work with, that we didn't enjoy. The other reason we're here, we're having fun doing this.
01;00;41;00 - 01;01;02;19
Ron Zappolo
Yeah, this is not we're enjoying it. It's fun. We laugh a lot. We get in here, we screw around, we come, we do it. It's fun. And we're not here for any other reason than that. So I, I hope the, the listener or the viewer understands what we're about when we're doing this. We're not trying to break new ground.
01;01;02;21 - 01;01;04;13
Ron Zappolo
We're having fun.
01;01;04;16 - 01;01;25;05
Woody Paige
And we hope you're having fun with us. And I especially, I'm thankful for the guy that was sent to the grocery by his wife said, we need milk. I get to tell you, said, I sit outside the King Soopers and listened to your whole podcast, and he said, it just changed my day. I went and got the milk and I got her some flowers and so good.
01;01;25;08 - 01;01;29;10
Woody Paige
It's interesting because I've done that where I stayed in the car and that.
01;01;29;11 - 01;01;30;20
Tom Green
Yeah, I want to hear the rest.
01;01;30;24 - 01;01;41;21
Woody Paige
Yes, I've done it. But those of you that has run said that have joined us, we appreciate that. We're thankful that we still have some place in society. I guess that.
01;01;41;24 - 01;01;43;11
Ron Zappolo
It's not worthless.
01;01;43;14 - 01;01;45;05
Woody Paige
Like playing golf every. Yeah, sure.
01;01;45;07 - 01;01;46;28
Ron Zappolo
But I don't want to go there.
01;01;47;00 - 01;01;50;29
Tom Green
Well, for all of us at After the Horn. Happy thanksgiving.
01;01;51;01 - 01;01;52;27
Woody Paige
We're thankful for all the people.
01;01;52;27 - 01;01;54;01
Ron Zappolo
That everybody here.
01;01;54;02 - 01;02;09;00
Tom Green
Oh, the people who help help us make the show. And those of you who listen, you can always give us some feedback. Like subscribe. Or you can reach out to us at eight at Gorilla Sportsnet. And we hope you have a great Thanksgiving, and we'll see you back here again next week. Thanks.