After the Horn

After the Horn Ep. 15 Weekend Betting Edition | Picks for Top College & Pro Games

Episode Summary

Tom Green, Ron Zappolo, and Natasha break down a wild slate of college and NFL matchups — from Oklahoma–Missouri and Oregon–USC to CU’s ongoing struggles and the Broncos’ push for AFC supremacy. They debate whether Kansas City’s dynasty is fading, how the Colts factor into Denver’s playoff race, and which teams can actually make a Super Bowl run. Plus: Roy Orbison references, betting regrets, and a reminder to go back and watch the John Elway episode.

Episode Notes

On this weekend betting edition of After the Horn, Tom Green, Ron Zappolo, and Natasha open with the fallout from last week’s picks — including some regrettable bets and some well-deserved “told you so” moments. The crew dives into a full college football slate, including Missouri–Oklahoma, Georgia–Charlotte, Oregon–USC, and BYU–Cincinnati, with Ron delivering an all-timer “Blue By You” pick inspired by Roy Orbison. The conversation shifts to CU’s ongoing struggles under Deion Sanders, the Buffs' quarterback situation, and whether they can hang with Arizona State. They also break down the massive AFC matchup between the Chiefs and Colts and debate whether Kansas City’s dominance is nearing an end. The group looks at the Broncos’ path to a top playoff seed, the Patriots’ soft remaining schedule, and why the Chargers and Bills look vulnerable. The episode wraps with thoughts on the NFC picture, the Rams’ emergence, and the Panthers vs. 49ers Monday night matchup — plus banter, nostalgia, and some colorful detours involving Moneyball, Mike Epstein, and drinking out of the wrong glass.

Episode Transcription

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Ron Zappolo

It's the weekend betting edition, and I just want to at the very top. I want to apologize to all those people who bet a month's salary.

 

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Woody Paige

What?

 

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Ron Zappolo

You know, I could do it this way. I think it's. We can do this. Remember the movie animal House?

 

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Tom Green

Very.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Remember when Otter said to, flounder? Hey, you fucked up. You trusted.

 

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Tom Green

Us.

 

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Natasha

Hey, it needs to be noted. There was one person on this podcast that told you that the Broncos were going to win.

 

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Tom Green

Okay, win and cover.

 

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Natasha

We're not as good as everybody said. And the Broncos were not.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Even Rod Smith is on my case. And rod will continue to be one of my favorite people and my favorite all time Broncos. But rod, I just can't pick the Broncos every week.

 

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Woody Paige

I think that you and Natasha should change seats, so I.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Think we should she should come over here and do.

 

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Tom Green

This.

 

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Tom Green

So, it was interesting because a lot of the advice that we give here on the betting shows, similar to, you know, when when I told people to get in on the ground floor of Enron.

 

00:01:07:25 - 00:01:08:07

Woody Paige

And did you.

 

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Tom Green

Know that, you know, every year they have Bobby Bonilla Day where he gets another million dollar.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Jets from the.

 

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Tom Green

Mets? Yeah. Fred Wilpon, who owned the Mets. The advice he got on that came from Bernie Madoff, Bernie.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Madoff.

 

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Tom Green

Bernie Madoff was the. Hey.

 

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Ron Zappolo

And before we go any further, we weren't the only three swing. And you know what the pick the Kansas City Chiefs to win and cover most of America.

 

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Tom Green

Some of us were emphatic, though.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Yeah, some of us were emphatic.

 

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Woody Paige

Yeah. More so.

 

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Tom Green

Yes, yes. But anyway, some.

 

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Natasha

Of us know better.

 

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Tom Green

It's so great though, because no matter how bad some of the picks are, we come back again and we do it again. We got a clean slate again. We are an empty bank account.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Entertainment purpose only.

 

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Tom Green

So let's, so let's take a look at some of the college kids.

 

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Woody Paige

And you should understand that when I pulled up today, they had painted over my pocket. That was an indicator that maybe I'm not so welcome.

 

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Tom Green

I don't always remember my picks, but I do remember last week you guys thought Pittsburgh was going to hang with Notre Dame.

 

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Ron Zappolo

We did. Yeah.

 

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Tom Green

So did I like the Irish in that one. So let's get to the college football games. Let's see what's available. For those of you who might be willing to drop a secular two out there, Missouri seven and three going to Norman, taking on number 11. Oklahoma, Oklahoma, seven and a half point pick. They come off a very impressive win down in Alabama.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Very impressive, very big. And that's one of the reasons why I'm going to shade Missouri here and take the points. Because I think that was such an emotional win for Oklahoma. I'm not sure that a week later they can get back up to that emotional level.

 

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Woody Paige

Woody, I said last week, this this is not an a great Oklahoma team. I think you're absolutely right that they have during the course of this season. They have gotten up for a few games. But then, you know, against Tennessee, for instance, they looked awful, right? Missouri at the beginning of the year, we were thinking, well, maybe this is, one of those special Missouri teams.

 

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Woody Paige

It's not special.

 

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Tom Green

It's been a couple decades between Missouri special special units. Yeah. So here's what I think, though.

 

00:03:16:23 - 00:03:19:16

Woody Paige

They actually produce more journalists than they do football.

 

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Tom Green

Do you guys like the points? I'm going to say I like Oklahoma, and if I had next month's pay, which I don't anymore, but if I did.

 

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Ron Zappolo

You're still getting paid by somebody. Woody. And I were kind of on this one on the government's door.

 

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Tom Green

I think Oklahoma shows up. And after that win in Alabama, now returning home, also returns the juice to the Sooners.

 

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Ron Zappolo

John Mature looked better. Yeah. Tyler Simpson I keep reading these stories about how great Tyler Simpson is and I don't see it.

 

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Tom Green

So that's why I like mature and the Sooners to cover the number. I think they'll be jacked up at home.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Woody and I going to go with Mizzou in the.

 

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Woody Paige

Yeah, because I got to get this right because, I but I'm still not getting my snap payments.

 

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Tom Green

Here's a tough one because a lot of people think Georgia's going to beat Charlotte. Georgia looked pretty good this past week in Charlotte. I don't know if anybody's can name Charlotte or what their name is, but we put this on there because the line is just 44.5. So they're saying, give us a chance.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Tell you the game that we should have on. But and we can't do it because as we're taping this it's a mac game. The University of Massachusetts is playing Ohio tonight. I did a little work on the Boston Globe on this UMass is own ten their own ten against the spread that is hard to do.

 

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Tom Green

Their own ten in.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Real own ten real and own ten against.

 

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Tom Green

So they keep trying to find a number.

 

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Ron Zappolo

They can't. They can't. You're Woody's old friend Dan Shaughnessy keeps writing that they should be a Division two, and they fired off a cannon last week after they were down 45 to nothing against Northern Illinois, and he ripped them for that. Like, are you out of your mind.

 

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Tom Green

Division two in this country?

 

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Ron Zappolo

Yeah, I'm I mean this is like a UMass game. Charlotte and Georgia shouldn't have this.

 

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Woody Paige

Why not I because.

 

00:05:10:25 - 00:05:11:20

Ron Zappolo

Charlotte might get her.

 

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Woody Paige

For two reasons. One, Georgia is emerging. I've talked about Texas Samia yeah and Texas A&M third in the country. But Georgia's is really making you spend a couple of weeks out there. Georgia is really making an impression. And yep this is a nothing game. Every SEC team has one of those games. Yeah late in the season you go why aren't you playing confident.

 

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Woody Paige

Exactly. Well they sneak in a New Mexico State or Charlotte or something like that. And that's been the tradition. Do you see that they they save one of their Nebraska off conference teams. But I'm going to take Charlotte in this because I think Georgia gets up early, which they will. And then they go, well we need to be saving people.

 

00:05:56:19 - 00:05:59:29

Woody Paige

And so I think we see a lot of third and fourth stringers.

 

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Ron Zappolo

And I hope you're right. And I hope then they may call off the dogs at some point. But dog in the second half, well, that's what I mean. Yeah. And the other thing a good friend of ours, Sonny Lubbock, used to always say the problem that Charlotte has and he would say this when they would go play Alabama.

 

00:06:17:19 - 00:06:22:23

Ron Zappolo

Yeah, he'd say it isn't about getting your ass kicked that day. It's about the next three weeks.

 

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Tom Green

And you're battered.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Exactly. And that's it's later in the season. So Charlotte can do it. But it is kind.

 

00:06:29:02 - 00:06:34:23

Tom Green

Of tough game to figure for that thing. Because 44.5 year into the scramble this.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Is a good.

 

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Tom Green

Game. But to bet just one one quick thought still on Charlotte Georgia is I think it's tricky because you know you said you know they came off that big high Georgia came off pretty big high to this win over Texas. And they're going to show up at oh Charlotte's on the schedule. And they're going.

 

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Ron Zappolo

But I think I'll take Georgia's third string against Charlotte.

 

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Tom Green

They probably have some to.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Yeah.

 

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Tom Green

Five stars tough.

 

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Woody Paige

You know Ron used to be a neighbor of mine. And I found that the two worst places to be between the hedges were in Georgia at Georgia. And it is when these kids were home.

 

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Ron Zappolo

There is some truth in that I can't my kids tried to ruin, you know, Woody's daughter was older, my kids were younger. And he was very good to them, though.

 

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Woody Paige

You know, USC and Oregon.

 

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Tom Green

Let's go out.

 

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Woody Paige

West. We have been good matchup. Oregon's been up and down on Oregon all year. Even though they're nine and one. They're going to be they're going to be in the postseason championship playoff. But they still don't show me.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Totally agree. They barely got by an Iowa team that is not great. I would I think guess seeing the ten and a half. That's a big number. I think I'd take the Trojans.

 

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Tom Green

USC didn't look all that impressive either this weekend. No, no.

 

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Ron Zappolo

They said it would beat Iowa just the same way or beat Iowa.

 

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Tom Green

But you said you know that Oregon's in that playoff. And I'm thinking if they lose to USC they're not. But nobody I mean it's really hard. And teams know it especially in the in the pack going up to Eugene. And winning is a big ask. So I do like taking those ten and a half points. And just on the on the supposition that maybe these, these teams will, will play a classic conference bad.

 

00:08:15:08 - 00:08:15:27

Tom Green

And.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Then one more thing top they could lose. It's going to be a lot of two loss teams in the in the final 12.

 

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Woody Paige

With the two of you help me and the entire audience here. What conferences are they?

 

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Tom Green

Yeah. And the PAC and certain number here. Is it the Pac two right now? Pac two, Oregon State and Washington State.

 

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Ron Zappolo

But it it you're right. It's crazy.

 

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Woody Paige

And I would you could go I was talking to somebody recently about that. They think I can't keep up with who's you know in conferences. And I said you should almost have to wear that on your forehead or on your helmet that we're in the PAC. What about you know, well, the, the Pac two or the Pac 14.

 

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Tom Green

Well, it's two at the moment, but now they're they're absorbing all those other, West orphans in the West are all falling in.

 

00:09:03:00 - 00:09:12:00

Woody Paige

What used to be the whack is now the mountain West in the in and what conferences. Hawaii. I never can figure that out.

 

00:09:12:02 - 00:09:13:04

Tom Green

Used to be in the mountain west.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Mountain west.

 

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Tom Green

All right. Pittsburgh and Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech's been very impressive this year throughout the season. Pittsburgh barely showed up for that game with Notre Dame. That was a terrific, tremendously disappointing effort by the Panthers. Now they got to go down to Atlanta and face Heinz King, Georgia Tech Georgia Tech is a is is a tough out.

 

00:09:35:11 - 00:09:45:29

Tom Green

And I like Georgia Tech I'd play those two and a half quickly and and I think Georgia Tech especially with what we saw of Pittsburgh last week and I'm sure they'll play better. But I didn't like anything that I saw from the past.

 

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Ron Zappolo

I'm with you. I like Georgia Tech. They're just a better football team, though, that two and a half is should be a little higher than that.

 

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Woody Paige

Well, I'm going to turn my pick over to Natasha's. Okay. Thinking about Pittsburgh Georgia Tech. You're not thinking about. You're thinking about lunch.

 

00:10:02:10 - 00:10:04:13

Ron Zappolo

All right, enough of that.

 

00:10:04:15 - 00:10:20:27

Woody Paige

Because I'll tell you, Georgia Tech has the greatest close by place to go eat in the varsity. Anybody that's ever been to Atlanta out there listening, watching the varsity is the greatest.

 

00:10:20:27 - 00:10:21:15

Tom Green

Recommend it.

 

00:10:21:15 - 00:10:24:15

Woody Paige

Highly, greatest hot dogs in the world.

 

00:10:24:16 - 00:10:31:22

Tom Green

So if you were there and it was Georgia Tech minus two and a half and you were ordering food, but someone said, who do you like in the game?

 

00:10:31:24 - 00:10:34:05

Ron Zappolo

You clear the mustard off your mouth.

 

00:10:34:07 - 00:10:37:11

Tom Green

Well, would you would you pick one of these two teams.

 

00:10:37:14 - 00:10:40:08

Woody Paige

Would take Georgia Tech? Doesn't that all day?

 

00:10:40:10 - 00:10:41:09

Tom Green

Doesn't that overload?

 

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Woody Paige

It's for Pittsburgh. Disappointed all of us. Listen said not the best set up.

 

00:10:46:13 - 00:10:47:14

Ron Zappolo

We all agree that over.

 

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Tom Green

Under seems really high. Two 62.5. That's that's they're asking for some points there. Pittsburgh didn't look like they could score in a scrimmage.

 

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Woody Paige

Just going to beat them. But by a field goal that's all you got to do. Yes.

 

00:11:00:07 - 00:11:07:15

Tom Green

So you have to wait till next game six. You have to get next month's pay because this month they go, we'll go on our pay here.

 

00:11:07:15 - 00:11:09:16

Ron Zappolo

We're yeah. Rolling in does.

 

00:11:09:20 - 00:11:12:05

Woody Paige

Well, my Social Security checks late this year.

 

00:11:12:10 - 00:11:16:25

Tom Green

So let's go to the, one of the mysterious games income.

 

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Ron Zappolo

Is that.

 

00:11:19:07 - 00:11:27:28

Tom Green

Up in Boulder, Deon and the three and seven buffs hosting Arizona State. The buffs have been hard to figure. This year.

 

00:11:28:00 - 00:11:42:14

Woody Paige

No, they have it. They're bad. They're awful. They have finally gone to the kid. Juju Lewis. We looked at that. Really? He did look good. Almost 300 yards passing. They should have started him at the beginning.

 

00:11:42:17 - 00:11:45:20

Tom Green

This is West Virginia game against West Virginia.

 

00:11:45:20 - 00:11:50:24

Woody Paige

Yeah yeah. And they're going to lose at home. They're not any good this year.

 

00:11:50:25 - 00:11:51:23

Ron Zappolo

Are they going to lose by more.

 

00:11:51:23 - 00:12:11:01

Woody Paige

This was not a great crop of or crap of. Oh yeah from the portal. They got a bunch of people that really weren't good on other teams that were even worse when they got to Colorado, and I don't think they're going to win one for Rick George because he's leaving the.

 

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Tom Green

Departing ad up.

 

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Ron Zappolo

In Boulder. I'm going to make a homer pick because you know, I'm so used to picking against the Denver teams, I'm going to take see you in the seven and a half like that.

 

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Tom Green

He's someone like me.

 

00:12:21:21 - 00:12:26:09

Ron Zappolo

I want somebody to like me. So I'm going to go see you. Plus the seven and a half.

 

00:12:26:10 - 00:12:30:20

Woody Paige

Oh well Rod Smith's going to be so so good draft.

 

00:12:30:23 - 00:12:31:28

Tom Green

Where's he. Central Missouri.

 

00:12:31:28 - 00:12:33:19

Ron Zappolo

State is southwest.

 

00:12:33:19 - 00:12:53:13

Tom Green

Missouri southwest Missouri state. You know Colorado I think I think they're there. The record is so odd because they've just been hammered 2 or 3 times this year. And then the, the one big win they registered was home against Iowa State. And that was an Iowa State team that had come unglued. They were five. And oh and then they lost four straight.

 

00:12:53:15 - 00:12:59:01

Tom Green

And they caught them on the way down Arizona State at seven and three playing some pretty good football.

 

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Woody Paige

What are you saying.

 

00:13:00:06 - 00:13:02:22

Tom Green

I'm saying I have no idea. I have no idea.

 

00:13:02:25 - 00:13:04:17

Woody Paige

You know I didn't know where all that was. Oh, there's.

 

00:13:04:20 - 00:13:13:29

Tom Green

You know, I just like the every now and then just sprinkle in an honest opinion. Oh, I have no idea. No clue. But I think I definitely think when this game's over.

 

00:13:14:02 - 00:13:16:12

Ron Zappolo

Somebody will have won and somebody will have lost.

 

00:13:16:12 - 00:13:19:00

Tom Green

There will be a final score that'll be worth noting. And.

 

00:13:19:05 - 00:13:30:03

Woody Paige

But the most important thing to remember today is to go back and listen to our show or watch it earlier in the week, when we had John Way. You. Yes. None of this matter. No. Not even.

 

00:13:30:06 - 00:13:34:23

Ron Zappolo

100% correct. Don't pay any attention. Go get the Elway Show. It's much better than this.

 

00:13:34:23 - 00:13:38:19

Woody Paige

One more time. We are his favorite team all year long.

 

00:13:38:19 - 00:13:55:19

Ron Zappolo

It's BYU. They bounce back from that drubbing to Texas Tech. They killed TCU. BYU at Cincinnati. One of the better matchups of the day. BYU is going to the playoffs. I'm going to take BYU and lay the two and a half.

 

00:13:55:22 - 00:14:16:05

Tom Green

On the road. Cincinnati, can handle itself, but I don't like the matchup for them either. I like you, your choice with with BYU, they've been very impressive. And they also need to continue to be impressive as they do all the way down the stretch. But if they get to ten and one, which you know, doesn't guarantee they cover, but it's only two and a half.

 

00:14:16:07 - 00:14:23:00

Tom Green

So I like the Cougars to go to Cincinnati and you know, like many people who doesn't want to go to Cincinnati in.

 

00:14:23:00 - 00:14:27:06

Ron Zappolo

November, especially if you're Mormon. So get out of Salt Lake.

 

00:14:27:08 - 00:14:32:14

Woody Paige

Who is responsible for the for the song Pretty Woman? Well.

 

00:14:32:16 - 00:14:33:28

Ron Zappolo

Roy Orbison, oh yeah.

 

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Woody Paige

He also had another great song. And that's what I am approaching this game with. His other great song was Blue by You. So, BYU colors.

 

00:14:45:26 - 00:14:48:12

Tom Green

Right? Blue, blue and white.

 

00:14:48:14 - 00:14:51:14

Woody Paige

BYU blue by you.

 

00:14:51:14 - 00:14:52:15

Tom Green

This is your Orbison pick.

 

00:14:52:21 - 00:14:53:14

Woody Paige

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

 

00:14:53:14 - 00:14:55:15

Tom Green

You only pull that out once a year.

 

00:14:55:17 - 00:15:00:07

Ron Zappolo

When Darren Stead did a better job on that song, though, she made it her own. Oh she did.

 

00:15:00:07 - 00:15:03:08

Tom Green

She did a tremendous job. But it's hard to out sing Roy Orbison.

 

00:15:03:08 - 00:15:13:26

Ron Zappolo

The Roy Orbison is the greatest. But Linda Ronstadt, you know, God love her. She's sick and can't sing anymore. But in her heyday, she was. It's like a bird magic argument.

 

00:15:13:26 - 00:15:15:08

Tom Green

I mean, you could take either one.

 

00:15:15:08 - 00:15:16:17

Ron Zappolo

I'll take blue by you.

 

00:15:16:17 - 00:15:20:11

Woody Paige

Speaking of that, she's a, you know, she's having some health problems.

 

00:15:20:11 - 00:15:20:23

Ron Zappolo

She is.

 

00:15:20:23 - 00:15:22:14

Woody Paige

She's got real health problems.

 

00:15:22:14 - 00:15:35:11

Ron Zappolo

She really is. And you know what else blew by you? I remember when Tim McCarver is no longer with us. Used to do those, baseball games. Anytime a guy threw a heater, bye, he'd go, Linda Ronstadt, blue by you, by you.

 

00:15:35:11 - 00:15:41:06

Woody Paige

Well, and I understand him because we're. We both grew up in Memphis. We were in a,

 

00:15:41:09 - 00:15:43:26

Ron Zappolo

Young union. McCarver.

 

00:15:44:00 - 00:15:56:10

Woody Paige

Yeah, we were in an all star game together, and we were 1314 and we were the two catchers. And I decided at that moment that I wasn't going to have a major league game.

 

00:15:56:10 - 00:15:57:04

Ron Zappolo

Because.

 

00:15:57:07 - 00:15:58:10

Woody Paige

That guy.

 

00:15:58:13 - 00:16:00:01

Ron Zappolo

When Deon dumped the Bucket.

 

00:16:00:01 - 00:16:01:26

Tom Green

Of Water World Series.

 

00:16:01:29 - 00:16:03:20

Ron Zappolo

And that'll live forever.

 

00:16:03:22 - 00:16:11:13

Woody Paige

Tim and I, when I was in New York for a spin, we lived in the same place, and, I really got to know him, and.

 

00:16:11:15 - 00:16:13:06

Ron Zappolo

I thought he was excellent. I thought he.

 

00:16:13:08 - 00:16:17:17

Woody Paige

Really was great, but people really didn't like him very much.

 

00:16:17:19 - 00:16:18:23

Tom Green

There's so many people that I.

 

00:16:18:23 - 00:16:19:05

Ron Zappolo

Thought he was.

 

00:16:19:07 - 00:16:22:20

Tom Green

Especially those who were betting on the BYU Cincinnati game, were fascinated.

 

00:16:22:20 - 00:16:29:26

Ron Zappolo

By the Tim McCarver. I was my fault. I went, and we know it's his fault. He went. Blew by you Colts and Chiefs.

 

00:16:29:26 - 00:16:46:27

Tom Green

All right, let's go to the National Football League. We go to Sunday and the Kansas City Chiefs are going to be back at home. And they're in trouble. And the Indianapolis Colts are trying to establish themselves as one of those surprise top teams in the AFC. This a tremendous match up. The Chiefs are going to be three and a half and run.

 

00:16:47:03 - 00:16:49:01

Tom Green

You seem to have the finger on the pulse.

 

00:16:49:01 - 00:16:55:06

Ron Zappolo

I do have my finger on the pulse of the Chiefs. So I'm going to pass right to Woody on this.

 

00:16:55:08 - 00:17:04:06

Woody Paige

I kept thinking about this game during the other one. Here's the issue. People in Denver do you pull for the Chiefs? Do you become a Chiefs?

 

00:17:04:06 - 00:17:06:14

Ron Zappolo

You pull for the Chiefs.

 

00:17:06:17 - 00:17:07:29

Tom Green

As best you can in Denver.

 

00:17:08:00 - 00:17:27:07

Ron Zappolo

Yeah, yeah. You know something about the Chiefs though. And I thought about it watching the game because I was so convinced they're going to win. They have had such a remarkable run. And every great run comes to an end. And is this it. Are we seen at least the end for a while with the chiefs.

 

00:17:27:11 - 00:17:29:16

Natasha

Dynasty has fallen.

 

00:17:29:19 - 00:17:32:12

Ron Zappolo

Well, we'll call them a dynasty. But what they've done.

 

00:17:32:15 - 00:17:33:26

Natasha

That's what they call themselves.

 

00:17:33:26 - 00:17:38:13

Ron Zappolo

I think maybe they. Maybe we've come to the end of this particular iteration.

 

00:17:38:13 - 00:17:51:09

Tom Green

And this game is very much a similar game, albeit just in Kansas City's. You know, they get a home game, but it's the same game. It's a it's a team trying to prove it's not an eight and two flip. Nobody was banking on.

 

00:17:51:09 - 00:17:55:01

Ron Zappolo

Now Daniel Jones has not had a the last couple weeks have not been great.

 

00:17:55:01 - 00:17:56:03

Tom Green

He's settled down a little bit.

 

00:17:56:03 - 00:18:01:12

Ron Zappolo

He's got a little more you know what. Bo Nix had had a couple of bad games. How would he play the other day. He was great.

 

00:18:01:12 - 00:18:03:21

Tom Green

Who's the best quarterback in this game?

 

00:18:03:24 - 00:18:06:29

Ron Zappolo

I don't think there's too much debate about that.

 

00:18:07:02 - 00:18:09:17

Tom Green

Well, a lot of people, you know said Loosen.

 

00:18:09:19 - 00:18:24:19

Ron Zappolo

Whisper because Patrick Mahomes didn't come in here and play well. But I had this conversation with a friend of mine the other day. He still Patrick Mahomes. I mean, if if we put all the quarterbacks up as free agents, he'd still be the first guy shaking.

 

00:18:24:24 - 00:18:32:18

Woody Paige

With all of those, one score losses. This year. And he's not played like the magic.

 

00:18:32:18 - 00:18:43:23

Ron Zappolo

He's not played well. Yeah. But here's the thing, Woody. Every team in the NFL or in the AFC, let me rephrase that. Doesn't want the Chiefs to sneak into the playoffs.

 

00:18:43:23 - 00:18:45:16

Tom Green

They'd be a title. They want them out January.

 

00:18:45:16 - 00:18:47:00

Woody Paige

Yeah that's why.

 

00:18:47:02 - 00:18:49:02

Tom Green

So what's the pick.

 

00:18:49:05 - 00:18:51:00

Woody Paige

The pickers the Chiefs.

 

00:18:51:02 - 00:18:52:19

Tom Green

You play the three and a half.

 

00:18:52:22 - 00:19:00:05

Ron Zappolo

Yeah yeah I'm going to do it too I'm not going to do it with any kind of confidence like I did last week. But I am going to take the Chiefs.

 

00:19:00:08 - 00:19:01:11

Tom Green

Well that means I.

 

00:19:01:17 - 00:19:01:25

Ron Zappolo

You got to.

 

00:19:01:25 - 00:19:05:02

Tom Green

Take I got to take the Colts because the person.

 

00:19:05:02 - 00:19:07:05

Woody Paige

Who actually knows more about the Chiefs let her do.

 

00:19:07:08 - 00:19:07:25

Tom Green

She was like.

 

00:19:07:25 - 00:19:16:04

Natasha

I say those baby Broncos, they're going they're going to pull it through. Who is the Colts baby Broncos right.

 

00:19:16:06 - 00:19:21:17

Ron Zappolo

You shouldn't be like you should not be rooting for the Colts Natasha. You should be rooting for the Chiefs.

 

00:19:21:18 - 00:19:22:20

Natasha

I'll never do that.

 

00:19:22:23 - 00:19:23:11

Ron Zappolo

Well see.

 

00:19:23:15 - 00:19:23:25

Natasha

That's.

 

00:19:23:27 - 00:19:29:17

Ron Zappolo

You're you're you know vote. You're voting against your own interest.

 

00:19:29:20 - 00:19:32:28

Natasha

In what way. Aside from just making us look good I would.

 

00:19:32:28 - 00:19:34:10

Tom Green

Hope it helps the brand help for.

 

00:19:34:11 - 00:19:49:10

Ron Zappolo

The Broncos. The Broncos are now into the. They have already won the division. They are now looking at bigger prizes which is home field advantage. The top seed and the two teams they're fighting with are the Colts and the Patriots. Except you want those teams to lose.

 

00:19:49:10 - 00:19:54:20

Tom Green

The Patriots are playing the team play. They're playing for Charlotte the rest of the way.

 

00:19:54:21 - 00:20:09:20

Woody Paige

You have to understand as a young lady that what the bigger objective is. You can't look in the moment. You got to look at what the world is all about. I mean, Congress is doing that right now.

 

00:20:09:22 - 00:20:14:06

Ron Zappolo

By the way. Released the Epstein files.

 

00:20:14:09 - 00:20:15:07

Woody Paige

Okay? It's a.

 

00:20:15:14 - 00:20:19:00

Tom Green

Battle. So let's go to Chicago.

 

00:20:19:03 - 00:20:23:03

Ron Zappolo

Mike. Oh, Mike Epstein, I thought you meant Mike.

 

00:20:23:03 - 00:20:24:19

Woody Paige

To the Yankees.

 

00:20:24:21 - 00:20:28:07

Ron Zappolo

Left, left. Left hander, first baseman. Howard. I think.

 

00:20:28:09 - 00:20:28:20

Tom Green

One.

 

00:20:28:20 - 00:20:30:22

Ron Zappolo

Of the few Jewish players.

 

00:20:30:22 - 00:20:31:23

Tom Green

At the time. That's first.

 

00:20:31:23 - 00:20:32:22

Ron Zappolo

Time in the major.

 

00:20:32:22 - 00:20:41:16

Woody Paige

Leagues. I think that he got caught up in what I really I think he got caught up in Moneyball that they got rid of him or got him because of Moneyball.

 

00:20:41:18 - 00:20:43:07

Tom Green

Oh, I think he was done well before.

 

00:20:43:10 - 00:20:44:21

Ron Zappolo

Money was done, before the like.

 

00:20:44:22 - 00:20:47:15

Tom Green

He played in the late 60s, early 70s would have been his head.

 

00:20:47:15 - 00:20:50:05

Ron Zappolo

I thought he was in the 70s. Yeah, yeah, I thought.

 

00:20:50:05 - 00:20:51:15

Tom Green

He played with Reggie in.

 

00:20:51:15 - 00:20:53:22

Ron Zappolo

But what does that got up I shouldn't have brought up yet.

 

00:20:53:22 - 00:20:55:20

Tom Green

So let's go to Chicago.

 

00:20:55:23 - 00:20:56:15

Ron Zappolo

Maybe I should have.

 

00:20:56:17 - 00:20:57:26

Natasha

Oh, that is the big picture.

 

00:20:58:02 - 00:21:07:08

Tom Green

So, here's the question. Pittsburgh. Is Aaron Rodgers healthy? Does it matter? And the bears, they're one of those teams that have a little of that, pixie dust on them.

 

00:21:07:08 - 00:21:08:19

Ron Zappolo

Right. They were an intriguing team.

 

00:21:08:23 - 00:21:18:19

Tom Green

Yeah. So in Chicago, the bears seem to have some magic. I still have a hard time laying three points, because I think it'll probably be one of those ugly, you know, 1.

 

00:21:18:19 - 00:21:22:05

Ron Zappolo

Or 2, even if games. Even if Mason Rudolph is taking the Swan.

 

00:21:22:05 - 00:21:28:09

Woody Paige

Rodgers, has a broken wrist, but it's his left hand. So I think he's going to figure out a way to play.

 

00:21:28:11 - 00:21:32:03

Ron Zappolo

Be good. That hurt. Taking the snap with a broken wrist.

 

00:21:32:05 - 00:21:33:02

Woody Paige

Well yeah. But yeah.

 

00:21:33:04 - 00:21:35:26

Tom Green

Like if you're reading, you know, ayahuasca I was.

 

00:21:35:29 - 00:21:39:20

Natasha

About to say you just don't play.

 

00:21:39:22 - 00:21:43:03

Tom Green

Any thoughts on this one? Because this this will you know, these are the two of the great teams.

 

00:21:43:04 - 00:21:51:21

Woody Paige

Bears are turning out to be a better team than I felt earlier in the season. Yep. And I would take the bears and I.

 

00:21:51:21 - 00:21:52:07

Ron Zappolo

Would two.

 

00:21:52:07 - 00:21:54:19

Woody Paige

I, I think the Steelers are done for.

 

00:21:54:23 - 00:21:57:17

Ron Zappolo

I do too. I like Ben Johnson has done a good job.

 

00:21:57:17 - 00:22:06:01

Tom Green

Steelers are an ugly watch Caleb Williams is not Caleb Williams. He's still make some young quarterback plays. He's fun to watch. He makes some big plays. He can break you.

 

00:22:06:01 - 00:22:10:05

Woody Paige

Steelers still though will probably win the division.

 

00:22:10:07 - 00:22:17:07

Ron Zappolo

The Ravens are right on the heels and the Ravens play him still twice okay so I would I would favor the Ravens.

 

00:22:17:10 - 00:22:37:24

Tom Green

All right. All right. Let's go to our next game here. We get the bucks and the Rams. The bucks continue to play people tough. But the Rams are a wagon out west. Now eight and two. And they'll be six and a half point favorites at home. I like the Buccaneers to cover this number. I think they're going to be close and could win the game.

 

00:22:37:26 - 00:22:42:27

Tom Green

The Rams are winning, but I don't know if they can if they can blow out the bar.

 

00:22:42:27 - 00:22:45:27

Ron Zappolo

The Rams the best team in the NFC.

 

00:22:45:29 - 00:22:51:14

Tom Green

They're in the discussion I don't know if they're quite there I think they they need some improvement.

 

00:22:51:17 - 00:23:12:10

Woody Paige

Yes. I'm putting them as the top team to have a chance to play in the Super Bowl. I would to see and I think that, even though I like the Buccaneers for several weeks, I don't like them much anymore. I think this is a nothing game you're dumping. This is, a burger game.

 

00:23:12:15 - 00:23:15:08

Ron Zappolo

I'm going to go with Tom. I think the Rams are going to win the game.

 

00:23:15:08 - 00:23:16:22

Woody Paige

Well, you that's what I just said.

 

00:23:16:29 - 00:23:20:27

Ron Zappolo

But I think the Rams are going to win the game. But I think the bucks are going to keep it close to.

 

00:23:20:29 - 00:23:22:29

Woody Paige

No okay I don't disagree.

 

00:23:22:29 - 00:23:30:14

Ron Zappolo

Yeah. Because Sam Darnold threw four interceptions against the Rams last week. And they only lost by two.

 

00:23:30:14 - 00:23:32:00

Tom Green

Points Seattle still could have.

 

00:23:32:02 - 00:23:48:29

Ron Zappolo

Up. Yes. So I'm going to say that Baker Mayfield is going to play better than Sam Darnold. He'll keep it close. But the Rams Matthew Stafford if I had a vote which I don't. But if I had a vote on MVP and I was having to make it today, I'd vote for Matthew Stafford. Okay.

 

00:23:48:29 - 00:23:59:13

Woody Paige

So I, I'm willing to pay you this for another another the paycheck. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm taking the Rams to win by 1215 points I think.

 

00:23:59:13 - 00:24:06:27

Tom Green

For for clarity and transparency, we should probably allow the viewers or listeners to know how much we get paid to do this. How big is this bet?

 

00:24:06:27 - 00:24:07:23

Ron Zappolo

Should we tell them?

 

00:24:07:25 - 00:24:14:01

Tom Green

Well, I just I wonder because it's if this kind of money is changing hands, it could be significant to many viewers and listeners.

 

00:24:14:01 - 00:24:21:27

Ron Zappolo

So now I'm going to give them all the money that I've been paid so far. And I'm going to wager it against Woody in this. No, I'm not I'm not going to do that.

 

00:24:21:29 - 00:24:23:28

Woody Paige

Well, why don't we find out what the heck?

 

00:24:23:29 - 00:24:25:06

Ron Zappolo

Why don't we find out?

 

00:24:25:08 - 00:24:26:29

Woody Paige

Here's. I had to go shaded differently.

 

00:24:26:29 - 00:24:32:08

Ron Zappolo

You know, you probably did. Tom and I, I talked to Tom about it. I haven't talked to you about it. We'll talk more.

 

00:24:32:11 - 00:24:40:25

Woody Paige

I always felt like you really don't see they have to do that in sports now because their agents give away all the what the.

 

00:24:40:25 - 00:24:41:14

Tom Green

Yeah. If they.

 

00:24:41:16 - 00:24:47:07

Woody Paige

But my agent has not talk to you. One of your agents. I don't know whether you have a job.

 

00:24:47:09 - 00:24:48:08

Ron Zappolo

I don't have an agent.

 

00:24:48:08 - 00:24:49:18

Woody Paige

You don't want to hear what I'm making.

 

00:24:49:18 - 00:24:53:23

Tom Green

My agent handles my auto insurance. That's my.

 

00:24:53:26 - 00:24:55:05

Woody Paige

All I can tell you is when I.

 

00:24:55:11 - 00:24:56:21

Natasha

Don't bring up auto insurance.

 

00:24:56:21 - 00:24:59:00

Tom Green

Sorry. It's a that's a sensitive subject.

 

00:24:59:01 - 00:25:06:13

Woody Paige

So going back, when I was on ESPN show called pizza, which was a.

 

00:25:06:13 - 00:25:07:01

Tom Green

Hit show.

 

00:25:07:01 - 00:25:09:16

Woody Paige

Car made three times what he did.

 

00:25:09:18 - 00:25:10:11

Tom Green

Did he know that.

 

00:25:10:14 - 00:25:11:20

Ron Zappolo

These ships probably still.

 

00:25:11:21 - 00:25:12:27

Tom Green

Did you let him know that?

 

00:25:12:29 - 00:25:15:27

Woody Paige

I think that's why he was bitter. Yeah. But, I.

 

00:25:15:28 - 00:25:20:29

Tom Green

Although I think I'm pretty good at being bitter. No matter. I don't think he needed to be prodded.

 

00:25:21:00 - 00:25:25:01

Ron Zappolo

Hey, Panthers in 40 niners when they get together.

 

00:25:25:04 - 00:25:30:07

Tom Green

So that's, the Monday night or, the Panthers a shocking 6 in 5 struggles.

 

00:25:30:08 - 00:25:33:07

Woody Paige

You throw out all of the stats and all throw.

 

00:25:33:07 - 00:25:34:07

Ron Zappolo

Everything out with.

 

00:25:34:09 - 00:25:39:07

Tom Green

Your cable remote. Yeah, the Panthers are knocking on the door, though, getting in, but they're going to go to care.

 

00:25:39:11 - 00:25:42:29

Ron Zappolo

I don't care who wins this game. Doesn't matter to me. Do whatever.

 

00:25:43:02 - 00:25:52:13

Woody Paige

Heard back. Hello? Yeah. What do you have? Three, four touchdown passes? Yeah. Box back. I give me that. Well, hey.

 

00:25:52:15 - 00:25:53:17

Ron Zappolo

Bryce Young.

 

00:25:53:20 - 00:25:55:17

Woody Paige

You got to prove it to me.

 

00:25:55:19 - 00:25:58:06

Ron Zappolo

Bryce Young threw for over 400 yards.

 

00:25:58:08 - 00:25:59:25

Woody Paige

They've got to prove it to me.

 

00:25:59:25 - 00:26:07:25

Tom Green

Well these this game. You can see it by their records that it's going to be one of those games that will impact the possibility of postseason play for both teams.

 

00:26:07:25 - 00:26:12:09

Ron Zappolo

Well, the bucks better start winning some games because the Panthers have more or less caught.

 

00:26:12:09 - 00:26:25:01

Tom Green

Up to him. Yeah I obviously I think Kyle Shanahan, Brock Purdy Christian McCaffrey. They've got the weapons and it's you know you look at the way these some of these teams at this point are falling apart. There have been too many.

 

00:26:25:01 - 00:26:26:15

Ron Zappolo

My you're checking my drink.

 

00:26:26:20 - 00:26:27:17

Woody Paige

There's liquor.

 

00:26:27:19 - 00:26:31:10

Ron Zappolo

Of course there is. There's my finger person in there. Are you kidding me?

 

00:26:31:13 - 00:26:40:04

Woody Paige

I'm not sure. I thought he did this show. Just water. What? Why would I reach in that direction? I thought it, that's for the drinking.

 

00:26:40:04 - 00:26:43:23

Ron Zappolo

My drink. We've been friends for a long time, but that's a little over the top.

 

00:26:43:27 - 00:26:47:25

Woody Paige

Yeah, well. Super friendly. Mean I spit it.

 

00:26:47:28 - 00:26:52:16

Ron Zappolo

I used to tell my grandkids. Don't backwash in there.

 

00:26:52:18 - 00:26:56:23

Tom Green

Now you just gave up. So, we have Niners minus seven. I like the Niners.

 

00:26:56:23 - 00:26:59:14

Ron Zappolo

I think I'll take the Niners, but it's a you shrug, I don't.

 

00:26:59:17 - 00:27:03:21

Woody Paige

And Natasha thinks, the Broncos will beat by lead.

 

00:27:03:21 - 00:27:05:16

Ron Zappolo

By their favorite over by. And they'll.

 

00:27:05:17 - 00:27:06:09

Natasha

Be 100%.

 

00:27:06:15 - 00:27:21:09

Tom Green

The Broncos will remain nine and two. Going to the bye week. But what about the big picture. Because we talk about the AFC. The Broncos have ascended now to where I don't think they can catch the Patriots because of the Patriots schedule. So they can be the oh.

 

00:27:21:09 - 00:27:21:25

Woody Paige

Tell me what.

 

00:27:21:26 - 00:27:22:09

Tom Green

The 1 or.

 

00:27:22:09 - 00:27:27:25

Woody Paige

2 is big I'm being totally serious. What are the Patriots got down the stretch.

 

00:27:27:27 - 00:27:32:01

Tom Green

I think they play Atlanta three times now I don't know their schedule but it is.

 

00:27:32:07 - 00:27:45:14

Ron Zappolo

It's sure they have the Bengals this week. They have the Giants next week they have the Dolphins. After that. They're one tough game they have left is the bills. But they have that game at home. Oh the bills are the only.

 

00:27:45:14 - 00:27:51:08

Woody Paige

Really well let's take let's take the Broncos for a second. They've got to play the Chiefs again.

 

00:27:51:08 - 00:27:53:02

Tom Green

They've got all three AFC West teams again.

 

00:27:53:03 - 00:27:56:27

Woody Paige

And the Raiders. And then they've got the commanders who are playing awful right now.

 

00:27:56:27 - 00:28:00:01

Ron Zappolo

Packers may not have Jayden Daniels back.

 

00:28:00:01 - 00:28:02:08

Woody Paige

Yeah and I don't remember who the other one.

 

00:28:02:08 - 00:28:03:06

Tom Green

The Packers they had.

 

00:28:03:12 - 00:28:10:15

Woody Paige

Characters that'll be like I had them I have them going like three winning 3 or 4 down the stretch.

 

00:28:10:15 - 00:28:12:08

Tom Green

Yeah that won't get you the problem.

 

00:28:12:10 - 00:28:13:17

Ron Zappolo

That'll get them number two.

 

00:28:13:19 - 00:28:16:13

Tom Green

It could get you the number two without the Patriots.

 

00:28:16:15 - 00:28:17:24

Ron Zappolo

It's pretty pretty easy.

 

00:28:17:24 - 00:28:23:22

Tom Green

And that's where that that, Colts Chiefs game plays an important role in the Broncos. Yeah, sure. Yeah.

 

00:28:23:22 - 00:28:24:28

Ron Zappolo

Natasha. Natasha.

 

00:28:24:29 - 00:28:33:28

Natasha

Okay. Come on I listen I look at the big picture of we'll just went out and nothing else matters. They'll lose their games. And who cares on me?

 

00:28:34:00 - 00:28:51:20

Tom Green

Because you look from behind like, say, you know, Buffalo could always get on a roll. But the Broncos, one thing they do need to do is beat the number six team. They're the Chargers. They've struggled Sean Payton and the Chargers. Now I know the Chargers are having trouble but they've got to do it. They've got to beat the charge to come.

 

00:28:51:20 - 00:29:08:16

Ron Zappolo

Here I can't take the Chargers all that seriously. When you go down to Jacksonville and get your ass kicked the way that they did I'm not worried about the Chargers I I'm really not. There's something I I know Harbaugh's a good coach but there's just something not right about the Chargers.

 

00:29:08:19 - 00:29:12:07

Woody Paige

Yeah they don't look right. No. And the Buffalo Bills don't look right to me.

 

00:29:12:07 - 00:29:13:02

Ron Zappolo

No they don't.

 

00:29:13:05 - 00:29:19:26

Woody Paige

You know he Chargers and goes for three running touchdowns three passing touchdowns. And I go. They still don't.

 

00:29:20:03 - 00:29:38:29

Ron Zappolo

See no I I agree I there's something missing with them too. That's why I think Denver can if they can just keep winning here dream big because there's nobody on that page there that Denver will look at and say, oh okay, we're in trouble. We match up poorly with.

 

00:29:38:29 - 00:29:52:18

Tom Green

So you mentioned the NFC though and like who the premier team is. What do you said. You think the Rams can come and and be the best team. The most likely team. You think to get to the super Bowl. The Eagles have started to regain their stride a bit, though they.

 

00:29:52:19 - 00:29:54:17

Ron Zappolo

Certainly on the defensive side they have.

 

00:29:54:17 - 00:29:55:09

Tom Green

Yeah.

 

00:29:55:12 - 00:30:10:22

Woody Paige

But but I'd say this and looking at the top six teams the Broncos don't win in either New England or Indianapolis in the playoffs. They never have none.

 

00:30:10:22 - 00:30:11:03

Ron Zappolo

They never.

 

00:30:11:05 - 00:30:12:25

Woody Paige

Go back. Well let's think about it.

 

00:30:13:01 - 00:30:14:05

Tom Green

That is a that is the good.

 

00:30:14:05 - 00:30:14:21

Ron Zappolo

News is.

 

00:30:14:22 - 00:30:24:22

Natasha

Wait can I pause? I know it's a minute away, but just fresh off of beating them in Denver. How do we feel just quick that on us in Casey.

 

00:30:24:25 - 00:30:26:08

Tom Green

That game may not mean anything.

 

00:30:26:08 - 00:30:26:20

Ron Zappolo

I think that.

 

00:30:26:24 - 00:30:32:23

Natasha

I will not I mean it's always going to mean something because it's Chiefs. Broncos do something guys to.

 

00:30:32:25 - 00:30:33:10

Ron Zappolo

Me it'll.

 

00:30:33:11 - 00:30:34:14

Natasha

Mean are they going to win or.

 

00:30:34:14 - 00:30:38:02

Tom Green

Not? The Thursday night games are very difficult for the road team.

 

00:30:38:02 - 00:30:44:06

Ron Zappolo

Christmas night game. It'll only mean something if the Broncos are still in the race for the top seed.

 

00:30:44:11 - 00:30:45:03

Natasha

I don't know if.

 

00:30:45:03 - 00:30:48:05

Ron Zappolo

If they're not, but then it doesn't matter. It won't matter.

 

00:30:48:05 - 00:30:56:22

Tom Green

But but if it doesn't mean much to the Broncos and it's Christmas night and it's a short week, the road team on those Thursday night games as it's the only disadvantage.

 

00:30:56:25 - 00:30:57:14

Ron Zappolo

It won't matter.

 

00:30:57:14 - 00:31:01:11

Tom Green

So it'll it'll be a hard it'll be a yeah a nice Christmas.

 

00:31:01:11 - 00:31:04:10

Ron Zappolo

It'll matter way more to Kansas City and Denver already.

 

00:31:04:12 - 00:31:12:25

Woody Paige

But I, I would say this on the as I did I think the Chiefs if they lose this week they're packing it in.

 

00:31:12:27 - 00:31:15:27

Tom Green

They end up like the Charlestown Chiefs I think they go Newman.

 

00:31:16:02 - 00:31:17:20

Ron Zappolo

Yeah I think they could pack it in.

 

00:31:17:22 - 00:31:30:03

Tom Green

All right. Obviously we've given people some terrific advice. We really have and an opportunity to really, really get out ahead this week or at least maybe dig and dig out from last week.

 

00:31:30:07 - 00:31:36:03

Woody Paige

And I think, we've done such a good job that we should reach out to Rod Smith. Should be.

 

00:31:36:03 - 00:31:37:04

Tom Green

Enough love to have Rob.

 

00:31:37:04 - 00:31:39:01

Woody Paige

And all fame and have him here next week.

 

00:31:39:01 - 00:31:41:19

Ron Zappolo

Best make his picks. Yeah, sure.

 

00:31:41:25 - 00:31:43:23

Tom Green

Right. If you're watching, you're always welcome.

 

00:31:43:24 - 00:31:44:22

Ron Zappolo

Always welcome. Rob.

 

00:31:44:29 - 00:31:58:08

Tom Green

As we talked about, we did a show this week also with John Elway. Also on After the Horn. Totally recommend you get a chance to check that one out if you haven't. We have some fun on our weekend betting additions. Glad you took time to join us.

 

00:31:58:08 - 00:31:58:23

Woody Paige

Did you?

 

00:31:58:26 - 00:32:10:26

Tom Green

Did you know I was just about to. I was just about to say behind Woody. We always have the chalkboard. The fine work of Natasha, her penmanship. It says I don't bless the rains down in Africa. Toto.

 

00:32:10:28 - 00:32:12:27

Ron Zappolo

That's not the way you're supposed to say it.

 

00:32:12:29 - 00:32:14:05

Tom Green

Well, when you read it.

 

00:32:14:08 - 00:32:14:16

Natasha

I think you.

 

00:32:14:16 - 00:32:15:17

Ron Zappolo

Supposed to sing it.

 

00:32:15:19 - 00:32:16:20

Natasha

You can.

 

00:32:16:23 - 00:32:17:04

Woody Paige

Sing.

 

00:32:17:04 - 00:32:17:20

Tom Green

It, Ron.

 

00:32:17:24 - 00:32:20:21

Ron Zappolo

Yeah, yeah, I almost did.

 

00:32:20:21 - 00:32:34:13

Tom Green

But you can always reach us here, at eight at Gorilla Sportsnet. Thanks for joining us. Of course. If we win a game or two, we'll see you here next week or not.